So when are people gonna start talking about Zach Hyman?

[Caroline Says ll]

Yup. Hyman will continue to be a good player but just not a consistent goal scorer. He will be like Josh Anderson in Montreal.

Woah, good hockey player and Josh Anderson have not been words that should be used together in over 3 years.

 

[Fatass]

Woah, good hockey player and Josh Anderson have not been words that should be used together in over 3 years.

Anderson is a heavy body who skates well and forechecks hard. Plus, he scores now and then. Imo Hyman is on that path. It’s an age thing for Hyman. He’s still got legs but his hands are going. Happens to every play as the get older. Some sooner than others.

 

[McFlash97]

Hyman has outperformed the contract and will be 35/36 at the end of it. Don't think Toronto fans should be commenting on a contract in which the Oilers shredded the Leafs on. Hymans contract has been one of the best signings of all time factoring in his impact to the team. Whether he scores 30 in his last year or not Makes no difference at this point.

 

[NotCommitted]

Talking about Hyman like anyone ever expected 50+ goals out of him, or that it was going to be a reasonable expectation going forward after he actually did it seems pretty pointless to me. That's not what they got him for or what he's paid for, he's got a $5.5m caphit.

I also don't buy his shooting percentage dropped 13.5% from his career average because he suddenly got old and completely lost his hands. Sure, he's not getting any younger and with players at his age you never know if they have 1 or 10 more good seasons of hockey left in them, but at 32 I wouldn't expect him to drop off a cliff just quite yet.

Btw. I think hands are actually usually one of the last things to go. I don't remember a player who clearly first lost his hands before his skating etc. went seriously downhill. Not saying those don't exists, but my impression is it's usually the other way around.

 

[Kegs]

Talking about Hyman like anyone ever expected 50+ goals out of him, or that it was going to be a reasonable expectation going forward after he actually did it seems pretty pointless to me. That's not what they got him for or what he's paid for, he's got a $5.5m caphit.

I also don't buy his shooting percentage dropped 13.5% from his career average because he suddenly got old and completely lost his hands. Sure, he's not getting any younger and with players at his age you never know if they have 1 or 10 more good seasons of hockey left in them, but at 32 I wouldn't expect him to drop off a cliff just quite yet.

Btw. I think hands are actually usually one of the last things to go. I don't remember a player who clearly first lost his hands before his skating etc. went seriously downhill. Not saying those don't exists, but my impression is it's usually the other way around.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks he ever had “hands”


He is super fast, gets to goal scoring areas and scores.

I don’t have a single memory of him stick handling through defenders.

 

[Caroline Says ll]

Anderson is a heavy body who skates well and forechecks hard. Plus, he scores now and then. Imo Hyman is on that path. It’s an age thing for Hyman. He’s still got legs but his hands are going. Happens to every play as the get older. Some sooner than others.

Anderson does not play nearly as physical as he should. Hyman actually forechecks and cycles, all Anderson can do is skate fast down the wings and shoot at the goalie right at the chest.

I'm sorry but that comparison is not valid, simply because even if Hyman were to lose his hands - his effort and compete makes him somewhat valuable. Anderson actually statistically kills offence as he has some of the worst vision and awareness on the ice, is incapable of passing and has this reputation as being able to score but can barely score 20.

 

[Fatass]

Anderson does not play nearly as physical as he should. Hyman actually forechecks and cycles, all Anderson can do is skate fast down the wings and shoot at the goalie right at the chest.

I'm sorry but that comparison is not valid, simply because even if Hyman were to lose his hands - his effort and compete makes him somewhat valuable. Anderson actually statistically kills offence as he has some of the worst vision and awareness on the ice, is incapable of passing and has this reputation as being able to score but can barely score 20.

Anderson doesn’t play as physical as he once did. And Hyman will follow the same path. It’s an age related decline in how guys are able to play that all players experience. That doesn’t mean the player still can’t help their club. They just help in different ways and at different levels than when younger.

 

[Three On Zero]

Anderson doesn’t play as physical as he once did. And Hyman will follow the same path. It’s an age related decline in how guys are able to play that all players experience. That doesn’t mean the player still can’t help their club. They just help in different ways and at different levels than when younger.

Hyman likes to play in the dirty area in front of the net. Luckily for him, even as his skill declines he will still be able to be a pest in that area

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Putting this thread on ignore

You're a liar

The back half of that deal was always going to be ugly and was the reason the Leafs let him walk

 

[the_fan]

Sorry if there has been a thread on this already and I missed it…

What’s wrong with Hyman? Last year finished with 54 goals and 77 points, this year in 8 games so far he only has 1 point which is an assist

 

[Dust]

He's been excellent at shooting the puck right at the goalie.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

We’re not even a month in

 

[Maitz]

Well pretty much everyone were surprised by the 50 goals season, probably the best around the net to tip pucks in but I expected a drop in the production this year

 

[Maple Leaf]

8 g

 

[McFlash97]

8 g

 

[Zalos]

Cold streaks are a thing.

 

[MessierII]

He’s gotta be the most snake bit guy in the league right now. He’s getting looks and eventually they will start to go in.

 

[Leafs87]

I guess you have the answer to your thread subject line?

 

[danny90]

He’s gotta be the most snake bit guy in the league right now. He’s getting looks and eventually they will start to go in.

This is how he was when he played for the leafs except they never started going in

 

[syz]

Hyman has 2 problems this year. Yes, he's back to getting robbed by goalies multiple times per game. But the Oilers PP has also fallen off the face of the Earth for some reason, so he's not even getting a chance to have pucks bounce into the net off his ass currently.

 

[The Panther]

He was quite good in the 2021-22 season, but when he really got going amazingly well was the 2022 playoffs. Darryl Sutter told him, 'You're a hell of a hockey player' in the handshake line. He was right.

Amazingly, Hyman got even better in 2022-23.

More amazingly, he then got even better in 2023-24.

At this point, he has so out-performed his contract to date that I personally don't care if he doesn't score for three months. As long as he finds the range before the playoffs, we good.