So when are people gonna start talking about Zach Hyman?

[Breakers]

Seems like he didn't fold like a cheap suit and if anything, held his ground to not do a favour to a team that gave him a shit pick for potential cap relief in the 8th year. So now Hyman's team, in cap trouble, is trying to find ways to save on cap space.

Jeez the hate runs not deep but deranged with you lot with Dubas.

Ahh yes that $400k is the reason for the cap troubles

And by accounts he was asking for a 2nd round pick for said $400k relief for a team not in division or conference.

Great time to grow a backbone
But allow how many players to have 10 figure AAV’s

 

[Moose Head]

He does kind of look like a pumpkin in the orange jersey:

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He signed 4 days after the Leafs couldn't negotiate any deal with him. So it seemed like the entire goal was to sign him and they tried a week and a half or so past the free agency opening up and it looked like he had already made up his mind with Edmonton. So it's odd there's this narrative that he was never in the plans or whatever.


Ah ok, so he didn't take the pick because he didn't want to give the Oilers cap help.

And I agree, why should he have helped them for a piss poor return on it? He's not there to do favours to other GM's.

I mean, I'm not all that mad at that. It's funny if anything that he was like eat shit Edmonton. And wouldn't you know, Hyman's team is in cap trouble.

it is what it is, Edmonton found great value out of him though. surprising how meh hes been so far. for me its on a fantasy level. took him 29th overall and cant believe he hasnt gotten a single point yet

 

[Cup or Bust]

If he was not getting scoring chances it would be something to worry about but Hyman is not playing any different then he did last season. If you have watched the games, the guy has been absolutely stoned so far on numerous times at point blank range. The guy who has really struggled has been Nugent Hopkins. He is the weak link right now on the McDavid line. I never came into the season expecting another 50 goal season out of Hyman, but the pucks will start going in for him, not too worried.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Pat Maroon scored 30 next to McDavid...

He did???

I thought he only scored 27.

He doesn’t compare because he only did it once and followed it up with 14.

Hyman on the other hand scored 27 followed it up with 36 and then 54. Not a by product of McDavid.

 

[Sniper99]

when the time is right to talk about Hyman. Hes fine.

Players have slow starts, this shouldnt be that big of a deal.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I think everyone knew last year was an anomaly. That said, he’s still a good player and he’s playing with a generational player so 30 plus goals should be where he lands.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He did???

I thought he only scored 27.

He doesn’t compare because he only did it once and followed it up with 14.

Hyman on the other hand scored 27 followed it up with 36 and then 54. Not a by product of McDavid.

what was his total before joining Edmonton? I would say 100% he's a product of McDavid. he never put anything remotely close to those numbers to think this is just him improving overtime and nothing to do with McDavid is basically delusional

 

[Oilslick941611]

what was his total before joining Edmonton? I would say 100% he's a product of McDavid. he never put anything remotely close to those numbers to think this is just him improving overtime and nothing to do with McDavid is basically delusional

No. It’s more Hyman is the type of player Edmonton needed. One that the legs never stop moving and gets to the front of the net. Hymans lack of production so far this year is because edmontons shooting percentage is 4 percent. Not because he isn’t doing anything different. Goals will come for him especially once the D can hit the net from the point.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

No. It’s more Hyman is the type of player Edmonton needed. One that the legs never stop moving and gets to the front of the net. Hymans lack of production so far this year is because edmontons shooting percentage is 4 percent. Not because he isn’t doing anything different. Goals will come for him especially once the D can hit the net from the point.

ok cool but doesnt change the fact he's a product of McDavid.
doesnt matter f hes the type of guy they needed his numbers would never have been what they were without McDavid.
he's a good player but he's not a real 50+ goal a year guy. he's more of a 20-30 type player. McDavid inflated his totals

 

[JFedol]

ok cool but doesnt change the fact he's a product of McDavid.
doesnt matter f hes the type of guy they needed his numbers would never have been what they were without McDavid.
he's a good player but he's not a real 50+ goal a year guy. he's more of a 20-30 type player. McDavid inflated his totals

Wasnt that clearly obvious lol?

 

[Marlowe Syn]

When I think of Hyman and his role on Edmonton, I think of Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis back in the "Sid the Kid" era. They were both rock solid players before Sid, but playing with a generational talent is going to boost your offensive numbers. That is just inevitable. Looks the same with Hyman from my pov.
That doesn't mean Hyman isn't a helluva good player. If you are going to hang with the McDavids and Crosbys than you have to have some IQ and hockey chops.

 

[HabsQC]

 

[SomeDude]

He’s playing the Pens tonight. 4 goals at least.

 

[jackjohnson]

I'm not worried about Hyman.

Last season, he scored 70 NHL goals (and had another 4 or 5 called back). So... yeah, that was rather unexpected...

Once the Oilers get their act together, Hyman will start scoring again and he'll be fine. I think he's still ranking rather high in 'expected goals' or whatever, so he's getting his chances as usual. It's just the usual Cup-run-hangover plus having-multiple-babies-at-home problem.

Thats a huge anomally and he did not score 70 goals? Are you counting playoffs too?? Adding in imaginary goals that didnt get approved as a goal
Last year he had a career year and you only have one of those in your career. There is no way he will replicate that as he starts to decline in performance, i would bet my house on it.

 

[Fatass]

Cap Hit: 5.5M

GP: 56
Goals: 40
Assists: 19
Points: 59

Plays hockey the right way. Hard on the puck, no nonsense, not dirty, good on and off ice character.

Best cap value in the NHL possibly.

Was a very good value contract. He plays a style where guys age out rather quick. Maybe he’s there now?

 

[McFlyingV]

Was a very good value contract. He plays a style where guys age out rather quick. Maybe he’s there now?

Guys don't usually age out 4 months after playing great hockey in the cup finals.

 

[The Panther]

Thats a huge anomally and he did not score 70 goals? Are you counting playoffs too??

I thought that was obvious.

Last year he had a career year and you only have one of those in your career.

That's what "career year" means, yep.

There is no way he will replicate that as he starts to decline in performance, i would bet my house on it.

I don't think anyone on earth thought Hyman would replicate last year. What I'm saying is, I'm not worried about the first 7 games. Probably his "expected" goals for an 82-game season is around 30 to 35 or something.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I thought that was obvious.

That's what "career year" means, yep.

I don't think anyone on earth thought Hyman would replicate last year. What I'm saying is, I'm not worried about the first 7 games. Probably his "expected" goals for an 82-game season is around 30 to 35 or something.

Yeah I think that’s fair. Clearly last year was an outlier but he should be a consistent 30 goal scorer for a couple of more years at least.

 

[Fatass]

Guys don't usually age out 4 months after playing great hockey in the cup finals.

Hence the “quick” downward turn. It only takes a slight drop off because of age combined with playing style to see a sharp decline. This is the nhl. Gaps between success a failure are tiny.

 

[Jumptheshark]

when he gets a goal

 

[Sniper99]

Thats a huge anomally and he did not score 70 goals? Are you counting playoffs too??

Pretty obvious.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

He's got a fanboy career. Played with some of the two best players ever after playing for probably the best college to play for.

Still has a good contract for what it's worth, not like he signed a Darnell Nurse-like contract.