So What Happens Monday Morning?

[frightenedinmatenum2]

It's a weird situation because had we just drafted Zadina, we would have gotten the worse player yes, but how different would our situation have been?

Lol come on.

That will be the first domino to set it off.

I didn't do the math before. It's actually Tkachuk and two roster players (JBD+MacEwan) for Lafreniere+Kakko+Lindgren. That should be compliant if they do the math so it might spook the one guy who insisted Lafreniere was better than Tkachuk.

Boucher goes to the Rangers as a nice little side plot, and I'd like to think the Senators get some sort of highly protected 1st but who knows. The spirit realm is murky right now.

 

[Ouroboros]

I think he has to go somewhere that already has a strong veteran presence where he doesn't have to be the guy, at least for now.

He was put in a bad situation from the start in Ottawa. Stone was traded in year 1. We never had a strong veteran core with him. Compare that to Matthew in Calgary. While parts of their core were young, they had a stronger veteran persence.

Can you imagine taking Alfredsson, Philips, Spezza, Neil, Fisher (partly), Kuba, etc off those Sens teams that Karlsson started on and then making him the captain with no real veteran guidance to look to.

I understand why people are disappointed in the entire situation and how this rebuild is clearly failing to materialize as we hoped, but before people attack Tkachuk personally and make assumptions about his quality as a leader or a person, I think they should objectively look at the situation he was developed in as a young star. Also, none of us have any idea about who does what or behaves what way in the room - so a lot of these are assumptions made just based on what body language or actions people see on TV or at the arena on the ice.

For real. The Sens rebuild is/was basically just the NHL version of Lord Of The Flies or something. Just toss a bunch of kids together in a small, isolated shithole and see what happens. So when you end up with a bunch of guys who have no composure, or maturity, or resilience could you have ever really expected anything different?

I've long had a theory that this is why the players bonded so much with DJ Smith. He was all they had, it was literally them against the world. Not only were there no quality veteran players on the ice, but there weren't even any experienced people around the team in the front office. Most teams have advisors, alumni and all sorts of other people around the team you can get some perspective from. In Ottawa it was just Pierre Dorion.

There is no way that anybody around the league thinks this is a Brady Tkachuk problem as opposed to an Ottawa Senators problem. Teams have got to be salivating at the prospect of getting him out of this environment.

 

[HSF]

the whole needing brady to lead and its all his fault is such a pathetic way to excuse others from having responsibilities. Not sure if people expect Brady to carry. the team or something but we need way more from so many other guys making a lot of money

Reminds me of people blaming Alfie or Karlsson when they were one of the few bright spots in some pathetic ass performances from others

Norris 8 mill
Perron 4 mill
Pinto 3.75mill

All need to check themselves and play half as hard as Brady

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

the whole needing brady to lead and its all his fault is such a pathetic way to excuse others from having responsibilities. Not sure if people expect Brady to carry. the team or something but we need way more from so many other guys making a lot of money

Reminds me of people blaming Alfie or Karlsson when they were one of the few bright spots in some pathetic ass performances from others

Norris 8 mill
Perron 4 mill
Pinto 3.75mill

All need to check themselves and play half as hard as Brady

Seriously. Pinto has 3 points in 12 games, he's completely invisible out there. Norris also needs to be better but he's missed a lot of hockey so he's got a bit of an excuse. Perron has 0 points on the year, again completely invisible.

For Pinto and Perron's contracts alone we could add a prime Hoffman type scorer at 7.75 mil and put Ostapchuk or Greig on the 3rd line and Gregor back in the lineup. Insane people want to trade Brady before attempting to do something like that first.

 

[Tuna99]

God hates the Ottawa Senators. Green wants honest assessments, that’s an honest assessment.

since they traded Kyle Turris, this team has been a complete mess and thats the truth.

Kyle Turris was traded November 5, 2017.

TWENTY SEVENTEEN

TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN

THATS THIRTY SEVEN BOYFRIENDS AGO FOR TAYLOR SWIFT.

 

[maclean]

God hates the Ottawa Senators. Green wants honest assessments, that’s an honest assessment.

since they traded Kyle Turris, this team has been a complete mess and thats the truth.

Kyle Turris was traded November 5, 2017.

TWENTY SEVENTEEN

TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN

THATS THIRTY SEVEN BOYFRIENDS AGO FOR TAYLOR SWIFT.

its so crazy how that trade just cursed us forever

 

[Tuna99]

its so crazy how that trade just cursed us forever

EK apparently freaked out, gave it to Dorion for the trade. Then just days later his entire trade talk happened right after with his Nobtrade list leaking,

It’s the curse of Kyle Turris.

November 5, 2017 is the day this thing fell apart

 

[ColinM]

Nothing will happen.

What should happen:

Scratch Kleven, he has lost all confidence and is making catastrophically bad decisions 2 games in a row.

Start Forsberg. Overplaying Ullmark to find his game has not worked. Sit him for a few games and go back to him in the future.

Staois needs to start making phonecalls about Tkachuk and Norris to see what he can get for them to shake up this core. Ideally you get someone to pair with Stutzle/Batherson so they can be more successful at even strength.

Pinto, Greig, Cousins, Perron have been giant f***ing zeroes. Start a rotating scratch of guys like that. I might be missing a few names but the 4 I have is a good start. Call up people from the AHL to fill the 1 or 2 roster spots you create by scratching those guys. Put Ostapchuk in. Find other guys in the AHL who might be deserving of showcasing their ability and talent and willingness to not be a floating liability.

This sounds about right. We are on season 7 or 8 of "dig a hole early you can't climb out of". I don't have a lot of confidence things would be different next season.

EK apparently freaked out, gave it to Dorion for the trade. Then just days later his entire trade talk happened right after with his Nobtrade list leaking,

It’s the curse of Kyle Turris.

November 5, 2017 is the day this thing fell apart

I feel like Melynk is still cursing us after he is dead.