So the Canucks were a product of PDO all this time? Or are they still a legitimate contender?

[crowi]

Playoff team, but definitely not a contender.

 

[PuckG]

You're talking about something else. Playing hurt is one thing (which both clubs did), having a star player on the IR at the most important position, and then pretending it wouldn't make any difference (while complaining about the same position having a big influence on their team), is another. Who isn't applying standards here?

How do you equate three fundamental Oilers playing through injury versus a fundamental Canuck not playing at all? You can’t - you just feel yours is worse to justify your rhetoric.

The point is everyone is sick and tired of hearing the injury excuse and “Canucks win the cup with Demko” rhetoric. Both teams were injured and the better team still won.

If you want to go further back, Klefbom has been on the Oilers IR since 2016. Oh ****ing well. Back to reality…

 

[FerrisRox]

I'm not a Canucks fan. That's why I made a discussion thread

You don't have to be a Canucks fan to know that Thatcher Demko hasn't played a game this season.

I'm not a Canucks fan either. I'm not sure why you think being a Canucks fan is part of the equation.

 

[Siludin]

Lankinen has been good but Demko is a legitimate star player, and missing him probably cost them the first round last year, and has cost at least a couple of games this year.

 

[Zanon]

goaltending is the only reason that series wasnt a sweep. Silov was the canucks best player. skinner was the oilers worst player

Silovs was very average against the Oilers. Oilers fans were trying so hard on here to convince everybody that Silovs wasn’t a third string goalie too. The cope was unreal. They just couldn’t admit the Canucks were playing without a full deck of cards.

The fact remains, Demko was out and that benefited the Oilers.

This season they’ve been treading water so far with of all the injuries they’ve sustained.

 

[Breakers]

I mean with game in hand can’t they technically be tied for 1st in their division

 

[Bobby9]

All the players played to their ceilings for parts of last year. That’s all it was.

They had very good team chemistry and the players were all excelling.

They’re not playing like that this year other than Hughes and maybe Garland

 

[qc14]

Still think they're certainly a playoff team and probably in the second group of contenders.

That being said, I was surprised going into the year how they seemed to have convinced everyone they should automatically be placed in the "good team" bucket. A whole lot of guys had career years, they were very lucky in many different ways (injuries, getting out to early leads, etc.) and they did absolutely nothing in the summer to shore up what is maybe one of the worst groups of 2-6D in the league.

It just feels like a team that is playing to it's ceiling and yet still has very notable holes.

 

[Rowlet]

I'm not a Canucks fan. That's why I made a discussion thread

So you admit to knowing nothing about the Canucks yet you titled the thread "So the Canucks were a product of PDO the whole time?"

You could at least look at the standings before making shit up, they're 2nd in the division in p%.

 

[Hoglander]

How do you equate three fundamental Oilers playing through injury versus a fundamental Canuck not playing at all? You can’t - you just feel yours is worse to justify your rhetoric.

The point is everyone is sick and tired of hearing the injury excuse and “Canucks win the cup with Demko” rhetoric. Both teams were injured and the better team still won.

If you want to go further back, Klefbom has been on the Oilers IR since 2016. Oh ****ing well. Back to reality…

Nonsense. You're being purposely obtuse. Nobody has ever claimed the Canucks would have won the cup with Demko, you're angry and making stuff up.

Ep, Hughes, and Hronek were all playing through stuff too, but that's not what I was talking about, and you know it.

You want to live with your head buried in the sand, and believe that Demko isn't a major upgrade on Silovs... well that's embarrassing, but don't let me stop you.

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

So you admit to knowing nothing about the Canucks yet you titled the thread "So the Canucks were a product of PDO the whole time?"

You could at least look at the standings before making shit up, they're 2nd in the division in p%.

Not being a Canucks fan doesn't mean someone knows nothing about the Canucks lol. Calm down dude

 

[HockeyVirus]

So you admit to knowing nothing about the Canucks yet you titled the thread "So the Canucks were a product of PDO the whole time?"

That's not the thread title.

 

[dustybreaks]

It’s the Rick Tocchet effective.

Have one great season, shit the bed the next, get fired the third.

 

[Rowlet]

That's not the thread title.

It's literally the thread title.

 

[HockeyVirus]

It's literally the thread title.

No, it literally is not. The thread title is 'So the Canucks were a product of PDO all this time? Or are they still a legitimate contender?'

 

[thekernel]

All things equal, I don't see us beating the Jets, Stars, Panthers, or Hurricanes in the playoffs. Any other team in a best of 7 series is winnable. Of course, the key is getting to the playoffs in the first place. We've been doing great weathering the storm of absences (in striking distance of the division lead, basically exact same position at the exact same time as last year) but if Quinn goes down, party's over

 

[Rowlet]

No, it literally is not. The thread title is 'So the Canucks were a product of PDO all this time? Or are they still a legitimate contender?'

It's based on the false premise of the Canucks being a product of PDO. They're playing as good statistically as they were last season, have almost the same amount of points despite a ton of injuries to start the year and the Canucks being PDO merchants was debunked a long time ago.

Asking if they're still a legitimate contender when they're playing better than they did last season despite injuries is just silly when people didn't even think they were a legitimate contender last year. Questioning their status as a contender doesn't change that the premise you built the thread on is factually incorrect.

 

[Regal]

It's based on the false premise of the Canucks being a product of PDO. They're playing as good statistically as they were last season, have almost the same amount of points despite a ton of injuries to start the year and the Canucks being PDO merchants was debunked a long time ago.

Asking if they're still a legitimate contender when they're playing better than they did last season despite injuries is just silly when people didn't even think they were a legitimate contender last year.

They clearly played better last year visually imo and their underlying numbers were also better. Both in expected number and of course actual goal differential. They’ve also had an easy schedule so far. The forwards have been decent but the bottom pairings have been a mess.

Asking about PDO isn’t the right question, I agree, as they were legitimately good last year, but I think it is fair to question how good they are this year.

 

[dirtydanglez]

they are a pretender. don't see them getting past the oilers or vegas to even go out of the division.

 

[PuckG]

Nonsense. You're being purposely obtuse. Nobody has ever claimed the Canucks would have won the cup with Demko, you're angry and making stuff up.

Ep, Hughes, and Hronek were all playing through stuff too, but that's not what I was talking about, and you know it.

You want to live with your head buried in the sand, and believe that Demko isn't a major upgrade on Silovs... well that's embarrassing, but don't let me stop you.

Silovs played quite well that series. Kept the Canucks in the first few games and now doesn't get the credit he deserves from Canucks fans. A few stinkers in games the Canucks were being outplayed in anyways shouldn't discount that.

And why not? We're talking about your hypothetical "what if" world. You don't think a healthy McDavid, Draisaitl and Kane aren't a major upgrade over the versions they were in the playoffs with their respective rib injuries, hernias etc?

You want to live with your head buried in the sand and pretend Demko coming off a serious long-term injury is the same goalie he was pre-injury than you're just as obtuse. Especially so if you evidently can't apply your same standard the other way.

 

[Szechwan]

It’s the Rick Tocchet effective.

Have one great season, shit the bed the next, get fired the third.

They are 4 pts back of Vegas for 1st in the Pacific, with 2 games in hand during an injury riddled start. How is that shitting the bed?

 

[Szechwan]

Silovs played quite well that series. Kept the Canucks in the first few games and now doesn't get the credit he deserves from Canucks fans. A few stinkers in games the Canucks were being outplayed in anyways shouldn't discount that.

And why not? We're talking about your hypothetical "what if" world. You don't think a healthy McDavid, Draisaitl and Kane aren't a major upgrade over the versions they were in the playoffs with their respective rib injuries, hernias etc?

You want to live with your head buried in the sand and pretend Demko coming off a serious long-term injury is the same goalie he was pre-injury than you're just as obtuse. Especially so if you evidently can't apply your same standard the other way.

Only an Oilers fan would argue that a goalie that put up an .898 in the playoffs was the reason for a team's success, most other franchises have higher standards than that.

He had his soft moments and kept them in it at times, but he doesn't bring anything near what Demko does.

 

[Czechboy]

Con's
Didn't like their offseason, especially on D
Demko out
Hronek out

Pro's
This is a very well built team when healthy
Hughes is unreal
Lots of great players

 

[Szechwan]

Con's
Didn't like their offseason, especially on D
Demko out
Hronek out

Pro's
This is a very well built team when healthy
Hughes is unreal
Lots of great players

Why didn't you warn us about Desharnais!!

 

[Czechboy]

Why didn't you warn us about Desharnais!!

I think I did.lol I like him.. everyone likes him but he's not it.