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"I mean, we had our chances, we just couldn't really capitalize. It's more on us, than probably, them"

Post game and post series words from Pietrangelo. As if I can't stand him enough already, he gives comments with not one of them giving any credit to an Oilers team that just demolished him and his band of inbreds.
 
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Drivesaitl said:
While there is a lot of truth to this the Vegas finishing on the other hand was in outerspace. You don't score when you wire pucks wide on scoring chances or stuff pads or logos. Last night Vegas had 5 real shots through the first 30mins. (credited with 7 but two were dumps) for Clarity Skinner only had to make one decent stop in that frame. Vegas then got busy for the only 5mins in the game that they were, in last 5mins of 2nd period. Skinner was required to make some stops, and quality stops at times but there were maybe 2 that were really challenging. One was the Eichel shot that Skinner made the blocker save on.

In my mind the only way to get a handle on what we're seeing is to see what other goalies are doing, or requied to do. For example in first period alone last night Bobroski made 5 highway robbery stops last night. Stupendous stops. Even Woll was quite good for around 25mins keeping the Leafs in the game.

I'm not completely prepared to say Skinner has found his way or anything like that. In playoff hockey you can only be completely structured and shutting down everything if the opponent whimpers and allows it. Sure Skinner was good, sure Vegas the way they are playing wouldn't be scoring on pretty much anybody.

When your top 5 goal scorers get zero goals in a series you ain't beating anybody and you sure ain't scoring much. Our goaltending benefitted from a complete lack of shooter confidence by Vegas. In shortest terms they had nobody going. Nobody feeling it. Barbie on a clear breakaway with time shot into Skinner right pad. Right into pad. Eichel passed off chances from the slot. Doro shot wide or shanked shots. Stone, Saad got injured, Hertl never scored, Eichel never scored, so it went.

On the goalie profile, in general, the Oilers are still limited. Sure if they completely shut the opponent down its airtight. Will every opponent allow that or will some "storm the tower".
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I mean, I don't disagree with you. We played a solid, structured game (that was the context of my post).

I do think you could give Skinner a little more credit though... he's a big structured goalie who maintains good angles in a structured game. He is at least partly to blame for having his crest or his pad where the shot was placed... that's an under appreciated part about goaltending. When you don't give them anything, and don't bite on anything, they have no choice but to shoot at you and it doesn't look like you are doing much.

From personal experience, there are games were I ask "am I giving him top cheese above my shoulder" and a millisecond into that thought I know the answer the hard way... and then there are nights where you don't even have to ask, because you know you have literally everything covered. Skinner had one of the latter last night, and yes, his team made it easier for him to have such a night, but they certainly can and should share credit with him.
 
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iCanada said:
This edition of the Oilers is a straight zombie. You can shoot them in the chest 30 times and they'll still get back up.

Unshakable belief mixed with rock solid depth and elite top end game breaking talent.

This group, particularly given that hockey is a grueling 7 game series, has got to be one of the hardest outs I can ever really recall in sports.
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Zombie Oilers. Interesting my friend. That was my alternate name of thread but I went with Possum Oilers.

Its a good analogy. Just no give up in this lineup. Doesn't matter what score is, even better to kill the enemy dead coming from behind multiple goals and ripping out hearts.
 
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OH god almost forgot

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bucks_oil said:
I mean, I don't disagree with you. We played a solid, structured game (that was the context of my post).

I do think you could give Skinner a little more credit though... he's a big structured goalie who maintains good angles in a structured game. He is at least partly to blame for having his crest or his pad where the shot was placed... that's an under appreciated part about goaltending. When you don't give them anything, and don't bite on anything, they have no choice but to shoot at you and it doesn't look like you are doing much.

From personal experience, there are games were I ask "am I giving him top cheese above my shoulder" and a millisecond into that thought I know the answer the hard way... and then there are nights where you don't even have to ask, because you know you have literally everything covered. Skinner had one of the latter last night, and yes, his team made it easier for him to have such a night, but they certainly can and should share credit with him.
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I give Skinner a bit more credit. haha

I actually did. I've said a few times he's now playing within his limitations. staying in crease, simplifying, less is more. basically when he uses his big frame to just be square to pucks and the Oilers are limiting passes across or stuff from behind and mopping up rebounds he can play a simple game. We agree on that.

We also agree its impossible to do this airtight a game against any opponent. if it were, NHL would be easy.

My take is the Oilers knocked out Vegas in game one. They were really staggered, the way they lost. its a game they couldn't lose, but they did, at home.

For the Oilers that game was more confidence and bravado, as in you can't do anything to us. For the Knights it was death. Then Drai scoring the winner in OT game 2? play taps. Its over.

The last couple games are a bit of an illusion because Vegas top core had already stopped believing. They only won game 3 becasue of Karlsson and Smith and Roy. The only guys scoring. The top 5 Vegas goal scorers were knocked right out. Already dead.

Where I don't agree with you is that Barbie on a home free breakaway shot right into right pad because nothing was given. He did that because he's fatally snakebit. Similarly Eichel doesn't pass off from the slot several times in the series because nothing is there. He does that because Vegas over pass the puck.

Similarly Hertl, Saad, Doro, others weren't going to score anytime soon. Just a bunch of pad and logo stuffing shots.
 
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Oilslick941611 said:
* any reference to you is meant in the general specific way and not directed towards you in anyway.

This the stupidest thing people did around here. I've got to a point where all those people are on my ignore list because f*** them., but its awfully quiet around here because of it.

The team plays well, they win, its that simple. Over. Done. When the team buys in, they are the best team in the league.

Im sitting here laughing at the overly dramatic posters posting "thats the series" after game 3. Have some f***ing faith. This team has been to the last 3 of 4 WCF, the SCF last year and lost to the Stanley cup champions the last 3 years and yet people here are so quick to write them off at every opportunity. Are they really fans? I mean you have to question that at some point. Im sure some are trolls, others have some humiliation kink or what not, but almost universally all them have no faith in the team.

SKinner was fighthing for his career these last 2 games. Kudo to him to stepping up, if being optimisitic and wanting to see to the team succeed makes me his uncle, than fine, but f*** you for suggesting it. I certainly didn't expect a shut out in game 4, let alone a second one last night. I was literally thinking his career was over after game 3 even though that goal wasn't soley his fault.
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Agree... there was way too much negativity around here toward the end of the year. Especially when the topic of team health or goaltending came up. I was lambasted for saying, "maybe it's not as bad as it looks"... and sure enough McDavid said almost the same thing a few days later.

Lo and behold we have a healthy Kane. A healthy McD. A reasonably healthy Frederic. A Klingberg rounding into form. A concussed goalie who got a lot of rest and appears to have pulled his cloudy head out of his butt.

A lot has gone right so far, but I think part of that is that this team MANAGED itself to be READY for the playoff grind. And that's why things looked so dire at the end of the season.

Reminder as well that our depth carried us through that period reasonably damn well, but it still wasn't enough to keep people from spiraling.

We've obviously still got a ways to go (halfway baby!), but enjoy the win everybody... sounds like all our guys will have a few days to recover.
 
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Paralyzer said:
Who says he isn't back? I mean, usually it'd be Chris Cuthbert and Craig Simpson, but maybe Rogers has changed?
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There is a pecking order, and Cuthbert and Simpson will get the top billing. Apparently if the Jets had lost against the Blues we would have gotten the duo that are calling their games against the Stars.
 
bellagiobob said:
There is a pecking order, and Cuthbert and Simpson will get the top billing. Apparently if the Jets had lost against the Blues we would have gotten the duo that are calling their games against the Stars.
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Simpson describes the play as if he's doing radio and you can't see what's going on. He's supposed to "enhance" the viewing experience, not give a blow by blow of the obvious.
 
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Stoneman89 said:
"I mean, we had our chances, we just couldn't really capitalize. It's more on us, than probably, them"

Post game and post series words from Pietrangelo. As if I can't stand him enough already, he gives comments with not one of them giving any credit to an Oilers team that just demolished him and his band of inbreds.
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yeah I hate that he seems like an arrogant asshole, they got outplayed badly most of the series.
 
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Drivesaitl said:
Zombie Oilers. Interesting my friend. That was my alternate name of thread but I went with Possum Oilers.

Its a good analogy. Just no give up in this lineup. Doesn't matter what score is, even better to kill the enemy dead coming from behind multiple goals and ripping out hearts.
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Meh, the Oilers were okay, is all. Vegas just gave up with no compete. A speedbump. :laugh:;)🍌
 
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