Confirmed Signing with Link: [SJS] Mikkel Boedker (4 years, $4M AAV)

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Huge steal. Can easily score 60-70 points with SJ.

True, but people have been saying that forever, he could easily be in the AHL by year 3. Probably why the money is so low. Though I'd be excited as a Sharks fan, looked like a different player in Colorado.
 

Limekiller

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Regardless of if he's on Thornton's, Couture's, or Hertl's wing, he's not going to be the guy expected to drive possession. Also, on any line he would be on he wouldn't be the guy expected to do the heavy lifting, as we've already got top notch players that do that. (Thornton, Pavelski, Couture, Donskoi, Hertl, etc.) He will purely be a complementary piece here. I think he will do just fine with the reduced responsibilities and weaker comp he'll face than he did in either AZ or CO.

Plus, our 2nd PP unit is looking pretty damn scary: Boedker, Hertl, Donskoi, Schlemko and one of Vlasic/Meier/Goldobin/Ward. That's a #1PP unit for a lot of teams.
 

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I'm expecting him to play on a 2nd line with Marleau and Couture, I think that'd be a good spot for him to give that line some size that it didn't have before without sacrificing speed.
 

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I'm expecting him to play on a 2nd line with Marleau and Couture, I think that'd be a good spot for him to give that line some size that it didn't have before without sacrificing speed.

I think Boedker - Couture - Donskoi and Marleau - Hertl - Ward/Goldobin/Meier are a lot more likely. (or put Marleau with Couture and Boedker with Hertl, either works) I really really doubt they split up Couture and Donskoi after how good they were together, especially in the playoffs.
 

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Now this is a steal. He's still young and has put in good numbers and being on SJ will definitely boost that.
 

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Boedker, Good hands, High end skills...

Always reminded me of a roller hockey player though... float around waiting for someone to do the work to chip the puck out, then skate really fast into the o-zone... then... lose the puck when a defenseman engaged him...

He definitely has skills and speed, not sure what else... but he didnt bust the budget on this deal so...

All in all... Sharks made some good moves today... Shlemko is gonna end up a steal.
 

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I really wish the Avs had been able to work out this deal with Boeds. I was ok with around 5mil per year, 4mil for 4 years is getting an absolute bargain deal. A consistent 50 point winger that is still on the right side of 30 would help any team.

Shame we wasted assets on him and then didn't keep him or even land Rads.
 

GKJ

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I really wish the Avs had been able to work out this deal with Boeds. I was ok with around 5mil per year, 4mil for 4 years is getting an absolute bargain deal. A consistent 50 point winger that is still on the right side of 30 would help any team.

Shame we wasted assets on him and then didn't keep him or even land Rads.

He's done that twice and has never scored 20 goals.

I don't get why people are so enamored with Boedker, he's someone who is like Maxim Afinogenov who looks the part so everyone assumes he's an excellent player and then you look at the numbers can't believe they aren't better. He's a power play pumper and not very good 5v5. Specialists aren't worth that kind of term and money.
 

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10 points costs a million dollars folks, his is a fair deal

We'll just have to see how good the fit is
 

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He's done that twice and has never scored 20 goals.

I don't get why people are so enamored with Boedker, he's someone who is like Maxim Afinogenov who looks the part so everyone assumes he's an excellent player and then you look at the numbers can't believe they aren't better. He's a power play pumper and not very good 5v5. Specialists aren't worth that kind of term and money.

He's a power play pumper but since the 2012 lockout season started, he's gotten 56 power play points out of his total 156 points. That's not a terrible reliance on the power play to produce. Calling him a specialist is not really a fair statement. A top line player? Sure he's not that with that kind of production relative to his ice time in Arizona but it'll likely be a different situation in San Jose.
 

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10 points costs a million dollars folks, his is a fair deal

We'll just have to see how good the fit is

Wow...that's something I even just said today on our team board. But it's true.

Then if a guy adds good defense, PK's, is physical, etc... too, he is even more valuable. Boedker doesn't do any of those, but will still get over 40 points.
 

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He's done that twice and has never scored 20 goals.

I don't get why people are so enamored with Boedker, he's someone who is like Maxim Afinogenov who looks the part so everyone assumes he's an excellent player and then you look at the numbers can't believe they aren't better. He's a power play pumper and not very good 5v5. Specialists aren't worth that kind of term and money.

Over the past 4 seasons he's averaged exactly 50 points and it's not like he has some outlier season to skew the stats, so calling him a consistent 50 point player isn't a big stretch.

People are enamored by him because he's relatively young and is an offensive winger capable of providing at a higher secondary scoring pace or even filling in a hole on the top line during injuries.

He won't lead anyone's offense which is why he suffered in Arizona (and later in Colorado when Duchy and MacK went down), but as someone not relied on to be the offensive powerhouse he thrives. He's a good team player based on comments during the season and he's got some speed to burn on the ice making him ideal for the new NHL where its all about skating and plays on the rush.

What isn't there to like at around 4mil per season? If he wasn't so streaky he'd be a 6mil player.
 

Captain Timo

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True, but people have been saying that forever, he could easily be in the AHL by year 3. Probably why the money is so low. Though I'd be excited as a Sharks fan, looked like a different player in Colorado.

Boedker is not an AHL player, what are you smoking? He's been an NHLer with no doubts for his entire career, now all of a sudden he's a tweener and potential AHLer in three years? Good lord.
 

CrypTic

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He's excruciatingly inconsistent and should ONLY be relied on for secondary scoring in a supporting offense role. His contract pretty well matches that.

I expected to see some team drastically overpay, and then I figured I'd be in that thread explaining how he's overrated, inconsistent, and soft as butter.

But, this isn't much of an overpay, at all really. It's pretty much about what he's worth, but with a little UFA bump.

Would I take him back on the Coyotes for 4x4? Mmmm...hard to say. Switch either one of those 4s to a 3, and I'd say definitely yes.

Yesterday I didn't want Boedeker but I thought he'd get more too. Now I'm cautiously optimistic. I thought he looked pretty good on the Avs, though I didn't see many games. His possession stats worry me but he's been pretty consistently on a ~50 point pace. I think that's good for the money and term, given that it's the 1st day of FA. His role on the Sharks should be as a 2ndary scorer/complementary player so it sounds like it could be a good fit.

As others have said, he might work well on the 2nd line with Couture and Donskoi or on the 3rd with Marleau or Hertl. I'm not worried about possession if he plays with Thornton, Couture, or Hertl. They're all very good possession wise. It sounds like he could be a good 3rd liner (with, e.g., Marleau and Ward or Hertl and Marleau). If he is, it will be a win IMO. He might improve with different linemates which would be an even bigger win. our PP2 needs help and I think he'd be a good fit there.

There's obviously a risk that he won't click with any of the lines and that his production falls off but that seems somewhat unlikely and, at $4M, the Sharks could probably trade him at a small loss. Overall, I think he's probably an upgrade on Karlsson, Nieto, or Wingels so I'm glad about the signing.
 

Captain Timo

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He's not that good, but he's more than worth 4 million on a UFA deal

Exactly my thoughts. For a secondary scorer who has consistently been on a ~50 point pace in Arizona the past four seasons, 4x4 is pretty cheap. I wasn't dying for DW to go after him, but I'm more than fine, and actually quite happy getting him on that contract.
 

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