Confirmed Signing with Link: [SJS] Mikkel Boedker (4 years, $4M AAV)

[Limekiller]

He'll have better talent around him in San Jose, but it's not like he played with nobody here either. Boedker usually played with Vermette who has been a solid contributor every season except last. Vermette's play rocketed right back up to his normal levels too last year once Boedker was moved.

And for the shooting percentage, it's not a regression to the mean issue. He absolutely goes into a crazy funk almost every single year. You can't just add 5 goals to that because it always happens.

3 more years:

We've had Marleau here for almost 20 years. Streaky scorers are kind of our thing.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

I think that this might be the best signing of the day if we take years/dollars into account.

 

[Captain Timo]

He did match a career best in points (51), but every other season he's been a ~30 point player. He shouldn't get that much, unless he makes an impact elsewhere.

He's been a ~50 point player more than he has a ~30 point player. Two seasons he played 48 (lockout) and 45 games (injury) and put up 26 and 28 points respectively. Those are 48 and 47 point paces, respectively.

 

[Machinehead]

Simply bad at ice hockey. Don't get the appeal.

 

[Virtanen2Horvat]

Benning should have been on that if he really wants to compete. Good deal.

 

[Limekiller]

Simply bad at ice hockey. Don't get the appeal.

Why not wait and see how he does on a team where he is a purely complementary piece, and not "The Guy"? he doesn't have to handle ANY of the heavy lifting here he had to do in AZ or CO, since we have Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, etc. to do that. I think that lessening of responsibility (plus a lot less time having to play against top comp) will make a big difference for him.

 

[Machinehead]

Why not wait and see how he does on a team where he is a purely complementary piece, and not "The Guy"? he doesn't have to handle ANY of the heavy lifting here he had to do in AZ or CO, since we have Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, etc. to do that. I think that lessening of responsibility (plus a lot less time having to play against top comp) will make a big difference for him.

Hopefully it'll help him do something above a 4th line level at even strength.

 

[mouser]

After some of the brain damaged term/AAV deals handed out today, this one is fair value.

 

[XX]

Why not wait and see how he does on a team where he is a purely complementary piece, and not "The Guy"? he doesn't have to handle ANY of the heavy lifting here he had to do in AZ or CO, since we have Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, etc. to do that. I think that lessening of responsibility (plus a lot less time having to play against top comp) will make a big difference for him.

I don't get why all the blame is placed on "Arizona is a bad team." Boedker has been tried in every role and was most useful as a 3rd line streaky winger. He's simply not a top 6 player you want to count on. If anything, he should have stood out on a bad Arizona team. Instead, he shriveled up in a contract year and was a big part of the team being bad. Domi and Duclair outplayed him.

 

[Alberta Yote]

Inconsistent yes but you could always see the potential. I might be one of the few Coyote fans that want to see him actually finally get it together. He was never going to do it in Arizona.

 

[robes1]

Good for SJ, the Pens should of grabbed him.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't get why all the blame is placed on "Arizona is a bad team." Boedker has been tried in every role and was most useful as a 3rd line streaky winger. He's simply not a top 6 player you want to count on. If anything, he should have stood out on a bad Arizona team. Instead, he shriveled up in a contract year and was a big part of the team being bad. Domi and Duclair outplayed him.

It'll depend on who his linemates are going to be. If he's going to be on the wings of the Joes, possession numbers aren't going to be a problem. If they move Hertl back to 3C and put Boedker with him, Hertl's good at driving possession and will be a mismatch against practically any 3rd line in the league. If he's playing with Marleau, possession probably won't be great but they should be solid defensively and play a pretty good transition game. I don't expect his production to go up any but if he is able to bring in 50 points a year, that's fine regardless of whether it's streaky.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Hopefully it'll help him do something above a 4th line level at even strength.

OH NOES! His advanced stats are bad! I haven't watched him and I just saw his hero chart but his advanced stats are bad! What a bad signing!

I'm optimistic. If it turns our 2nd PP unit into a lethal one it is a win.

 

[do0glas]

I don't get why all the blame is placed on "Arizona is a bad team." Boedker has been tried in every role and was most useful as a 3rd line streaky winger. He's simply not a top 6 player you want to count on. If anything, he should have stood out on a bad Arizona team. Instead, he shriveled up in a contract year and was a big part of the team being bad. Domi and Duclair outplayed him.

Boedker was Arizonas top scorer 5v5 13/14. Only played 45 games but was on pace to lead them again 5v5 in 14/15.

 

[Alwalys]

He'll have better talent around him in San Jose, but it's not like he played with nobody here either. Boedker usually played with Vermette who has been a solid contributor every season except last. Vermette's play rocketed right back up to his normal levels too last year once Boedker was moved.

And for the shooting percentage, it's not a regression to the mean issue. He absolutely goes into a crazy funk almost every single year. You can't just add 5 goals to that because it always happens.

Luckily we have a guy who can feed him slam dunks to get him going.

 

[bleuetbio]

I came here to write that he's the steal but reading you guys, it seems he's nothing more than a vomit bag.

Im pretty surprise

 

[Machinehead]

OH NOES! His advanced stats are bad! I haven't watched him and I just saw his hero chart but his advanced stats are bad! What a bad signing!

I'm optimistic.

I know everyone likes to make fun of the HERO charts, but shouldn't production be higher than between "4th line" and "3rd line" on the chart for 4 million dollars?

The charts aren't made up, they're based on you know, actual production.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

I really like this signing.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

I know everyone likes to make fun of the HERO charts, but shouldn't production be higher than between "4th line" and "3rd line" on the chart for 4 million dollars?

The charts aren't made up, they're based on you know, actual production.

I use hero charts all the time.

What you''re doing is using a chart to replace viewings. You can't come to a conclusion based on that.

That's what I'm saying.

If he puts up 40+ points this is a great contract.

 

[BHD]

Good for SJ, the Pens should of grabbed him.

The Pens don't have the room.

 

[XX]

What you''re doing is using a chart to replace viewings. You can't come to a conclusion based on that.

I assure you the viewings were a lot more depressing than the charts, especially last year. DeBoer + Jumbo should get him going, or nothing will.

 

[Machinehead]

I use hero charts all the time.

What you''re doing is using a chart to replace viewings. You can't come to a conclusion based on that.

That's what I'm saying.

If he puts up 40+ points this is a great contract.

He might because he's unbelievable on the powerplay. Nobody will deny that. But you have to put up with him being a traffic cone at even strength. Not worth 4 million for me, but if you think a PP specialist is what the Sharks are looking for, then may the force be with you.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

I assure you the viewings were a lot more depressing than the charts, especially last year. DeBoer + Jumbo should get him going, or nothing will.

I'll see for myself, thank you very much. I understand if you have ill will towards Boedker because he couldn't be "The Guy". I understand that this probably tainted your viewing of him as a whole.

He will be a 2nd/3rd line complimentary piece in San Jose.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

He might because he's unbelievable on the powerplay. Nobody will deny that. But you have to put up with him being a traffic cone at even strength. Not worth 4 million for me, but if you think a PP specialist is what the Sharks are looking for, then may the force be with you.

If he puts up 40 points period it is a great deal. He can be sheltered at even strength so he doesn't have to do the heavy lifting away from the puck.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I assure you the viewings were a lot more depressing than the charts, especially last year. DeBoer + Jumbo should get him going, or nothing will.

If his 50 point pace seasons are him not going, it'll be interesting to see if he gets going. I mean, I get that some guys play worse than their points suggest but at the end of the day, those points are what wins games and makes you money.