Confirmed Trade: [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations
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Not surprising that Detroit moved him. He was being propped up pretty heavily by Seider when they were paired together, which is why when he played away from Seider, Seider's numbers didn't change but Walman's got worse. Good offensive D-man...but realistically a 4-5-6 defenseman on a playoff team and that might even be a stretch because his value is as a PP shooter and most playoff teams don't need that.
On top of that, if Albert Johansson makes the team, he comes much cheaper for similar offensive upside and much more solid defensive work. That and Edvinsson will most likely make the team out of camp, and he has much higher offensive upside than Walman. So Walman would eventually lose his place on the team and that would mean his value is much less to Detroit. It's kind of a freebie 2nd rounder, with the earlier trade, so it's not really a huge asset issue since Yzerman upgraded the forward prospect pool with a surplus defensive prospect.
On top of that, if Albert Johansson makes the team, he comes much cheaper for similar offensive upside and much more solid defensive work. That and Edvinsson will most likely make the team out of camp, and he has much higher offensive upside than Walman. So Walman would eventually lose his place on the team and that would mean his value is much less to Detroit. It's kind of a freebie 2nd rounder, with the earlier trade, so it's not really a huge asset issue since Yzerman upgraded the forward prospect pool with a surplus defensive prospect.
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Dumping him for futures you can see being a result of him lipping the wrong person but having to add a second suggests and even more egregious sin.
What was Deangelo dealt for?
What was Deangelo dealt for?
deca guard
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now explain the reason for giving away a 2nd to move a guy thats a 4-5-6 dman ? nobodys shocked he was moved , the shock is about why it cost a second for a player that should have brought back a 2nd . a player on a good contract thats a strong power skater who doesnt get pushed around that also has a wicked shot . the guys a legit #4/#5 dman
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to even this up sjs claims holl of waivers then at draft flip detroit the 14th for detroits 15th
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Weird trade, I've always liked Walman.
At least it's a late 2nd?
He was pretty bad last season but I'm still surprised we had to pay to dump him.
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He is a great skater, has a cannon of a shot, his D is below avg but he has value. This still doesn't make sense lol maybe they trade the wings Zetterlund for cheap now? idk.... stupid af
Have you ever seen future considerations like that? The 14th to 15th swap would happen without future considerations. This just reads like someone not wanting to accept the reality that the future considerations are going to amount to nothing.
I’m so confused… is it supposed to be for Justil Holl, or a 2nd going to the Wings? What in the world…
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sends a message to team for sure to lower to middle of pack guys on team, if u aint performin, u gone
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Surely they could have put him through waivers to see if anyone would take him for free right?
The salary. Almost 3.5M of cap hit. It's what would have prevented him from being claimed on waivers. If he was a top 4 dman that just needed to be moved on, Yzerman would have made a hockey trade or waived him and someone would have claimed him. But it's clear, from the trade, that the GM's that Yzerman spoke to didn't think he was worth the cap hit for what he brings. And so in order to get him off the cap, he moved Gibson for a F prospect and a 2nd, and then sent the 2nd with Walman.
Not difficult to extrapolate. You just have to see Walman for who he has been except for the time he was paired with Seider.
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Is he good? Barely seen him play.
Last season he had 9 goals and 9 assists in 63 games played.
This season he had 12 goals and 9 assists in 63 games played.
Isn't he a defensive D? Does he have a great shot or something?
Also kinda weird that he played 63 games each in the last two seasons and he had a total of 9 assist in each seasons.
Last season he had 9 goals and 9 assists in 63 games played.
This season he had 12 goals and 9 assists in 63 games played.
Isn't he a defensive D? Does he have a great shot or something?
Also kinda weird that he played 63 games each in the last two seasons and he had a total of 9 assist in each seasons.
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Isn't he a very solid, defensively sound, top 4 defender? Making 3.5?
Even if the Wings are cooking something up and needed to clear him out, there wasn't a single team willing to take him on without needing a sweetner?
This is very odd to me.
Even if the Wings are cooking something up and needed to clear him out, there wasn't a single team willing to take him on without needing a sweetner?
This is very odd to me.
Vancouver would like Dylan Larkin and a first, please.
We will give you nothing in return.
We will give you nothing in return.
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Yes. The idiot who did the gritty in meaningless games. Danced his way off the team
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He's not that solid or defensively sound IMO. He's a dime a dozen bottom pair guy if you ask me. Seems NHL GMs agree. Detroit allowed the sixth most goals in the league this year and I wonder if a guy like Walman playing 20 minutes a night is one reason why.
My suspicion, SJ will take on some player/salary from Detroit..either someone Detoit waives, or, as part of a trade...that'll be the "future considerations"
Ie, Detroit waives Holl and he is claimed by SJ or Detroit trades for goalie X and Husso goes to SJ in some 3-way deal
Ie, Detroit waives Holl and he is claimed by SJ or Detroit trades for goalie X and Husso goes to SJ in some 3-way deal
There is no futures going anywhere. This was probably the only cap dump possible to do with the Detroit defense and Mike Grier made sure he got payed.
I didn’t realize this was such a big deal for so many people.
