The Bruins made the finals with a D-core that had three guys under 5'10" (Krug, Grzelcyk, Clifton) playing regular minutes. Sure size is good if they also have skill, but having a few guys around 6'0" won't sink a D-core.
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Arzak
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It's not about the size of the D, it's about the size of the fight in the D.
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I hope we finally play Liljegren. he's NHL ready and has been for a while. if hes just going to rot in the minors trade him or something
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Fun Fact unless you have play against them.
Vegas Golden Knights only have 1 player on the their entire roster that is < 6 feet and that is Jonathan Marchessault.
So its not only Leafs D that would need to get bigger to handle a team like this but their forwards as well.
Vegas Golden Knights only have 1 player on the their entire roster that is < 6 feet and that is Jonathan Marchessault.
So its not only Leafs D that would need to get bigger to handle a team like this but their forwards as well.
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This, I want a bigger team too but you can be 6'5 and soft as butter vs a 5'10 player whos tough as nails.
Look at the biggest forwards we had im recent seasons, Engvall and Gauthier, gentle giants. They don't show the tenacity or net drive like a Marchand, Gallagher, etc.
It was a different time of course, but one of the toughest Leafs ever with skill was listed at 5'11 197...Wendel Clark
You just gotta find the guys who aren't scared to go to the dirty areas and pay the price to get those playoff goals either by screening the goalie or banging in the the rebound, perimeter play does not work in the playoffs.
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Montreal scored 10 goals in regulation against us in 7 games (Not counting empty net goals)
You need better???
Yes what counts is a guys innate strength, his ability to scrap for pucks and his speed .. if you get those attributes and size then perfect you got da ideal dman for pro hockey .. Petro, Hamilton, Hedman come to mind right away .. Muzzy is best we got and i would put him in 2nd tier .. that said every team needs a Brodie type too .. it is all about RIGHT mix of pairs .. Brodie and Muzzy is fine for a solid top 4 pair .. Rielly lacks innate strength and fight for puck .. Sandin lacks foot speed .. Bogo lacks foot speed .. Holl is ok for 3rd pair/7th guy .. Dermy is a bit small but he still has a chance to develop on 3rd pair with Holl .. add Hamilton would help a lot .. but he want to get PAID so Canes are gonna pass
I'm not sure you've seen enough of Hamilton if you think that. Hamilton is far from the best skater definitely not known for his speed, and well not the most determined player in his own end to win puck battles there. He is elite offensively though, but not the player we need.
I agree we lost that series because we couldn't score. We do absolutely need defencemen that will make it harder and wear on the other teams forwards though, and not even stars. Literally every team left has multiple guys like that. Chiarot, Weber, Edmundson, Cernak, Savard, Schenn, Pelech, Pulock, Mayfield, McNabb, Hague, Holden, Whitecloud. It's pretty much indisputable that in the playoffs when the whistles get put away those are the guys that can make a huge difference. The results speak for themselves.
I was thinking of him way back when with Mississauga Reps .. I have not seen enough of him since he left G except here and there with Canes
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I honestly really like our Defense this year.
I hope we bring Bogo back and roll with the same thing next year.
Sandin has got to work on his foot speed though. You cant be small, weak and slow in this league.
I hope we bring Bogo back and roll with the same thing next year.
Sandin has got to work on his foot speed though. You cant be small, weak and slow in this league.
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Games 1-4: 4 goals in regulation
Games 5-7: 8 goals in regulation
Game 5 is when MTL started crashing the net and you can see the result, the d could not handle it all you have to do is watch the game. It's pretty clear. Btw, they scored 12 goals in regulation in 7 games and this is a team that struggles to create offense.
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The Iceman
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They struggle to score because of their big stay at home D that chips it out.
And one empty net goal amoung the 12.
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League wide problem. The playoffs are officiated different than a regular game benefiting the bigger teams.
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Assuming the Hart goes to McDavid (Matthews even)
The last 6 Hart Trophy winners were out of the playoffs 1st round.
Stat of the day
Assuming the Hart goes to McDavid (Matthews even)
The last 6 Hart Trophy winners were out of the playoffs 1st round.
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Arzak
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It's not about officiating as much as Hart regularly going to a team that sucks(but is carried by one star). Marchand can have 200 points or Pasta 100 goals and you'll hear about Bergeron while Hall in NJ needs 92 points to get it.
Not disputing bigger team getting an advantage due to officiating in playoffs, IMHO not the main factor here.
Btw: somehow Kucherov and Tampa dispute both
. Hardly small team, or sucking one. Yet they manage to lose in the first round following Kucherov's Hart.Overall size is fair. The issue is overall they are too soft. Muzzin and Bogo use their size but aren’t feared. Holl is 6’4” bounty soft while Brodie is amazing with his stick he doesn’t take the body often. None of these guys have a mean streak in them.
As for having small puck moving d in the pipeline that’s the way the game is moving. Faster more mobile. This team is designed to transition with speed and you can’t do that with guys who can’t make a first pass.
From an asset point of view draft best skill players. They tend to have more upside and hold better trade value
As for having small puck moving d in the pipeline that’s the way the game is moving. Faster more mobile. This team is designed to transition with speed and you can’t do that with guys who can’t make a first pass.
From an asset point of view draft best skill players. They tend to have more upside and hold better trade value
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That's a dubious assertion. From what we've seen, if the Leafs have a skill guy, they won't want to take the perceived discount on the talent exchange to get something to fill a bigger need. We saw this with the various rumours with Carolina over the years where a forward for defense scenario seemed to be brewing. If the skill guy isn't breaking through on the roster, they carry no trade value.
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Hamilton is big, but he has zero fight in him.
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It's not size - its toughness. I didn't see that out of the Leafs D-Core. Make the other team regret coming near out net.
Honestly, Dermott is probably our feistiest defender...
Honestly, Dermott is probably our feistiest defender...
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LOL This reminds of high school football way back when. I am all of 5' 7" but solid and was a nose tackle. Coach listed me as 5'11" and when they announced the players and I ran onto the field people were like, whaaaat? lmao we had a real chuckle in the huddle.
