Silayev, Lindstrom, Catton, Iginla, Parekh, Eiserman

[Garbageyuk]

In the grand scheme of things, Halak may have been enough to accomplish the same as Price, and you draft a forward. I'm still pissed at last year's draft, but I'm sure they will do the right thing this year.

You’re going to get shit for this, but if the team had picked Kopitar instead of Price, I don’t think it’s too crazy of an idea.

The problem is though, that they wouldn’t have picked Kopitar. The story goes that Trevor Timmins wanted Brule, but was overruled by Gainey in favour of Price.

Reportedly Gainey had a friend who worked with the Tri-City Americans organization, and was convinced by the guy to draft Price. Timmins was livid about it, or so it goes.

 

[jaffy27]

Size/build, strengths and weaknesses, attributes, style of game, visual similarities/eye test, production, both late risers.

Size build….about the same…this means nothing

Strength and weaknesses…..what are they?
attributes….what similar attributes do they possess?




Style of game…….what are the similarities between their games?

Production….KK was at .5PPG vs Sennecke at over1.0PPG….also produced in the playoffs and KK did not for Assat Pori

Late risers….sure

I’m asking because many posters see Sennecke as a legit prospect and you don’t so maybe you seeing something they aren’t

Your clarification would be appreciated

 

[Garbageyuk]

Size build….about the same…this means nothing

Strength and weaknesses…..what are they?
attributes….what similar attributes do they possess?




Style of game…….what are the similarities between their games?

Production….KK was at .5PPG vs Sennecke at over1.0PPG….also produced in the playoffs and KK did not for Assat Pori

Late risers….sure

I’m asking because many posters see Sennecke as a legit prospect and you don’t so maybe you seeing something they aren’t

Your clarification would be appreciated

To be clear, I was talking about a Pouliot comparison, not KK. Although there are some similarities with KK as well (type of pick, late risers, the “if he puts it all together” narrative, etc).

 

[BLONG7]

You’re going to get shit for this, but if the team had picked Kopitar instead of Price, I don’t think it’s too crazy of an idea.

The problem is though, that they wouldn’t have picked Kopitar. The story goes that Trevor Timmins wanted Brule, but was overruled by Gainey in favour of Price.

Reportedly Gainey had a friend who worked with the Tri-City Americans organization, and was convinced by the guy to draft Price. Timmins was livid about it, or so it goes.

Timmins................spent too much time with Pee-Air Maguire.....

Anyhow, we all know Price was the right pick...............Gauthier and then Bergevin were the wrong picks to build a team in front of Price...............................and here we are.

 

[Habs]

What are the parallels?


You’re pissed at an unknown ending…let it play out and judge the results

just my gut feeling , still doesn’t feel right hope I eat a big fat turd sand which and the kid is a 1st pair dman at some point

You’re going to get shit for this, but if the team had picked Kopitar instead of Price, I don’t think it’s too crazy of an idea.

The problem is though, that they wouldn’t have picked Kopitar. The story goes that Trevor Timmins wanted Brule, but was overruled by Gainey in favour of Price.

Reportedly Gainey had a friend who worked with the Tri-City Americans organization, and was convinced by the guy to draft Price. Timmins was livid about it, or so it goes.

Yeah I doubt Timmons would have got it right anyways true enough

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Pouliot would've had a very tough time carrying Columbus from all the way in Minnesota, where he was drafted and where he played prior to Montreal.

Mineesota... Columbus.

Same thing.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

In the grand scheme of things, Halak may have been enough to accomplish the same as Price, and you draft a forward. I'm still pissed at last year's draft, but I'm sure they will do the right thing this year.

One was a HOFer. We just needed to surround him better. The opportunity for a cup was there.

Anyways, new window, new crew... I'm optimistic now. It sure would be nice to have Price to go with the new team. Nice to dream anyways.

 

[ZUKI]

You’re going to get shit for this, but if the team had picked Kopitar instead of Price, I don’t think it’s too crazy of an idea.

The problem is though, that they wouldn’t have picked Kopitar. The story goes that Trevor Timmins wanted Brule, but was overruled by Gainey in favour of Price.

Reportedly Gainey had a friend who worked with the Tri-City Americans organization, and was convinced by the guy to draft Price. Timmins was livid about it, or so it goes.

Gainey....he was also convinced to pick that dman Fisher( ? ) instead of Giroux . André Savard was destroyed because he was pushing for Giroux. The lost of Beauchemin, the trade of Mcdo for Gomez .

 

[Garbageyuk]

Gainey....he was also convinced to pick that dman Fisher( ? ) instead of Giroux . André Savard was destroyed because he was pushing for Giroux. The lost of Beauchemin, the trade of Mcdo for Gomez .

Convinced by none other than Timmins lmao, likely because of how pissed Timmins was over being overruled the prior year.

 

[Habs]

One was a HOFer. We just needed to surround him better. The opportunity for a cup was there.

Anyways, new window, new crew... I'm optimistic now. It sure would be nice to have Price to go with the new team. Nice to dream anyways.

It always pissed me off how this franchise of legends always hires the ex-dolts to come back and never the legends. Jesus god the pool of talent they had to help coach, guide, develop and the last 30 years they come up with Houle, Tremblay and Bergevin Mother of god , I mean really.

 

[ZUKI]

Convinced by none other than Timmins lmao, likely because of how pissed Timmins was over being overruled the prior year.

false it wasn't Timmins , i don't remember the name of the guy because he was a kind of no-name scouting in the area where that Fisher was playing. Gainey's tenure was so bad. Just imagine Habs getting Beauchemin, Mcdo, Giroux and Kopitar

 

[overlords]

It always pissed me off how this franchise of legends always hires the ex-dolts to come back and never the legends. Jesus god the pool of talent they had to help coach, guide, develop and the last 30 years they come up with Houle, Tremblay and Bergevin Mother of god , I mean really.

Ignoring Larry Robinson to sign JJ was one of the worst things

 

[Sorinth]

The story at the time of the draft was that Timmins had Price as best player available, and the next in line was Staal. He asked Gainey whether they should go skip the BPA because he was a goalie and they had Theodore and Gainey said no, just go with the BPA.

Kopitar was never in the cards and Gainey never overruled Timmins in any draft.

 

[ZUKI]

It always pissed me off how this franchise of legends always hires the ex-dolts to come back and never the legends. Jesus god the pool of talent they had to help coach, guide, develop and the last 30 years they come up with Houle, Tremblay and Bergevin Mother of god , I mean really.

Houle-Tremblay were hired by Corey and Houle was his Muppet . André Savard did a good job but it was destroyed by legend Gainey ...You can say what you want about Bergevin, but without the repetitive injuries to Price and Weber, and then the NHL records of games missed by Habs players , he would have recorded a very different result. Of course, it doesn't count because Bergy's traded Sergachev for Drouin so...

I prefer this trade to the one of Gomez, to the one of Ribiero who put a 84 points season. Agree to disagree

Ignoring Larry Robinson to sign JJ was one of the worst things

no. sorry

 

[McPhees Moustache]

WJC: - 2025 Team Canada Roster Talk

Let’s start talking about next season! what do we think the rosters looks like?

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Not a single mention of Sennecke, he had a monster month of April I guess.

Actually he is in there once, and Iginlas in there twice - don’t think it means much!

 

[Garbageyuk]

The story at the time of the draft was that Timmins had Price as best player available, and the next in line was Staal. He asked Gainey whether they should go skip the BPA because he was a goalie and they had Theodore and Gainey said no, just go with the BPA.

Kopitar was never in the cards and Gainey never overruled Timmins in any draft.

I don’t trust a word Trevor Timmins says regarding past drafts. He always says he was overruled on the bad picks, but takes full credit for the few that worked out. What a coincidence.

What he doesn’t realize is that the majority of picks under his tenure, especially first rounders, were bad, so if the team wasn’t listening to him the majority of the time, why was he even head scout, and how did he stay employed for so long? It makes no sense, and actually undermines his reputation either way.

The simple explanation is that he simply lies about past drafts, and doesn’t want to take responsibility for his bad picks. He has every reason to lie, considering he is still working in the NHL, and there is very little downside or risk of any fallout or consequences in doing so because there’s no way to verify it and no former coworker is going to start any drama over something so long ago.

 

[The Last Red]

I don’t believe anything Biceps says.

 

[Gustave]

false it wasn't Timmins , i don't remember the name of the guy because he was a kind of no-name scouting in the area where that Fisher was playing. Gainey's tenure was so bad. Just imagine Habs getting Beauchemin, Mcdo, Giroux and Kopitar

Vaughn Karpan.

 

[Tyson]

false it wasn't Timmins , i don't remember the name of the guy because he was a kind of no-name scouting in the area where that Fisher was playing. Gainey's tenure was so bad. Just imagine Habs getting Beauchemin, Mcdo, Giroux and Kopitar

Didn't the Habs draft Beauchemin in 1998?

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Didn't the Habs draft Beauchemin in 1998?

Beauchemin won the SC the next year, pairing with a great D.
I and few others wanted to bring that point but the numerous Gainey supporters here defended him and minimized the Beauchemin hockey IQ, skills and overall career. If I remember well, Gainey didn't want to sacrifice Popovic (or another sub talented D, Traverse for example) and prefered expose Beauchemin on the waivers. That was a top run Bob, sadly in the most idiotic move. Gainey can beat Bergevin in the worst moves.

 

[Tyson]

Beauchemin won the SC the next year, pairing with a great D.
I and few others wanted to bring that point but the numerous Gainey supporters here defended him and minimized the Beauchemin hockey IQ, skills and overall career. If I remember well, Gainey didn't want to sacrifice Popovic (or another sub talented D, Traverse for example) and prefered expose Beauchemin on the waivers. That was a top run Bob, sadly in the most idiotic move. Gainey can beat Bergevin in the worst moves.

Didn't Gainey try and slide Hainsey through waivers as well? Imo Bob Gainey was a substandard GM.
He did very little right before and after his daughters tragic untimely passing.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Beauchemin won the SC the next year, pairing with a great D.
I and few others wanted to bring that point but the numerous Gainey supporters here defended him and minimized the Beauchemin hockey IQ, skills and overall career. If I remember well, Gainey didn't want to sacrifice Popovic (or another sub talented D, Traverse for example) and prefered expose Beauchemin on the waivers. That was a top run Bob, sadly in the most idiotic move. Gainey can beat Bergevin in the worst moves.

Didn't Gainey try and slide Hainsey through waivers as well? Imo Bob Gainey was a substandard GM.
He did very little right before and after his daughters tragic untimely passing.

The entire league had a gentleman's agreement that due to the lock-out, they wouldn't claim each others players on waivers. Columbus did it anyway.

 

[Rapala]

Ignoring Larry Robinson to sign JJ was one of the worst things

Robinson would probably have ended up with Molson's ear.
What a shame...

Bergevin would never have lasted a frickin' decade.

 

[bsl]

One was a HOFer. We just needed to surround him better. The opportunity for a cup was there.

Anyways, new window, new crew... I'm optimistic now. It sure would be nice to have Price to go with the new team. Nice to dream anyways.

Why would price be hof? He never won a cup. (Ducks down ready for onslaught)

 

[weems]

This kid has insane hands

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