Value of: Sidney Crosby

[Toby Flenderson]

I think he wants to retire a Penguin. And if the Pens suck and miss playoffs again, I think he just retires.

Leave while he’s still good will help his legacy I think

 

[SEALBound]

I obviously couldn’t stand him earlier in his career during peak Ovi vs Sid but as they’ve aged and I aged I’ve developed an appreciation for 87 and for the Caps/Pens rivalry. My opinion as a hockey fan is that Sid should never play in another jersey. The only way I see him moving is if the Pens nosedive and he decides he wants to spend his last few years on a contender chasing another Cup. Can’t see the Pens ever pulling a Stamkos with him. And it doesn’t hurt that he’s still an elite player, which is annoying as hell for the rest of us but should make extending him easy for the Pens to do.

I feel the same about Ovi

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

I hope he leaves. He's still way too good to retire, and also way too good to waste his last few years on a declining team run by a shit for brains GM.

As for possible destinations.. I'd guess any of Boston, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas, Nashville.

Because Rob Blake is really a big f***ing smarty pants and not a pants on head f*** twit I wouldn't personally trust with a super soaker.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Crosby - McDavid - Draisaitl.

Yes please. For all the 1sts.

 

[JKG33]

Because Rob Blake is really a big f***ing smarty pants and not a pants on head f*** twit I wouldn't personally trust with a super soaker.

We can both be correct lmao

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I hope he leaves. He's still way too good to retire, and also way too good to waste his last few years on a declining team run by a shit for brains GM.

As for possible destinations.. I'd guess any of Boston, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas, Nashville.

Judging by the moves made by Blake and Staios, I guess Dubas has some good company.

Crosby - McDavid - Draisaitl.

Yes please. For all the 1sts.

He'd never go there, if there's a team he would go to it'd be the Avalanche. Thank goodness for that.

 

[ozzie]

His value would be undeniable as a second line center, 200 foot player or pairing on 1st line. He would increase any teams cup chances, in the right situation. Amazing fit behind McDavid, but not going to happen. Colorado as second centre, Toronto behind Matthews. He can fit in an make an incredible impact.

 

[Tanknation]

He basically can pick which team be wants to get a cup.

If he goes to any of

NYR
Vegas
Colorado
Carolina
Florida
Vancouver
Dallas

For starters they all instantly become cup favorites

Everyone but Vancouver I agree. I would easily put Edmonton over Vancouver here.

 

[dgibb10]

Significantly less than you'd think.

One of the greats, but a 37 year old, full NMC, 8.7 mill rental is not something teams are going to blow the farm for.

 

[66-30-33]

Significantly less than you'd think.

One of the greats, but a 37 year old, full NMC, 8.7 mill rental is not something teams are going to blow the farm for.

Well that's a given, but I am sure we could still fetch a sweet price, especially if he's signed and we retain. 1st, top prospect, young roster player. Imagine having him at a sweet price for 3-4 more years?

 

[Hockeyholic]

Crosby is exactly what a team like NYR need.

 

[dgibb10]

Well that's a given, but I am sure we could still fetch a sweet price, especially if he's signed and we retain. 1st, top prospect, young roster player. Imagine having him at a sweet price for 3-4 more years?

Those things are not both possible.

If he comes signed, he cannot be retained, or Pittsburgh would be retaining for the entire life of the extension as well.

Also, a 4 year extension on a guy who will be 38 years old when that contract kicks in and 42 when it ends is not exactly appealing.

1st, definitely.

Now, some people have different definitions of "top prospect" and "young roster player". If you could give an example of each that you think crosby would return. 1st+prospect+young player

 

[66-30-33]

Those things are not both possible.

If he comes signed, he cannot be retained, or Pittsburgh would be retaining for the entire life of the extension as well.

Also, a 4 year extension on a guy who will be 38 years old when that contract kicks in and 42 when it ends is not exactly appealing.

1st, definitely.

Now, some people have different definitions of "top prospect" and "young roster player". If you could give an example of each that you think crosby would return. 1st+prospect+young player

He wont bring back what he used to bring but because who he is he would bring back a really good haul. I mean, it's pretty logical? Pens would be rebuilding, we don't care about retaining. He's the top active playoff performer in the NHL, nobody has more points then him in the playoffs that is still playing.

 

[dgibb10]

He wont bring back what he used to bring but because who he is he would bring back a really good haul. I mean, it's pretty logical? Pens would be rebuilding, we don't care about retaining. He's the top active playoff performer in the NHL, nobody has more points then him in the playoffs that is still playing.

Please answer the question.

How much would pittsburgh be retaining, and for how long?

What is your example of 1st+top prospect+young roster player?

 

[molon labe]

I don't get why folks that have been a fan for as long as they have are so attached to him playing in Pittsburgh. Perhaps the other side of the brain hasn't had a say for them.

Sid would get a chance to pad his stats like so many youth get to with much, much better linemates elsewhere. And he would likely elongate his career by at least 2 seasons - likely 3+ by going somewhere as the #2 guy. SO MUCH pressure is put on him in Pittsburgh as THE GUY and, lately, it's gotten more and more severe. If he doesn't go 110% out there, we're losing the game. Why exert so much just to not even come close to the playoffs going forward?

Go compete, be relevant, pad the stats, be happy (since you love winning) - all the above. Staying in Pittsburgh makes almost no sense at this point.

 

[66-30-33]

Please answer the question.

How much would pittsburgh be retaining, and for how long?

What is your example of 1st+top prospect+young roster player?

I already said? 1st, top prospect, young roster player. I don't know the teams top prospects and obviously I am not saying the top prospects in the NHL, those teams aren't in a position for the playoffs. I have no idea what Dubas would be retaining...30%?

 

[Soundwave]

His value would be undeniable as a second line center, 200 foot player or pairing on 1st line. He would increase any teams cup chances, in the right situation. Amazing fit behind McDavid, but not going to happen. Colorado as second centre, Toronto behind Matthews. He can fit in an make an incredible impact.

He would play with McDavid if that ever happened, same as Wayne + Mario together in the Canada Cup.

They play together on the same line anyway in the summer according to MacKinnon and they destroy everyone including MacK's team in that Nova Scotia summer league thing they have going. According to MacKinnon his team barely can even get a hold of the puck lol.

 

[dgibb10]

I already said? 1st, top prospect, young roster player. I don't know the teams top prospects and obviously I am not saying the top prospects in the NHL, those teams aren't in a position for the playoffs. I have no idea what Dubas would be retaining...30%?

So like in terms of a range.

Are you talking top 10 prospects in hockey?
Are you talking 10-25 range?
25-50 range?
50-75 range?
75-100 range?

 

[66-30-33]

So like in terms of a range.

Are you talking top 10 prospects in hockey?
Are you talking 10-25 range?
25-50 range?
50-75 range?
75-100 range?

I am talking about teams already in the playoffs and looking to get way over. Colorado for example (don't know their prospects), probably the only team Crosby wants to play for besides Pens anyway.

 

[StreetHawk]

Well that's a given, but I am sure we could still fetch a sweet price, especially if he's signed and we retain. 1st, top prospect, young roster player. Imagine having him at a sweet price for 3-4 more years?

Sid isn't a 29 year old you are competing with 20 other clubs in free agency for. If he gets dealt, he will pick his spot and when it comes to extending, highly unlikely he'd want to move multiple times to close out his career. If he decides it's 1 of 3 teams he wants, I don't think an extension for another year or two will be that difficult to hammer out.

If you are suggesting that the Pens extend him for Stamkos or better money and retain a large chunk of like 1/3 to 1/2 of that, not sure a team would do that.

 

[StreetHawk]

I am talking about teams already in the playoffs and looking to get way over. Colorado for example (don't know their prospects), probably the only team Crosby wants to play for besides Pens anyway.

His childhood team is Montreal, but they are not close to competing for a Cup. Need to sort out their D and G first.

Would he entertain one of the other Metro clubs? Would Pitt send him to any of NYR, NYI, NJ, Car for example? The rest of the east TB, FLA, Bos, Tor. Tor, can't see Dubas even thinking of sending Sid there. TB/FLA minimal assets to send back the other way. Bos might be a maybe.

Rest of the west likely Dal or LV. Edm, don't see it. Van or Win... probably not.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Man it would be so weird seeing Sid with a different uniform on...I know he still has some left in the tank to go for another few playoff runs but sometimes people are just meant to stay with one team and I think Sid and Ovy will be last two players that plays for just one team honestly and I think its a great thing that has died out.

 

[66-30-33]

His childhood team is Montreal, but they are not close to competing for a Cup. Need to sort out their D and G first.

Would he entertain one of the other Metro clubs? Would Pitt send him to any of NYR, NYI, NJ, Car for example? The rest of the east TB, FLA, Bos, Tor. Tor, can't see Dubas even thinking of sending Sid there. TB/FLA minimal assets to send back the other way. Bos might be a maybe.

Rest of the west likely Dal or LV. Edm, don't see it. Van or Win... probably not.

It probably wont happen and he re-signs here, but pretty sure he would only wanna play with Colorado.

 

[McShogun99]

As much as I would love to see Crosby play with Mcdavid or Mackinnon, I don't want to see him wearing another teams jersey. Hopefully he retires as a lifelong Penguin.

 

[Guess]

Let him come to Montreal. He grew up a Habs fan, his father played for the Habs organization, he can speak French, and he can finally lead the Habs back to glory.

Crosby-Suzuki down the middle would be a lot of fun to watch.

Habs have a nice bunch of defense prospects that could be used, along with draft picks. Let’s make it happen.

We're too far away from competing for this, we need another two years minimum.