Value of: Sidney Crosby to NYR

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

If Crosby goes anywhere it's Colorado to play with his buddy MacKinnon.

 

[Perennial]

no
Rangers do not want to surrender Schneider or Krav

Sid is not in that much better shape than Geo
and they are both wrong side of 30

and that is not taking into account overiding factor, salary cap

NO NO NO NO

We'll just have to agree to disagree here...

Kravtsov doesn't look like he'll be part of the Rangers going forward, so his inclusion seems reasonable

And the Rangers are set at RD with Fox, Trouba, and Lundkvist, so I can't imagine they'd balk at Schneider being involved in the deal

Their cap will be tight, and players like Chytil and Kaako may not be retained because of it, but Lafreniere and Miller aren't due for extensions until 2024, at which point New York's dead cap from buyouts will be off the books...

 

[Perennial]

You don't seem like someone worth discussing the topic with, so I won't waste my time.

If you think that pile of shit can get you Sidney Crosby, I'd recommend you look up who Sidney Crosby is.

That pile of spare parts package didn't even get the Rangers a broken Jack Eichel who wanted out, how can you seriously think that would cut it for Crosby?

Obviously you're the authority on Crosby's value, and only your opinion matters...

Don't worry, I won't waste anymore of your time

 

[TGWL]

To New York: Crosby

To Pittsburgh: Strome, Kravtsov, Othmann, Schneider, 2022 1st, STL's 2022 2nd


Rangers get Crosby without sacrificing any of their elite young talent currently on their roster

Pittsburgh add a nice haul of young assets, plus a veteran top 6 forward on an expiring contract who can be flipped to a contender looking to dump salary...

For example...

To Florida: Strome

To Pittsburgh: Hornqvist, 2023 1st


So, Pittsburgh comes away with...

NYR's 2022 1st, FLA's 2023 1st, STL's 2022 2nd, Schneider, Kravtsov, Othmann

That's 2 1sts, a 2nd, and 3 prospects for Crosby

All things considered, that's a pretty good return...

Can you tell me NYR are going to win the cup within the 4 years of having Crosby? If not, NYR can't make that trade. Too much future. Too much cap. I also can't see Florida offering something like that up for Ryan Strome.

 

[Perennial]

Can you tell me NYR are going to win the cup within the 4 years of having Crosby? If not, NYR can't make that trade. Too much future. Too much cap. I also can't see Florida offering something like that up for Ryan Strome.

I think the trade significantly improves New York's chances at winning the Cup...

And I think if they can add a player like Crosby without sacrificing anything significant off their roster... like Lafreniere, Miller, Kakko, etc.... they should be taking that chance

Florida will be desperate to clear Hornqvist's salary from their payroll before next season... whether they make this trade or something similar, they'll likely have to part with an asset to make it happen

 

[Night Shift]

I think maybe some Ranger fans fell in love with Crosby this past week after he tossed a Cap to the boards.

 

[rogking65]

You don't seem like someone worth discussing the topic with, so I won't waste my time.

If you think that pile of shit can get you Sidney Crosby, I'd recommend you look up who Sidney Crosby is.

That pile of spare parts package didn't even get the Rangers a broken Jack Eichel who wanted out, how can you seriously think that would cut it for Crosby?

you are obviously not a Pittsburgh fan . Why hang on to Crosby if you can get something good for him .They are not gong to be a contender in the next few years and Sid will be retired by then.And with him being 34 the haul is not expected to be great. And Eichel is much younger. I do not get these fans who want to hang on to players in their mid thirties who will be experiencing a big decline in production soon,especially if the team is nowhere close to a contender . It is not like pre salary cap years when you could sign whoever you wanted to complement your aging stars. How do you not see this

 

[Empoleon8771]

you are obviously not a Pittsburgh fan . Why hang on to Crosby if you can get something good for him .They are not gong to be a contender in the next few years and Sid will be retired by then.And with him being 34 the haul is not expected to be great. And Eichel is much younger. I do not get these fans who want to hang on to players in their mid thirties who will be experiencing a big decline in production soon,especially if the team is nowhere close to a contender . It is not like pre salary cap years when you could sign whoever you wanted to complement your aging stars. How do you not see this

Yes, I'm obviously not a Pittsburgh fan because I think trading the face of the franchise and the 2nd best player in franchise history is stupid.

Just because this website fetishizes draft picks and prospects doesn't mean that is the correct way to operate.

 

[rogking65]

Yes, I'm obviously not a Pittsburgh fan because I think trading the face of the franchise and the 2nd best player in franchise history is stupid.

Just because this website fetishizes draft picks and prospects doesn't mean that is the correct way to operate.

do you think Pittsburgh needs to rebuild or will they win the cup with current lineup before Crosby retires

 

[Night Shift]

you are obviously not a Pittsburgh fan . Why hang on to Crosby if you can get something good for him .They are not gong to be a contender in the next few years and Sid will be retired by then.And with him being 34 the haul is not expected to be great. And Eichel is much younger. I do not get these fans who want to hang on to players in their mid thirties who will be experiencing a big decline in production soon,especially if the team is nowhere close to a contender . It is not like pre salary cap years when you could sign whoever you wanted to complement your aging stars. How do you not see this

I'm not understanding what that has to do with anything.

 

[3074326]

you are obviously not a Pittsburgh fan . Why hang on to Crosby if you can get something good for him .They are not gong to be a contender in the next few years and Sid will be retired by then.And with him being 34 the haul is not expected to be great. And Eichel is much younger. I do not get these fans who want to hang on to players in their mid thirties who will be experiencing a big decline in production soon,especially if the team is nowhere close to a contender . It is not like pre salary cap years when you could sign whoever you wanted to complement your aging stars. How do you not see this

I'd get banned if I said what I wanted to say to you. But calling other peoples' fanship into question because they disagree with your philosophy on what to do with their favorite team is absolutely f***ing stupid.

I also don't want Crosby and Malkin traded. Does that make me a bad fan? Does that mean more than seeing my team win in every round of the playoffs? Does that mean more than being at Mario's last home game?

No. Your post sucks.

@Empoleon8771 is certainly opinionated (not an insult), but I've never seen anything other than passion for his team.

 

[rogking65]

I'm not understanding what that has to do with anything.

he is valuing one player more than what is good for the future of the team, Pittsburgh is not going to win the cup in the next 5 yrs with the current lineup and whats in the pipeline. If you hang onto Crosby until he retires you get nothing in return and are slowing a rebuild

 

[66-30-33]

It would be sick to watch Crosby and MacKinnon play together but Crosby is a lifer unless he wants out.

 

[BHD]

No offense to the Rangers, but I can’t see him playing for them. IMO, it’s either Montreal or Colorado if he ever leaves Pittsburgh.

 

[Night Shift]

do you think Pittsburgh needs to rebuild or will they win the cup with current lineup before Crosby retires

If he requests a trade to chase one more cup then it'll happen. He's stated numerous times though that he wants to stay and retire in Pittsburgh. That said it's hard to say what the near future holds. Right now so much speculation and ideas of what will happen. Father time has hit us hard so the rebuild is eminent. Whether he wants to stay during the rebuild or changes his mind about staying is anyones guess. But Pittsburgh is not going to treat him like yesterday's trash. It will be on his terms

 

[Spilot23]

If Crosby goes anywhere it's Colorado to play with his buddy MacKinnon.

 

[Night Shift]

 

[rogking65]

If he requests a trade to chase one more cup then it'll happen. He's stated numerous times though that he wants to stay and retire in Pittsburgh. That said it's hard to say what the near future holds. Right now so much speculation and ideas of what will happen. Father time has hit us hard so the rebuild is eminent. Whether he wants to stay during the rebuild or changes his mind about staying is anyones guess. But Pittsburgh is not going to treat him like yesterday's trash. It will be on his terms

I agree fully . I just find the idea of hanging on to Crosby, no matter what, kind of preposterous.. I could actually see Crosby asking to be traded to a contender for some very goog prospects and/or draft picks because it would benefit him and the Penguins both

 

[Mrfenn92]

you are obviously not a Pittsburgh fan . Why hang on to Crosby if you can get something good for him .They are not gong to be a contender in the next few years and Sid will be retired by then.And with him being 34 the haul is not expected to be great. And Eichel is much younger. I do not get these fans who want to hang on to players in their mid thirties who will be experiencing a big decline in production soon,especially if the team is nowhere close to a contender . It is not like pre salary cap years when you could sign whoever you wanted to complement your aging stars. How do you not see this

They can “rebuild” when their legends say they are done playing.

 

[Big Empty]

I imagine if Sid leaves PIT it is for Colorado or Montreal.

No offense to the Rangers, but I can’t see him playing for them. IMO, it’s either Montreal or Colorado if he ever leaves Pittsburgh.

Crosby in Montreal would be unreal. It’s a shame that the Habs suck and we’d just be wasting the last years of his career though.

 

[rogking65]

I'd get banned if I said what I wanted to say to you. But calling other peoples' fanship into question because they disagree with your philosophy on what to do with their favorite team is absolutely f***ing stupid.

I also don't want Crosby and Malkin traded. Does that make me a bad fan? Does that mean more than seeing my team win in every round of the playoffs? Does that mean more than being at Mario's last home game?

No. Your post sucks.

@Empoleon8771 is certainly opinionated (not an insult), but I've never seen anything other than passion for his team.

see my post number 43 below. If i was c lose to the end of my career as a superstar player I think I would like another kick at the cup rather than languish on a team that is going nowhere fast. Crosby, Malkin and ownership would probably all agree a la Ray Bourque

 

[Night Shift]

Crosby in Montreal would be unreal. It’s a shame that the Habs suck and we’d just be wasting the last years of his career though.

We know Crosby was a Canadians fan as a kid and his father got drafted by MTL, so I'm sure he's kicked around the thought. It would be for that reason. Kind of like when Lindros went to Toronto (Lindros had terrible taste as a kid).

 

[Sweetpotato]

Just for legacy reasons I doubt he is dealt, but it would be the smart move for the franchise at this point to get some high end futures back for him and kick off a rebuild.

They are done as cup contender so the next half decade will they will likely just be riding out Crosby/Malkin/Letangs careers rather than actually building a team with a brighter future.

This.

I imagine he goes to Colorado or Montreal as mentioned by other posters.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Could it ever happen? Pittsburgh get jump started on the rebuild? If it happens what would it take? I think Laf being on a line with Crosby would do wonders for him

Not only would this trade never occur in a million years, but if it did... do you really think the Pens wouldn't demand Lafreniere +++++ be included?

 

[hamzarocks]

You don't seem like someone worth discussing the topic with, so I won't waste my time.

If you think that pile of shit can get you Sidney Crosby, I'd recommend you look up who Sidney Crosby is.

That pile of spare parts package didn't even get the Rangers a broken Jack Eichel who wanted out, how can you seriously think that would cut it for Crosby?

Just for a package I'd offer from the leafs (though doubt it is enough/Crosby being on the market/wanting to come to T.O with insane expectations which would hurt his legacy perhaps)

Rodion Amirov
Nick Robertson
2022 1st rounder
2023 1st rounder
Topi Niemela/Matthew Knies
1 of Rasmus Sandin/Timothy Lilijgren
Alex Kerfoot (for cap purposes)
Justin Holl (cap and he could bring another 2nd back)

Basically the leafs top 3 of 4 prospects in the organization at the moment, along with 1 of our young NHl defenseman who are looking good in their early NHL tenures at the moment, along with a pair of 1sts and then two NHL players who have varying range of values

Don't have a Krebs-level asset though I do think this value is better than what Eichel got by a fair bit, Eichel wasn't healthy, and even when he is he wasn't/hasn't known to be better than Healthy Crosby.

Crosby would be an insane add to basically any team.