Should the Senators trade Norris to get a replacement for Zub?

[Norris4Norris]

Trading one player on a bad team for a bad player from another team makes no one better. It certainly doesn't make the Sens a playoff team unless we can trade Norris for McDavid or Hellebyuck.

 

[DueDiligence]

Doesn’t open up as many possibilities as you think because we have no prospects or picks to move for that other center.

I'm not talking about adding a second line guy as Pinto can move up. A solid 3rd line vet wouldn't cost that much.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

I don't think it is a panic move. It's already been reported that they were shopping Norris last year prior to his injury.

Last year he had a shoulder injury, so wouldn’t that be more of a panic move? Maybe there’s some detail that is missing or left out?

There’s some incongruent thinking happening here. If people think there is re-injury potential, then how are we getting a good return for him, especially a legit defender to replace Zub?

Pick one theory/argument (whatever) and then be consistent and stick to it with the rest of the thinking (not you, its s general comment).

 

[PlayOn]

Last year he had a shoulder injury, so wouldn’t that be more of a panic move? Maybe there’s some detail that is missing or left out?

There’s some incongruent thinking happening here. If people think there is re-injury potential, then how are we getting a good return for him, especially a legit defender to replace Zub?

Pick one theory/argument (whatever) and then be consistent and stick to it with the rest of the thinking (not you, its s general comment).

They might just not believe in the player too much, injuries aside.

One thing that does worry me a bit about him is his puck distribution, or even receiving passes. He kind of always seems to be fighting just to maintain possession. Don’t know if his timing is off bc of injuries, strength is not there etc or what. He has 1 assist 5 on 5 this season playing with guys like Tkachuk or Batherson all year which is pretty crazy. In fairness to him he plays some hard minutes though.

The shooting, 200 ft game etc I think will continue to grow as he gets more settled. He doesn’t have to be the best playmaker in the world but as a C probably has to use his linemates better than he does currently to be successful.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

If you can get a legitimate 2nd pair defenseman, locked up, and roughly the same age as Norris you pull the trigger on that all day.

Love Zub, but the guy is made of glass. They need something else.

Definitely opens up a hole up front, but Pinto can play 2nd line center. Might need another 3rd line winger but those are much easier to find than defensemen.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

They might just not believe in the player too much, injuries aside.

One thing that does worry me a bit about him is his puck distribution, or even receiving passes. He kind of always seems to be fighting just to maintain possession. Don’t know if his timing is off bc of injuries, strength is not there etc or what. He has 1 assist 5 on 5 this season playing with guys like Tkachuk or Batherson all year which is pretty crazy. In fairness to him he plays some hard minutes though.

The shooting, 200 ft game etc I think will continue to grow as he gets more settled. He doesn’t have to be the best playmaker in the world but as a C probably has to use his linemates better than he does currently to be successful.

To me, Norris seems to be playing with some intensity and physicality. You could really see that in the last game (not the only one) I thought. There doesn’t appear to be any lingering injury issues (so far at least).

He’s on pace for about 60 points last I checked. I think his defensive game is decent but I haven’t dived deep into the stats.

But, a lot boils down to what the strategy is. Are they rebuilding, retooling, staying the course to the end of this season, or what. IDK.

If we think there’s injury risk, then you’d think NHL management would have the same thinking. In that case (if true), then not sure how trading Norris amounts to a needle moving asset coming back. Just having additional cap doesn’t automatically equate to improvement either. You have to attract and land that desired replacement player (not as easy for a small market Canadian team) and you have to target wisely. A few of the players we landed this off season have not been great if we need a recent example.

A lot of it boils down to strategy and the goals the team has. We can guess or speculate I suppose. Not sure anybody really knows though.