Pantokrator
Who's the clown?
Rather stock the cupboard then pay multiple high picks for 3 spots. This draft is our chance to become fully stocked at all positions
I agree. If Provorov is unavailable, I wouldn't mind trading back a few spots.
Rather stock the cupboard then pay multiple high picks for 3 spots. This draft is our chance to become fully stocked at all positions
Why? To gain an extra 3rd? Screw that. Get the best player @ 7
Why? To gain an extra 3rd? Screw that. Get the best player @ 7
You than can package that 3rd with the 29/30 to move up into the mid20's and get a guy like Noah Juulsen or Denis Guryanov.
I wouldn't trade down for the just a 3rd. It would have to be for a 2nd or quality player.
How much difference is there really between 7 and 10? The Flyers would still get one of Barzal, Zacha, Werenski, Rantanen, Crouse, or Connor.
No interest in trading down from #7. I have no problem moving the Tampa 1st, Chicago 2nd, and picks next year though to move up from 29/30. Have to think Hextall will still be acquiring more picks at the draft and up until next years deadline.
Maybe something like #29/30+2015 2nd+2016 2nd to get up to 18-20? It's likely they can grab a forward that falls into that range.
1-I'm not sure packaging a 3rd + the 29/30 moves up 5 spots.
2-I have no idea what the difference is, but if the Flyers think there is a cut in talent. Dont' do it.
I don't see the point unless there is someone they absolutely love.
I think in this draft the guy at #30 has a decent chance of being a better player than the guy at #13.
I think there is a clear top 12... but then it is a bit of a lottery.
Also if they take a forward at 7 you would 'expect' they are more likely to go D with the 2nd 1st, and for me after the best 3 dmen there is a cluster of ~7-8 guys in the same tier who will go between ~15 and 30, with very little separation in upside and ability.
Also guys with seriously projectable 1st line upside like Konecny, Meier and Svechnikov I imagine are gone by 18 anyway...
The way I see it:
At 18 on D a guy like ~Zboril/Roy/Chabot may go. At 30 on D a guy like ~Juulsen/Carlsson/Larsson may go.
At 18 at F a guy like ~Merkley/White/Eriksson Ek/Boeser . At 30 at F a guy like Eriksson Ek/Boeser/DeBrusk/Bracco may go.
Is the difference worth those picks? No. If Konency or Svechnikov lasted until 18 I would be more tempted... but still reluctant. I think both are likely gone by then though.
I had Svechnikov in mind when pondering the idea. Also would be Provorov at #7, not a forward.
Hypothetically, that would give them Provorov, Svechnikov, and still another 4 picks in rounds 3/4. They still hold a pick in every round in 2016 and I'm sure they could recoup a few more picks by dealing Schenn/Grossmann/Streit over the next 10 months.
As good as Provorov or Connor or whomever may be, I think it is pretty safe bet Marner will be a star.
Would you be willing to trade up with Arizona? If so, at what price?
1. 7th + our other number
2. 7th + B. Schenn for 3rd and Arizona second?
etc..
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I like Marner but we need players and at 7 we are going to get a flat out stud I know.
As I said in another thread, if we were to move back...I would only go to 10. And in exchange, I would go as low as an exchange of 2nd rounders.
That could put us from #60/61 overall with Chicago's 2nd all the way up to 38-40.
To me...that jump in 20 spots in the 2nd round is good enough to drop down a few spots. Especially if I have a forward as the BPA and only Hanifin has been drafted when our pick comes along, because I do think Columbus and SJ want Provorov and Werenski.
All depends on what it costs. I'd be interested in Strome, Marner, or Hanifin, but I wouldn't trade up to three and give up a ton. If one of them fell to five and we could swing a deal that allowed us to keep that TBL pick I'd do it.
I'd demand their second rounder, not just offer to swap.
It cost Toronto a second + third to move up from 7th to 5th in 2008.
@NHLFLYERA doing some work this morning, posting years worth of 29th & 30th picks.
Its' 90% junk.
Go get Marner
Carolina have the 5th pick.
Sounds like people think the best chance for the Flyers is 4th. Toronto needs picks desperately, think they will be more than willing to accept both 1sts.
I wouldn't offer both firsts for Toronto's pick. The draft is insanely deep. You can get Gurnayov or another player who in a normal year would be a top 10 pick.