Rumor: Should the CBJ pursue Elias Pettersson?

[Napoli]

This is a rare opportunity. Pettersson is an incredible talent that would do wonders here. Evason would maximize him and he'd be back to 80+ points seasons, I'm fairly confident in that.

Zero interest in Miller.


Some of the suggestions here are funny, there's no way Vancouver is taking Sillinger as the main piece along with some picks.

The ask is going to be Fantilli plus and if you're getting Pettersson, you don't "need" Fantilli. I like mayor's suggestion of giving them Severson, it'd be fairer.

That said I'd much rather go in the direction of Lindstrom+ but I doubt Vancouver goes that direction.

Chinakhov, Sillinger and 1st I think is a steal for us, as much as I dont want to lose Chinny. Once again I doubt it as Chinny isn't healthy.

My thought is, you should probably not make this trade unless it's heavily in your favor, i.e. no Marchy, Voronkov, KJ, Fantilli, Chinny.

If its for other pieces, Id consider it. This is a trade that Jarmo would be all over and that's something that scares me. This team could really use someone like Dobson a whole lot more.

 

[thebus88]

i still think a sillinger + provorov package with a good tertiary piece (chinakhov)

I’m trying to handle all these posts essentially disregarding and downplaying Chinakhov and treating him like some “throw in” in these trades, but, I can’t handle it anymore.

Chinakhov is on a completely different level than Sillinger as a player, and has much more trade value than both him and Provorov.

How about we keep ALL of Chinakhov, Marchenko, Voronkov, Johnson, and Fantilli…

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

The ask is going to be Fantilli plus and if you're getting Pettersson, you don't "need" Fantilli. I like mayor's suggestion of giving them Severson, it'd be fairer.

I'd rather keep Fantilli and let him grow here. It's a marathon to build a winner. Not a sprint.

 

[LazyCircuits]

I’m bouncing between we must acquire him and we need to stay well away.

In terms of assets I would give up a combination of any three of the following:

our first this year or next year unprotected
Sillinger
Provorov
Lindstrom
Harris

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Don’t know what to make of the situation at this point. Pettersson’s drop in production since signing his contract is troubling. I guess from a “fit” standpoint I’d just have to trust HCDE and GMDW.

As far as what I’d send? Again that’s difficult. I acknowledge I might be a bit over attached to some of our young players while simultaneously acknowledging we need upgrades to the team.

For example Sillinger seems to be a “foregone conclusion” but I still see him as a valuable piece, despite the recent play of DBB. The rest of that group I’m loathe to even consider, including Chinakov.

 

[alphafox]

Don’t know what to make of the situation at this point. Pettersson’s drop in production since signing his contract is troubling. I guess from a “fit” standpoint I’d just have to trust HCDE and GMDW.

As far as what I’d send? Again that’s difficult. I acknowledge I might be a bit over attached to some of our young players while simultaneously acknowledging we need upgrades to the team.

For example Sillinger seems to be a “foregone conclusion” but I still see him as a valuable piece, despite the recent play of DBB. The rest of that group I’m loathe to even consider, including Chinakov.

When I am looking at what to trade on this team It's mostly what I think their place/value would be if our cup window opens in another couple of years. My basic assumption at this point is that Sillinger gets replaced almost no matter what as LDBB and Lindstrom are both Centers coming for his spot and at least one if not both look to pass him on the depth chart in the next three years. Likewise, Proverov+Severson and a few other D as Svozil, Elick, Marrelli look to have pretty clear lines on mid pair duties if their development continues. On the wing I see Brindley as a top 6 lock starting next year and Kirill Dolzhenkov as someone that could be the next russian phenom meaning someone like Chinakov and Jenner are at least replaceable if not outright upgrades.

If you forward project our team there are a lot of clear roster players who likely don't have a place due to internal development and cap questions. If we can turn those guys into a piece that makes us more competitive earlier and might even give extra time to develop and shelter a Lindstom or a Brindley I think it makes a ton of sense as those will be assets I don't see on the team long term no mater what.

Also, on the contract, by the mid point of that contract it could very well look like a reasonable deal, as the cap goes up. Marner and Rantanen are going to get 14+ Million playing with some of the best in the world and EP40 was right in the mix with them for the last two years playing with significantly worse linemate. Even if he only ever gets back to 2023-2024 form he could be one of the best contracts in the league and will probably be a pretty standard "top line" contract in three years.

 

[Napoli]

I’m bouncing between we must acquire him and we need to stay well away.

In terms of assets I would give up a combination of any three of the following:

our first this year or next year unprotected
Sillinger
Provorov
Lindstrom
Harris

Anything along these lines is a steal for a player of Pettersson's caliber. I am doubtful they ever move him.

Don’t know what to make of the situation at this point. Pettersson’s drop in production since signing his contract is troubling. I guess from a “fit” standpoint I’d just have to trust HCDE and GMDW.

The whole "production" drop is overblown imo. Production relies on a lot of factors and his stats aren't even bad, he's great analytically and this can only improve being inputted into a great system like Evason's.

This team can really use another line to help the secondary scoring, both now and in the future. Pettersson would also be easiest the most talented center we have ever had, I really think Miller is the one that's going to get traded, Pettersson isn't a player you find easily.

 

[alphafox]

I’m bouncing between we must acquire him and we need to stay well away.

In terms of assets I would give up a combination of any three of the following:

our first this year or next year unprotected
Sillinger
Provorov
Lindstrom
Harris

This is a strange ranking of assets. Our Unprotected 1st and Lindstrom are literal lottery tickets that could be franchise altering and defining. Outside of the Injury (Which legitimately is huge although based off the latest news its sounds positive) Lindstrom wouldn't even be in the conversation. I could see breaking them down as categories and select one from each.

A
Lindstrom
Sillinger

B
Proverov
1st
Harris

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

This is a strange ranking of assets. Our Unprotected 1st and Lindstrom are literal lottery tickets that could be franchise altering and defining. Outside of the Injury (Which legitimately is huge although based off the latest news its sounds positive) Lindstrom wouldn't even be in the conversation. I could see breaking them down as categories and select one from each.

A
Lindstrom
Sillinger

B
Proverov
1st
Harris

I could be willing to go Lindstrom and next year's first because it doesn't really dilute our current player pool. i think them being interested in Harris is kind of laughable and zero chance they'd want Provorov without a long term deal. I'm not sure he'd be interested in playing there long term.

But let's be real, Jack Eichel was trade for essentially 3 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder when it comes down to it. Vegas gave up Krebs and Tuch in addition to future 1st and 2nd.

I'm not interested in paying that price for anyone unless they become a real difference maker and we aren't hurting that bad on offense right now.