nhindian
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Should NHL Player Participate in 2018?
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Yes for sure. I'm also a big proponent of a hockey World Cup, but I'd like to see one alternate with the Olympics. The Olympics are the biggest stage for the sport and I think there is a mutually beneficial relationship to be had where both sides come out ahead.
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chauron
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More publicity, benefits in more spectators that come to arenas.
Ice Hockey benefits as a whole, it's a respectable sport of olympics family and not a bloodsport. Publicity x2
Players want it, they desire it. Just take a look at Ovi for example, he would've eloped.
Fans love it.
leafsfuture
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You keep your players happy??
The amount of revenue they would lose from 2 weeks (less than it sounds considering they still play 82 games) is nothing compared to what they would lose if the PA voted to go on strike
The NHL is done going to the Olympics, I think they will forgo Korea because of the travel and then will not go after that because the new commisioner after Bettman will not want any part of it...I never liked the idea of taking away the opportunity from the amateur guys to be honest....I guess you cannot totally rule out they may do a one time exception if down the road the games are somewhere in North America.
After the 2010 olympics I just don't care. 2010 olympic gold was the best moment of my life, especially since I was at the game. Sochi didn't make me feel anything
thats not true, u have to be under 23 years of age to play. i think three players are allowed to be older, but still its far from being a best on best tourney...and therefore pretty meaningless in the soccer world...
anyway, yes for nhl pros in '18
jekoh
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haha you're absolutely right. Lets amend that to; biggest winter sports event bar noneI can think of one that's on this summer...
We've won 3 of the last 4 Olympics Gold Medals... the novelty of the games from a hockey perspective is starting to wear off. We've won, proven we're the best (By a fair margin), so going again doesn't prove anything for us.
I would like to see the tournament carry on, but it needs to be mutually benefiting to both sides (NHL and IIHF/IOC). The IIHF and IOC seem to think they should gain all the rewards financially at the cost of the NHL's product. Many players are now returning with injuries to teams who desperately needed them for the playoff push in the NHL. Fans here are pissed off because players like Tavares, Zetterburg, Kesler and others are now injured and may not play. Kesler has an injured hand blocking a shot, but the Canucks still have no idea what the extent of the injury is. With Kesler, it could very well be a broken hand because you know he'd still play with it. He's the same guy that asked a doctor to chop off half his finger so he could continue playing in the NHL playoffs.... they didn't and he was forced to miss the remaining games.
Every time the injury subject comes up, we always have people who are pro-athletes going to the games say stupid things like "Well, it could have happened in any other game".
Sure it could have... but it didn't. It happened when the player was doing nothing to help benefit your team.
Your wife/girlfriend could accidentally gotten pregnant as well. If it was playing for you it's not so bad, but if it was playing with someone else you're not going to be too happy about it. Maybe we should take the "Pro Athletes going" way of looking at things and just say "Ah well... it could have happened with me to. But even though it didn't.... ah well!"
I would like to see the tournament carry on, but it needs to be mutually benefiting to both sides (NHL and IIHF/IOC). The IIHF and IOC seem to think they should gain all the rewards financially at the cost of the NHL's product. Many players are now returning with injuries to teams who desperately needed them for the playoff push in the NHL. Fans here are pissed off because players like Tavares, Zetterburg, Kesler and others are now injured and may not play. Kesler has an injured hand blocking a shot, but the Canucks still have no idea what the extent of the injury is. With Kesler, it could very well be a broken hand because you know he'd still play with it. He's the same guy that asked a doctor to chop off half his finger so he could continue playing in the NHL playoffs.... they didn't and he was forced to miss the remaining games.
Every time the injury subject comes up, we always have people who are pro-athletes going to the games say stupid things like "Well, it could have happened in any other game".
Sure it could have... but it didn't. It happened when the player was doing nothing to help benefit your team.
Your wife/girlfriend could accidentally gotten pregnant as well. If it was playing for you it's not so bad, but if it was playing with someone else you're not going to be too happy about it. Maybe we should take the "Pro Athletes going" way of looking at things and just say "Ah well... it could have happened with me to. But even though it didn't.... ah well!"
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If an athlete chooses not to represent his country in order to please his bank account and his gm he is nothing but a traitor
coladin
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And watch the Russians win another illegitimate Gold Medal? Hell no.
Canadians had to watch and suffer from 1952-2002 with the Russians steamrolling everyone because they had their best against our scrubs. Can you imagine Maurice Richard, Howe, Beliveau, Hull, etc...in 1956, 1960?
There has to be a better format. FIFA has the Olympics as a U23 tournament. Why not do that? Less NHLers, less stars probably, more AHL players and such.
Or move the juniors to the Olympics for that year. No pros at all.
Or move it to the Summer Olympics. The NBA does it.
I would not accept, nor would any of these athletes accept, not going. True, there is no Korean NHLer superstar who will make a point about it like going to Russia where hockey is big, but you can't have a group of KHLers blow the rest of the world's scrubs in a signature event. That is not in the Olympic spirit.
Canadians had to watch and suffer from 1952-2002 with the Russians steamrolling everyone because they had their best against our scrubs. Can you imagine Maurice Richard, Howe, Beliveau, Hull, etc...in 1956, 1960?
There has to be a better format. FIFA has the Olympics as a U23 tournament. Why not do that? Less NHLers, less stars probably, more AHL players and such.
Or move the juniors to the Olympics for that year. No pros at all.
Or move it to the Summer Olympics. The NBA does it.
I would not accept, nor would any of these athletes accept, not going. True, there is no Korean NHLer superstar who will make a point about it like going to Russia where hockey is big, but you can't have a group of KHLers blow the rest of the world's scrubs in a signature event. That is not in the Olympic spirit.
Jussi
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Because there's no pressure/reason/incentive to do that for IOC/IIHF. They can't be forced to do that since all the European countries value the Olympics too much to not stop their leagues.
There is a huge incentive for the IOC/IIHF... it's called money.
When the NHL'ers are there, everyone BUT the NHL makes more money. The bids for TV rights, etc all go up a huge amount. This is the main issue the NHL has. THEIR product is being used, but they (The NHL) is not making any money off of it, but everyone else is.
It would be like me coming to borrow your truck to move. You allow me to use your truck... but all that I expect is that you'll put some gas back in the truck. Don't bring it back to me on empty and broken down because you smashed it up.
jekoh
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Why not? Because KHLers >> U-23 players, that's why.
Many juniors are pros, but regardless, what is the incentive for the IIHF and the IOC to devaluate their own tournament by going to juniors instead of obviously much better over-20 KHLers?
KHLers would face other KHLers and players from the NLA, Elitserien, etc, so it's unlikely they would "blow" them.
jekoh
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Yes, and money is exactly why the IOC will not want to limit eligibility to u-23. A tournament featuring all the best KHLers is obviously more appealing and thus more profitable than a tourney limited to u-23.
LynxBud
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I think yes, but who really cares. I don't even give a crap what the owners and GMs think. It's the players that want this.
If a professional athlete is chosen to represent their country in the Olympics, how do you tell them they aren't allowed?
I just think it should be left up to the players.
If a professional athlete is chosen to represent their country in the Olympics, how do you tell them they aren't allowed?
I just think it should be left up to the players.
They signed a very lucrative contract that will set them up for the rest of their life. The least they can do is play for their owner that's paying them.
The NHL should never leave the olympics. Yes, it probably doesn't benefit the NHL as much as it should, but as a fan, there's nothing like it. A world cup would be hollow and meaningless for me.
Guardian17
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Yes.
However, I would like the games to be played on an NHL sized rink.
Canada's games against Norway, Austria and even Finland were boring on the big ice.
However, I would like the games to be played on an NHL sized rink.
Canada's games against Norway, Austria and even Finland were boring on the big ice.
