The logistics of putting in the extra steel girders to support that kind of weight isn't worth the upside IMO.
Plus the doors would have to be widened.
Too much effort.
Plus the doors would have to be widened.
Too much effort.
Should Keith Tkachuk be in the Hall of Fame
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Tkachuk's best seasons were not with the Blues, so you assuming his case is being made because he played with Pronger and Mcinnis isn't fair. Regardless, guys shouldn't have their accomplishments marginalized for playing with other good players.
exactly
not a single award. zero top 10 point finishes. well under a PPG for his career. how on earth is this guy a HOFer? at best he’s one of the leading candidates for the hall of very good.
Nicholls 1,127GP, 475G, 734A, 1,209TP
Nicholls plays as many games JR, he's at least at 525G and 1,300TP
Unfortunately for Bernie, his wife Heather had a tough pregnancy with the twins after being traded out of LA.
And in 93, he lost a son after a year battle in the hospital.
I would put Nicholls ahead of Tkackuk. The one person who should be in already is Mogilny.
Tkachuk did so *something*. He scored over 500 goals and 1000 points while being one of the very best power forwards of his era. He didn't put up great numbers in the playoffs, but how many of the teams he was on were true contenders? I'm not sure his getting in the HHOF should hinge on that. Internationally, he performed well in several tournaments and was on the winning team for the 1996 WCOH.
Easy no if you actually remember the player, but I guess it's been long enough that people forget.
Ozakar
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I wouldn’t say a hard no like some. It could be that people perceive Tkachuk differently depending on where they’re from. Most users here are probably millennials and were kids when Tkachuk played. They didn’t watch or understand professional hockey but probably played video games, traded cards and of course played hockey or at least street hockey. In Europe nobody wanted Tkachuk cards. Mighty Ducks was the most popular team back then, thanks to their cool jerseys, also Red Wings and the Pittsburg Penguins. The most popular players were the big stars, like Lemieux, Lindros, Kariya and to Europeans of course Forsberg, Selanne, Jagr and Hasek and so on. But this may have been a local thing. In fact this is my experience from where I grew up and may not even be true to Europe at all! And of course in the US Tkachuk may have been popular or at least popular in a local market, where he played. I wouldn’t judge those who thinks Tkachuk belongs in the HHOF. This far back in time these players were legends more than people to most of us who were only kids or not even born. 500 goals is also a very respectable number, also it looks like he won the 1996 World Cup? So it’s not like he didn’t win anything.
I disagree with needing a Stanley Cup/team hardware to get in.
We've seen some great skaters and goalies be on teams that either lacked the depth to go far or simply were good at the wrong time, facing just a powerhouse team in their conference.
I disagree with it even in the NBA, where stars play more minutes, cause a great player can run into the Heatles, Boston, the peak GSW, etc and miss out on their best chance to win a championship before the team has to be retooled.
That being said, I didn't watch enough hockey when Chuk played to give an opinion.
We've seen some great skaters and goalies be on teams that either lacked the depth to go far or simply were good at the wrong time, facing just a powerhouse team in their conference.
I disagree with it even in the NBA, where stars play more minutes, cause a great player can run into the Heatles, Boston, the peak GSW, etc and miss out on their best chance to win a championship before the team has to be retooled.
That being said, I didn't watch enough hockey when Chuk played to give an opinion.
BigKing
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Let's pretend that all he did was tap in rebounds and score on deflections, which isn't the case, but let's pretend anyways.
He played in an era where you had to actually have a sac to stay in front of the net to be able to tap goals in or score on deflections. Hell, it's more of a reason he should be in if he scored 400 of his goals while being hacked and roughed up on plays that weren't penalties back then but would be a major today.
