Should goalies be allowed to be NHL Captains?

[ukyo]

While it'd be an honor, it'd also be a distraction.

Making Quick the captain would be a huge mistake, not because he doesn't deserve it or can't handle it, but because that's a whole lot of non-goaltending stuff he'd have to worry about. He is the one guy where if he isn't spending 100% of his energy doing whatever he does to be at the level he is night-in and night-out, we're *****ed. Don't heap more responsibility on him and ruin his groove.

 

[Degenerate]

While it'd be an honor, it'd also be a distraction.

Making Quick the captain would be a huge mistake, not because he doesn't deserve it or can't handle it, but because that's a whole lot of non-goaltending stuff he'd have to worry about. He is the one guy where if he isn't spending 100% of his energy doing whatever he does to be at the level he is night-in and night-out, we're *****ed. Don't heap more responsibility on him and ruin his groove.

It seems that the posters that have contributed so far agree, and I'm starting to understand it

But let's go back to the fact that this rule even exists and disregard Quick for a second. It's still an outdated, dumb rule that was created because of one goalie from 50 years agos propensity for complaining and delaying the game. It's a shame.

 

[KingKopitar11*]

I got to think Kopitar is the heir apparent. Tenured King, well respected, well spoken, already part of the leadership group wearing an 'A', helped carry the team in '12, lead the team in points in what the past 7-8 years?

Carter isn't a bad choice. I love DD but he's just a little too unprofessional/unpolished IMO for that role. Need to try him out with 'A' first and see how he handles it.

The more responsibility Kopitar takes on the more passive he gets. I don't know if anyone else notices that, but he tries so hard to be a team player.

I think Doughty is the best choice. He might be a little immature, but he plays the game with the most passion on this team. Which is why I think He deserves it.

 

[jml87]

I don't think Carter would want to be captain. I mean, really the only big job of the 'captain' position anymore is talking to the media. What else is the captain in charge of? I just never really liked the whole concept. Anyone can talk to the refs, anyone can lead the team, so what's the point? It's more like media spokesman at this point.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Quick's not captain material. I don't think he does the media thing very well and all that. It's not just about the logistics of on-ice duties. You have to be a leader in the locker room and in your community. You have to deal with the media regularly. All these things. I'd rather Quick just worry about being a goalie.

If I had to pick another player besides Brown, I'd go with Doughty.

 

[Quattro]

If Brown continues this play past this season, I think they might find themselves in a position where they need to remove the C, I'd sooner see it go to Kopitar, Greene or Richards.

Unbelievable. The guy captains this team to it's first Cup in FORTY-FIVE YEARS of franchise history and people want to sweep him out the door two years later.

I'm pretty sure if you check, the same people relentlessly bagging on Brown's current play are the same one's who were badmouthing him for years before the Cup run.

 

[Arrhizal]

Stupid idea.

 

[Travtera]

Unbelievable. The guy captains this team to it's first Cup in FORTY-FIVE YEARS of franchise history and people want to sweep him out the door two years later.

I'm pretty sure if you check, the same people relentlessly bagging on Brown's current play are the same one's who were badmouthing him for years before the Cup run.

I appreciate what Brown did for us and I would take no pleasure in watching the 'C' ripped from him. I'm willing to give him time to get his game back, for sure. But if this persists past this season and we're still talking about this at this time next year, I'm sorry but something must be done. How much of a free pass are you willing to give him? Maybe it'd be a good thing? Brown is very self critical and hard on himself, I've heard. Maybe the 'C' has become a detriment to his game? Added weight he doesn't need. Above all, I just want him to find his game again. Get the confidence and respect back on the ice. I don't want it to come to this.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I appreciate what Brown did for us and I would take no pleasure in watching the 'C' ripped from him. I'm willing to give him time to get his game back, for sure. But if this persists past this season and we're still talking about this at this time next year, I'm sorry but something must be done. How much of a free pass are you willing to give him? Maybe it'd be a good thing? Brown is very self critical and hard on himself, I've heard. Maybe the 'C' has become a detriment to his game? Added weight he doesn't need. Above all, I just want him to find his game again. Get the confidence and respect back on the ice. I don't want it to come to this.

Well said. Especially the part about after this season. I'd love to see posters come up with a list of people who came back to play after a knee injury and played very well. If this is going on early next year, sure, let's revisit the conversation.

I would NEVER give that weight to Quick, even if it were legal. Just too much on his plate to worry about. Goalies have a special relationship with refs as well, and no need to strain it arguing over faceoffs, penalties, etc., never mind how we feel about Quick leaving the net .

Honestly the only player since 2012 beyond Quick who has consistently shown they have the guts to take the game by the balls is Doughty. But I don't even want to think about that sort of torch-passing yet.

 

[damacles1156]

You guys are placing way too much stock into the letters.

If Dustin Brown, Mike Richards, Slava would simply get back to normal career pace scoring standards; We are not even having this conversation.

Three important players in the Kings top spots decided to have Career worse years at even Strength scoring, and PP scoring.

it has pretty much derailed the season over the last month.

Hopefully they turn it around the last half.

Hell,

Kopitar before the last two weeks before the break, was on a second career low scoring pace of 66 points.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Some real juicy stuff in here.

 

[KingKopitar11*]

Some real juicy stuff in here.

It's because you're here now.

 

[Degenerate]

You guys are placing way too much stock into the letters.

This might be true, but it's kind of an intangible thing. I think the captain role is very important and despite Browns past contributions, which is what earned him the C in the first place, I know I am not the only one that feels there might be another player that is better suited, currently anyways.

I am hearing Doughty from a few of you, I don't think that's a bad choice at all. Not sure why no one thinks Carter is worthy though, he would also do a great job.

But let me reiterate from my 1st post, changing the C isn't going to be some kind of miracle move, but it could help. Perhaps I am being a bit harsh towards Brown though, but some kind of shake up is needed...

 

[Reclamation Project]

It's because you're here now.

You deserve a letter.

 

[jml87]

This might be true, but it's kind of an intangible thing. I think the captain role is very important and despite Browns past contributions, which is what earned him the C in the first place, I know I am not the only one that feels there might be another player that is better suited, currently anyways.

I am hearing Doughty from a few of you, I don't think that's a bad choice at all. Not sure why no one thinks Carter is worthy though, he would also do a great job.

But let me reiterate from my 1st post, changing the C isn't going to be some kind of miracle move, but it could help. Perhaps I am being a bit harsh towards Brown though, but some kind of shake up is needed...

Curious why you think Carter would be a better captain than guys like Richards, Kopitar, Brown, etc.? Carter is a good leader but he's not a media person or a public face. He's a very private guy and focuses mostly on hockey and his team in the rink and that's it. Not saying he wouldn't be a good locker room leader but I don't think he'd even be interested in it even if it was offered.

 

[Degenerate]

Curious why you think Carter would be a better captain than guys like Richards, Kopitar, Brown, etc.? Carter is a good leader but he's not a media person or a public face. He's a very private guy and focuses mostly on hockey and his team in the rink and that's it. Not saying he wouldn't be a good locker room leader but I don't think he'd even be interested in it even if it was offered.

Good question.

Richards I have the opinion is slightly overrated, and if I could trade anyone, it would be him. But on the flip side, he already has experience as a Captain with the Flyers. But of course, he was traded away, so maybe he wasn't the best at it.

Kopitar is one of my favorite players, and this season has just been a big disappointment. Still, he's a veteran and would still be a better choice than Brown.

Carter seems to be more consistent than Richards and Kopi. Then again, I don't think he has had some of the injuries in his career that they have. I would pick him over Doughty based on this season, but then again I have heard Doughty played great in the Olympics, only Canada game I watched was the one vs the US though.

The more I think about it, any of these guys I would give the C over Brown. Richards because of experience with the role, Kopi because hes a veteran, and Carter he's just good....and here's that word again....consistent.

 

[damacles1156]

Brown is not getting the C taken off his sweater.

Can we stop having these ridiculous threads.

The guy is having a terrible season, they happen to the best NHL players in the world.

Cut the guy some slack, if he sucks all of next year. Then maybe it's time to talk shop like this.

But I think Brown has earned some slack.

 

[Degenerate]

Brown is not getting the C taken off his sweater.

Can we stop having these ridiculous threads.

You know that most people think he has sucked, right? Changes like this can have positive effects on the entire team without having to trade anyone, so what's your problem?

Maybe Brown would even play better. Some accountability isn't a bad thing.

 

[damacles1156]

You know that most people think he has sucked, right? Changes like this can have positive effects on the entire team without having to trade anyone, so what's your problem?

Maybe Brown would even play better. Some accountability isn't a bad thing.

Dustin Brown has not missed 20+ goals 45 + points in his last Six years. The short season he was on that pace.

The only people that think he sucks are complete idiot fans.

The people that matter, Team mates, Kings management, understand that Brown is having a difficult season.

They happen, even the best NHL players (Crosby) have had bad seasons.

It's called a career worse year, They happen.

Brown will be back to his career normal pace next year, I truly believe that.

No one is Kings management or the locker room thinks Dustin Brown is a bad Captain or that he sucks.

 

[likid]

Kopitar is one of my favorite players, and this season has just been a big disappointment. Still, he's a veteran and would still be a better choice than Brown.

Kopitar has been disappointment this season?

 

[Degenerate]

Dustin Brown has not missed 20+ goals 45 + points Ever in his entire career. The short season he was on that pace.

The only people that think he sucks are complete idiot fans.

The people that matter, Team mates, Kings management, understand that Brown is having a difficult season.

They happen, even the best NHL players (Crosby) have had bad seasons.

It's called a career worse year, They happen.

Brown will be back to his career normal pace next year, I truly believe that.

No one is Kings management or the locker room thinks Dustin Brown is a bad Captain or that he sucks.

Will you say the same thing if next season it's the same story as this one? I guess we will have to wait and see

 

[Degenerate]

Kopitar has been disappointment this season?

Not a total one like Brown. But yeah, I heard he did bad in the Olympics too but then again he wasn't working with the best team.

It's just my opinion man, he's one of my favorite players, so maybe I'm being extra critical.

 

[damacles1156]

Will you say the same thing if next season it's the same story as this one? I guess we will have to wait and see

Sure if he is struggling all of next year, then it might be time to talk about what options the Kings have on Brown.

But one bad season out of his entire career ? No, Brown has built more credit than that.

 

[Degenerate]

Sure if he is struggling all of next year, then it might be time to talk about what options the Kings have on Brown.

But one bad season out of his entire career ? No, Brown has built more credit than that.

I'm curious what you think needs to be done with the King's to make them Stanley Cup contenders again. They aren't right now, how many games in a row did they lose before the break? 10? Minus the W right before the break started.

Something needs to be done...

 

[damacles1156]

I'm curious what you think needs to be done with the King's to make them Stanley Cup contenders again. They aren't right now, how many games in a row did they lose before the break? 10? Minus the W right before the break started.

Something needs to be done...

Nothing,

Dean Lombardi failed to adress secondary scoring and the Defense is too old.

This is basically a throw away year.

The cap goes up this off season, and the Kings will have contracts coming off the books.

Lombardi has a lot of work to do this off season.

There is no trade, no line tweak, no stripping of letters, Zip zero nada. the Kings can do this year to beat a team like Chicago.

Don't do something stupid, like give up Vey/Pearson/Toffoli hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.