Stamkos4life
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Don Cherry is one of the top 10 greatest canadians of all time!
It's sad to see so many hate the guy.
Should Don Cherry be in the HHOF?
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Don Cherry is one of the top 10 greatest canadians of all time!
It's sad to see so many hate the guy.
lol this is such a cop out argument. No shit he has, he has the means to do it unlike most of us. I’m sure compared to his peers he hasn’t don’t nearly as much. Context matters dipshit
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Stamkos4life
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This is such a cop out. If you have money you are able to donate. There are many ways to donate just $30 a month which most can afford if they cancel their disney and netiflix subsricptions.
There are many rich people who don't donate.
Show me proof Don has done less than his peers in regards to donating and supporting good causes.
I very much doubt your stance so am awaiting your links and proof.
BudBundy
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Swearing at me is a pretty good indication of the strength of your argument. Cherry is a self-made man who certainly does have the means to throw money at charities that most of us, myself included, cannot. He also could have taken his money and gone home. Or gone on vacation. Or enjoyed himself in whatever way he chose. Instead he dedicated a huge amount of his time to these charities. How much money do you think he got going to see the troops in Afghanistan or advocate for Veterans, or First Responders or Animal Welfare? He’s not a perfect human being, but he’s certainly going to leave this world in far better shape than how he found it. Show me all these peers you are referring to who have done more over the last 50 years?
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Cotton
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What did he ever say that was racist?
The problem is most people who don’t like him would spazz out when he would say stuff without getting his point. He lacks tact, always has, and most people have kind of let him off for it - which I think is fine, but without tact he manages to make what he says sound worse than what he means.
He did a podcast with Cam Janssen a year back, something he never does outside of his own. He was confronted with several of the things a certain portion of the public freaked out about. He explained himself well, he’s not racist, not anti-euro or French (his two favourite players after Bobby Orr are Bure and Lafleur). Guys patriotic and gets sensitive when he perceives our vets are being disrespected - no issues with that.
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I think he is a moron but based on his work in broadcasting I guess a good case case could be made. I am not sure what criteria people from broadcasting are judged on to be inducted though.
tarheelhockey
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Frankly that comes off as incredibly disingenuous, bordering on being an outright lie. This is a guy who spent like 20 years specifically dogging French and European players on live TV, are we supposed to act like that just didn't happen?
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Imagine having Bobby Orr, Phil Esposito, Jean Ratelle, Gary Cheevers, Johnny Bucyk, Brad Park, Rick Middelton, and Ray Bourque on your team in a span of 5 years and having 0 Stanley Cups.Geez - do a bit of research before posting such crap.
Cherry coached Boston for 5 seasons and they won 231 games during this span ( a .6575 winning pct. ) and they averaged 105 points a season. The Bruins finished 1st in the Adams Division 4 times and in 2nd place once. The Bruins lost in the SC Final twice and once in the Semi-Finals to Montreal who had arguably one of the best teams in NHL history. You might not him personally but give the guy some credit.
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I would expect you to digest what his arguments were, he has something against certain styles of play, and certain players because of these styles of play. He used to just spout off because he was biased (Russians in the 80’s for example) because there was this Cold War thing, and his sentiments at the time were commonly shared. He then had issues with players who played tough but wouldn’t fight, or did with visors ala Ulf Samuelson. These things he had issues with were far more present in Euro players 25-30 years ago. But he also chewed out Matt Cooke for being spineless, did it to his face too off camera. He feels a certain way about things and sticks to it.
Even the image you’re painting of “constantly dogging for 20 years” isn’t true. You’re implying this was something that occurred on the reg. And as far as I can recall the only two incident he got in any real shit for (outside of the last one) was his comment about the French (which he admits he shouldn’t have said). And when he backed the Canadians in that brawl with Russia at the beginning of his career, which the public largely supported him with.
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I think Don Cherry is a bigot and many of his views are not okay in the world any longer, but I still think he should get in. His hockey analysis was good, his support of the game at junior levels was always good, its the way he talks about people who aren't anglophone Canadians that is the problem. I don't know if the bad should always cancel the good.
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Imagine having a great team but having to go through a Habs team with Ken Dryden, Larry Robinson, Serge Savard, Guy Lafleur, Pete Mahovalich, Steve Shutt, Yvan Courneyer, and Bob Gainey (coached by some Bowman guy) to win a Cup.
And Cherry never coached Ray Bourque. Cherry was gone by Bourque’s rookie 1979-80 season.
ManofSteel55
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I think many in this thread are pretty concerned with getting through life on a day to day basis. Just as Cherry was when he wasn't wealthy. Look, the guy does some good things, but it doesn't mean we have to look away from the bad. It's an interesting dilemma. As I just typed in another post, I don't know if the bad should cancel the good, but the good certainly shouldn't cancel the bad.
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So again, he pretty blatantly went on television and pushed biases against French and European players for a long time. There were plenty more than two incidents of that.
If he's saying he has had some moral awakening and no longer harbors those biases, then great. All the better for him to grow out of it. But it sounds like he's saying he never had those biases in the first place... if so, then it's pretty obvious bullshit.
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There’s plenty of racists in the hall, hard to judge people from a different time. This is coming from a super left lib
Sad? It was self inflicted. He hates europeans. Especially swedes.
I hate him with a passion.
Was more accepted then... Doesn't mean we should continue now
People really need to understand that Cherry was born in the Great Depression, grew up during World War II and then lived through the height of the Cold War at a time where political correctness did not exist. There was a nuclear arms race, the Soviets were the enemy and it was an "Us against them" world dynamic. And that dynamic extended to the ice as well, see all those battles between Canada/NHL teams and the Soviets. So It's understandable that Cherry always had some prejudice against Russians, pretty much everyone did.
I had old relatives born in the 20s, they're dead now but I remember my great-uncle who was a WWII veteran, he was a big Habs fan and I used to watch hockey with him as a kid and he used to complain that the Habs didn't have enough French Canadians and he didn't like Europeans. People like my great-uncle or Don Cherry, people from those older generations grew up (and played pro hockey in Don's case) in a time where only North Americans played in the NHL and Russians/ iron curtain was perceived as the enemy. So it's understandable that they have their prejudices. They grew up in a completely different world then what we millennials know.
I had old relatives born in the 20s, they're dead now but I remember my great-uncle who was a WWII veteran, he was a big Habs fan and I used to watch hockey with him as a kid and he used to complain that the Habs didn't have enough French Canadians and he didn't like Europeans. People like my great-uncle or Don Cherry, people from those older generations grew up (and played pro hockey in Don's case) in a time where only North Americans played in the NHL and Russians/ iron curtain was perceived as the enemy. So it's understandable that they have their prejudices. They grew up in a completely different world then what we millennials know.
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