Should Cronin be fired? Yay or Nay?

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The answer Verbeek would give is the entire reason Cronin was hired (and probably the reason he won't be fired, at least until after the season). Verbeek hired Cronin to teach and develop and instill work ethic and accountability, none of which have anything to do with tactics or with being a "player's coach."

Unfortunately Cronin took that to mean he could rob Peter to pay Paul and not be accountable for an abysmal offense.

 

[JAHV]

Unfortunately Cronin took that to mean he could rob Peter to pay Paul and not be accountable for an abysmal offense.

Again, I'm not going to defend his coaching ability; he seems like a pretty terrible offensive coach. But I don't think this has anything to do with Cronin not being accountable. The only one Cronin is accountable to is Verbeek and if Verbeek thinks Cronin is doing a great job instilling work ethic and good practice habits into these guys, then Cronin's meeting the standards that were set for him.

Verbeek is ultimately accountable for the product on the ice, but he's not the one who has to answer questions after each game. As fans, it sucks to watch. But I think we just have to wear the frustration. There's no way we can test what Cronin is actually being asked to do since it's all behind the scenes.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Again, I'm not going to defend his coaching ability; he seems like a pretty terrible offensive coach. But I don't think this has anything to do with Cronin not being accountable. The only one Cronin is accountable to is Verbeek and if Verbeek thinks Cronin is doing a great job instilling work ethic and good practice habits into these guys, then Cronin's meeting the standards that were set for him.

Verbeek is ultimately accountable for the product on the ice, but he's not the one who has to answer questions after each game. As fans, it sucks to watch. But I think we just have to wear the frustration. There's no way we can test what Cronin is actually being asked to do since it's all behind the scenes.

Cronin is just Verbeek's avatar on the bench.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Again, I'm not going to defend his coaching ability; he seems like a pretty terrible offensive coach. But I don't think this has anything to do with Cronin not being accountable. The only one Cronin is accountable to is Verbeek and if Verbeek thinks Cronin is doing a great job instilling work ethic and good practice habits into these guys, then Cronin's meeting the standards that were set for him.

Verbeek is ultimately accountable for the product on the ice, but he's not the one who has to answer questions after each game. As fans, it sucks to watch. But I think we just have to wear the frustration. There's no way we can test what Cronin is actually being asked to do since it's all behind the scenes.

Well obviously we don’t know the details of any conversations but my point being that nobody is hired to only do half the job. Winning still has to be part of the teaching equation. Even with an emphasis on the things you outline, it’s crazy to listen to Cronin have absolutely nothing to say about how to develop the offensive skills many of these kids have. It’s almost like he doesn’t think that’s part of his job.

 

[JAHV]

Well obviously we don’t know the details of any conversations but my point being that nobody is hired to only do half the job. Winning still has to be part of the teaching equation. Even with an emphasis on the things you outline, it’s crazy to listen to Cronin have absolutely nothing to say about how to develop the offensive skills many of these kids have. It’s almost like he doesn’t think that’s part of his job.

I think Cronin might very well have been hired to do half the job. Or, at least, that was his main goal and winning was secondary. So he might not think it's part of it's job because Verbeek didn't emphasize it as part of his main goals.

I also don't think Cronin was hired to speak well to the media after games. I'm with everyone else who is annoyed at the less than stellar play on the ice and the lack of progress from some guys who are supposedly pretty talented hockey players. But I just can't bring myself to care about what he says postgame. It doesn't matter.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I think Cronin might very well have been hired to do half the job. Or, at least, that was his main goal and winning was secondary. So he might not think it's part of it's job because Verbeek didn't emphasize it as part of his main goals.

I also don't think Cronin was hired to speak well to the media after games. I'm with everyone else who is annoyed at the less than stellar play on the ice and the lack of progress from some guys who are supposedly pretty talented hockey players. But I just can't bring myself to care about what he says postgame. It doesn't matter.

I watch every third or fourth of his post game pressers now. If he says something really stupid (based on others' comments) I'll maybe go back and watch it, otherwise I can't deal with him anymore.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Let's say we do can Cronin? Who do you go for? I would go after galant

 

[HanSolo]

Let's say we do can Cronin? Who do you go for? I would go after galant

I wouldn't. Would be the same shit as far as youth development is concerned.