Should Cronin be fired? Yay or Nay?

[WhyVerbeekWhy]

Voted yes to can his ass, but definitely don't expect it to happen until MAYBE in the offseason.

First, we do not know what his mission from above was. Maybe it was strictly waste this year developing certain defensive habits and ignore offense until they get those things right to his satisfaction.

Second, unless he is bag skating the players to death or sneaking into their rooms and beating their legs with bars of soap; they need some accountability as well. You don't go from skating like the wind and forechecking non-stop in a couple games, to being literal statues who only move backwards the next bunch of games.

This tells me they are dogging it on purpose to try and get the coach fired.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

He absolutely should go. You can still start improving mid season with a positive change. But I would agree that Verbeek is too stubborn and will let Cronin f*** up the whole season before doing anything about it.

 

[emptynetter3]

He absolutely should go. You can still start improving mid season with a positive change. But I would agree that Verbeek is too stubborn and will let Cronin f*** up the whole season before doing anything about it.

agree...and the sad part is he really needs to take a microscope to this team and there is still time on this season to make a run.....I think if there was another coach brought in (a ESTABLISHED NHL coach) who expected to win, verbeek would be able to get a better sense of who we can go forward with and without....they cant afford to just piss away another season, and if it stays the way it is then going into next season you are 6 months behind (hopefully) where you could have been......in other words, he needs to be going into this off-season without ANY question marks on or about the current team. it was a bad call to bring in a coach who is trying to prove himself at the NHL level, trying to coach players doing the same thing...this is why IMO there is such a stagnant vibe around this team, no ones how to take the next step and bringing in "vets" to do a coaches job doesn't work anymore

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

agree...and the sad part is he really needs to take a microscope to this team and there is still time on this season to make a run.....I think if there was another coach brought in (a ESTABLISHED NHL coach) who expected to win, verbeek would be able to get a better sense of who we can go forward with and without....they cant afford to just piss away another season, and if it stays the way it is then going into next season you are 6 months behind (hopefully) where you could have been......in other words, he needs to be going into this off-season without ANY question marks on or about the current team. it was a bad call to bring in a coach who is trying to prove himself at the NHL level, trying to coach players doing the same thing...this is why IMO there is such a stagnant vibe around this team, no ones how to take the next step and bringing in "vets" to do a coaches job doesn't work anymore

Exactly. Time shouldn’t be lost in acknowledging a change is needed and moving quickly. Even letting an assistant finish the season while providing new direction is a step forward.

Of course depending upon how much coaching blame belongs to Cronin vs Verbeek could heavily influence a decision to forge ahead, status quo.

 

[eaterfan]

Yes.

The Ducks will not win a Stanley Cup with him at the helm.

The young guys are for the most part taking a step back.

If you can't win and you can't develop talent, then there is no reason to keep him.

 

[Leonardo87]

One good game doesn’t change my mind. Even a blind squirrel can find his nuts once in awhile.

 

[ohcomeonref]

I don't know how anyone voted anything other than "Yes."

 

[Leonardo87]

My mind is still not changed.

Cronin should be buying Dostal a nice steak dinner. Saved his ass yet again last night.

He won’t be let go mid-season but it Verbeek really wants these kids to progress to the next level his next hire should be Someone with NHL experience.

These last two games prove that the Ducks have enough skill to win games but they still need to control the shots against.

Also, I thought Cronin was clueless but how can you take Gauthier off the PP for Killorn who was never good there in his career and his way past his prime. I get that’s Clune’s decision but I’m sure Cronin has a say in that . He is the head coach.

 

[Leonardo87]

Please fire him!!!!

 

[Dostwall]

Cronin is such an embarrassment to the organization. And if Verbeek is afraid to fire him, he too should be on the chopping block.

 

[KelVarnsen]

 

[Boo Boo]

unless there are some unfathomably large off ice improvements that aren’t showing up in game yet you have to at least be looking for someone better - I don’t think he’s going anywhere though

 

[dracom]

cronin should be arrested for hockey terrorism.

 

[MMC]

Repeating what I said in the other thread:

Playoffs were within reach then these guys go out on the road and play lifeless hockey, I ain’t letting them off the hook and placing it all in the head coach

 

[Hey234]

Repeating what I said in the other thread:

Playoffs were within reach then these guys go out in the road and play lifeless hockey, I ain’t letting them off the hook and placing it all in the head coach

Or is this the players making a statement that Cronin has lost the room, and they want him fired?

 

[MMC]

Or is this the players making a statement that Cronin has lost the room, and they want him fired?

This group of players hasn’t shown anything to make them above this team’s current place in the standings so if that were the case (I don’t believe it is) we’d have a pretty big problem on our hands

 

[Leonardo87]

This group of players hasn’t shown anything to make them above this team’s current place in the standings so if that were the case (I don’t believe it is) we’d have a pretty big problem on our hands

I agree, I don’t think he has lost the room. Cronin just has no F’ing clue what he is doing or know how to adjust. The skill on this team has proven to win games but the inconsistency, I feel it’s more on the system/coaching than the players. Sure the players get some blame but when your leader doesn’t have a clue, it’s hard to find consistent success.

 

[Tecumseh]

Honestly, at this point, whoever says no is trolling

 

[KaseMeOutside]

The way Carlsson and Mintyukov are developing should be grounds alone to fire him beyond all the other problems

 

[MCB]

Honestly, at this point, whoever says no is trolling

Or has a really good dealer.

 

[Johnnyduck]

For the love of god, get me off this ride. He isn’t it.

 

[GermanRocket7]

Cronin has absolutely no idea what to do, and it hurts our players' developments. His inability to spark a fire in our players and tactical deficiencies alone ought to be legal grounds for termination of the contract, and the eye test on many, many games should be grounds for indemnity for season ticket holders.

I suspect all of Kariya, Selanne, Niedermayer et al who were allegedly brought in to support PV in his search for a new HC did not really have a say in the decision and were simple nodding slaves.

Cronin is an absolute muppet and he needs to be shown the door yesterday.

 

[Dryish]

I suspect all of Kariya, Selanne, Niedermayer et al who were allegedly brought in to support PV in his search for a new HC did not really have a say in the decision and were simple nodding slaves.

Or maybe they're just not very good judges of coaching talent? Scotty is smart, that much we know, but Selänne has proved himself to be an utterly vapid blockhead when it comes to literally anything the last few years, and we barely know anything about Paul. Our fanbase has way too much trust in our former stars.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Repeating what I said in the other thread:

Playoffs were within reach then these guys go out on the road and play lifeless hockey, I ain’t letting them off the hook and placing it all in the head coach

That's fair. In the end I don't think anyone should be pointing to any particular short stretch (ie small sample) of the season as their evidence of why he should or shouldn't go - it's a bigger picture decision.

Personally I just don't have faith that he's the guy to help our key young players reach their potential. Nor do I think he has this group playing cohesively compared to what I see from other NHL clubs. A lot of the success we've had, has been propped up by goaltending and a sudden surge in timely scoring. We are still much worse than we ought to be.