Post-Game Talk: Shooting Stars, Jets win 5-1

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Once the analytics and HFboards-darling Ehlers comes back, everything will be enhanced. More problems than not will be solved. He drives a line like nobody's business; everyone has to carry Kyle Connor. No one is better than "exiting the defensive zone" and "entering the offensive zone" than Ehlers. Most underrated Jet, Ehlers.

He never disappears for long stretches of time, he's a phenominal two-way player, he's an excellent playoff performer, he'll someday crack the 30 goal and 70 point barrier; he's not just another blend of Pat Elyniuk and Nelson Emerson.

We're in Year 8 with him, it's time for all of the pretenders to get out of the way, and let Ehlers reach his full potential.

I'd love to see Ehlers drive that Scheifele/Perfetti line; 3 centers. Ehlers is so good in the trenches, along the board, doing all the little things necessary to winning. Dropping the gloves every 2nd year, taking dives every other game, the things that produce winning ways.

The guy's phenominal!

WTF

 

[tbcwpg]

Once the analytics and HFboards-darling Ehlers comes back, everything will be enhanced. More problems than not will be solved. He drives a line like nobody's business; everyone has to carry Kyle Connor. No one is better than "exiting the defensive zone" and "entering the offensive zone" than Ehlers. Most underrated Jet, Ehlers.

He never disappears for long stretches of time, he's a phenominal two-way player, he's an excellent playoff performer, he'll someday crack the 30 goal and 70 point barrier; he's not just another blend of Pat Elyniuk and Nelson Emerson.

We're in Year 8 with him, it's time for all of the pretenders to get out of the way, and let Ehlers reach his full potential.

I'd love to see Ehlers drive that Scheifele/Perfetti line; 3 centers. Ehlers is so good in the trenches, along the board, doing all the little things necessary to winning. Dropping the gloves every 2nd year, taking dives every other game, the things that produce winning ways.

The guy's phenominal!

You probably thought Enstrom was bad too, didn't you?

 

[DRW204]

Once the analytics and HFboards-darling Ehlers comes back, everything will be enhanced. More problems than not will be solved. He drives a line like nobody's business; everyone has to carry Kyle Connor. No one is better than "exiting the defensive zone" and "entering the offensive zone" than Ehlers. Most underrated Jet, Ehlers.

He never disappears for long stretches of time, he's a phenominal two-way player, he's an excellent playoff performer, he'll someday crack the 30 goal and 70 point barrier; he's not just another blend of Pat Elyniuk and Nelson Emerson.

We're in Year 8 with him, it's time for all of the pretenders to get out of the way, and let Ehlers reach his full potential.

I'd love to see Ehlers drive that Scheifele/Perfetti line; 3 centers. Ehlers is so good in the trenches, along the board, doing all the little things necessary to winning. Dropping the gloves every 2nd year, taking dives every other game, the things that produce winning ways.

The guy's phenominal!

A+ first post

 

[Atoyot]

Another random thought: I feel like the high tempo high aggression game helps players' decision making overall. They need to read and make plays in tight quarters instead of falling back into formation now and I feel like that's just good practice for making plays when the other team does the same. Jets used to fall apart when they played against teams that forechecked hard even if they weren't the most talented. Still fell apart against Vegas mind you but the change won't come overnight.

How they practice will also factor into this. If Maurice had his defending unit fall back and his offensive guys had all the room in the world to operate during practice, it makes sense that they had problems with an active forecheck for so many years. If Bowness is practicing at a higher tempo and with more pressure on the offensive units then they'll get more practice making plays when there's pressure on them and I feel like that's starting to show. Last night was some of the best passing I've seen in years from this team.

A+ first post

Quickest ignore I've ever done

 

[Adam da bomb]

He was brutal last night

I thought he was alright. I just like the mix more than another small guy.

 

[Atoyot]

I thought he was alright. I just like the mix more than another small guy.

His good plays have been many but quiet and his bad plays have been few but loud. I think that's been skewing some perception. Overall I think he's been really good. Not as safe as he was last season but the defensive unit as a whole is playing a different game and there will be mistakes as they transition to that game.

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[None]

That's a strange decision. Not sure what to make of it. It's giving off the vibes of the Dallas line construction last season where the vast majority of their offense was from their top line of Robertson-Hintz-Pavelski.

 

[surixon]

Strange and I don't like it. Wheeler isn't good enough to drive a line from the middle any longer. Appelton is OK as a compliment but I really dislike that second line.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

HUH

 

[Atoyot]

Maybe Bowness liked only having one line that can reliably score in Dallas a little too much...

 

[10Ducky10]

I don't really care who the center is but Perfetti needs a goal scorer on his line.

Also, the Jets have been good of late but they have lots of opportunities to practice. After this next road trip they are basically playing a game almost every other night. It will be interesting to see how they do during that stretch of the schedule/

 

[gojetsgo]

Strange and I don't like it. Wheeler isn't good enough to drive a line from the middle any longer. Appelton is OK as a compliment but I really dislike that second line.

my thinking is they only go to it if were down late in a game and need a goal, I don't think they will start a game with it

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

But... But.....didn't the Jets just run it back? Wasn't that supposed to be the definition of insanity? Hello Hustler, hello Drew Mindell (most vocal) hello Brandon Rewucki, (next most vocal)hello Jeff Hamilton? Hello many HF jets members.....wait no ..correction, It's was actually *worse* than running it back with losing Copp and Stastny - replaced by mere waiver garbage and NHL castoffs/fringers

People kept dismissing the Sutter example . And also What Trotz did in NY after Taveres left. '"yeah it worked for Calgary but with this team ...nah wont work here. and it would different, " umm Why?
I know it's still early, but man this is exhibit A so far on how a new coach and new system CAN turn things around.

Looking good so far - but I'll save the serving of crow for a while yet. But I'll take it quite happily if this kind of play becomes the norm.

 

[Deno]

I don't really care who the center is but Perfetti needs a goal scorer on his line.

Also, the Jets have been good of late but they have lots of opportunities to practice. After this next road trip they are basically playing a game almost every other night. It will be interesting to see how they do during that stretch of the schedule/

Agree.
This lack of games at the beginning of the season was exactly what the team needed to learn and practice their new systems. These last 3 game the Jets look good but starting next week we are going to see if this year's version of the Jets is the real deal or are they just pretenders. Hopefully they are the real thing.

 

[Channelcat]

I'm guessing it's just to get Wheeler a few reps at C......just in case.

I hope.

 

[DRW204]

I'm guessing it's just to get Wheeler a few reps at C......just in case.

I hope.

shouldn't that be perfetti at this point?

 

[Jet]

I hope to god this isn't a thing

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think besides a very noticeable mishandling of the puck early that led to a chance, that he was solid.

Whenever I noticed him, he was making a good play. The rest of the time he was mostly invisible. Yes there might have been 1 or 2 gaffes, but mostly he was good. He started the play in the neutral zone that lead to (I think) Scheifele's 2nd goal.

He is still a rookie and he is going to make some mistakes.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

A good lesson on how these dashboards are practically useless on a game by game basis. The data being use is so polluted there's no way to garner much of anything from them.

It's funny because the fancy stats community rails against +/- due to the imperfections with measurement, yet they seem to herald stuff like this that is in some cases worse.

It is all about sample size. A lot of people really don't seem to understand this issue. They acknowledge that this stat or the other stat is not reliable in small sample sizes - and then they use it in tiny sample sizes.

When a stat relies on volume of data to make it useful it is often not just that the stat becomes less reliable, has longer error bars, but that it is completely useless in small samples. +/- OTOH, does not benefit much from even huge samples. It is just a bad stat.

 

[JetsFan815]

my thinking is they only go to it if were down late in a game and need a goal, I don't think they will start a game with it

Yeah I am thinking it's a "nuclear option" type thing if they really need a goal and the lines aren't really going. Lowry used to run that line after PKs.

 

[Gm0ney]

This is the first time in a few seasons that the Jets gameplan doesn't seem to absolutely depend on getting Vezina level goaltending - although it sure doesn't hurt to be getting it anyway...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Love how Dillon super-sized Dellandreas face

Dillon has 3" and 25 lbs on Dellandrea. It was a mismatch.

 

[Flyby]

Not sure I’ve ever seen Saku smile

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

shouldn't that be perfetti at this point?

This post killed brain cells.