Caeldan
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Two of those actually were not even elected to the house of commons apparently!
OT: Shooting at Parliament
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Two of those actually were not even elected to the house of commons apparently!
Vesa Awesaka
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No, i understand this. Just wanted it to be clear to people that you vote for a party not the man who heads the party
BonkTastic
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Jesus ****, that creates 50x more problems than it solves.
Go to Texas if you want a concealed weapons permit. No ****ing thank you.
Never. Not in a million ****ing years. No. **** that. Worst idea in this entire thread, by a factor of a thousand.
ckg927
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Which happened in the UK a few years ago, when Tony Blair up and quit as PM, only to see Gordon Brown replace him as PM.
StefanW
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Please tell me you are just making a bad joke poking ironic fun at the moronic logic you see in arguments stemming from the hard core right in the USA.
Nac Mac Feegle
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Yeah, he was going to throw some dynamite into the House form the upstairs gallery. Fortunately, he screwed up in his prepwork of the explosives while in the bathroom and blew up himself (and the bathroom) instead.
My father was on the first floor at the time and heard the boom. He was also on the Hill during the bus hijacking and tons of false alarms. I'm glad he retired before 911...I'd hate to have a family member up there in the last 13 years.
If I wanted to go on a killing spree, the first thing I would do is register my weapon.
No, not really.
While I'm not on the rooftop screaming guns for all!, I'm not going to sit here and believe having any kind of registry for weapons would change anything. Someone who wants to go on a rampage or use a weapon in a crime will always find a way to get said weapon no matter what we do.
It's sad to say, but I'd much rather the lone wolf nut use guns as the weapon of choice over something like chemical warfare or bombs. Reason being, we've seen so many of the wannabe Rambos, that it's possible to develop some sort of a survival strategy or change to get through it. Not much you can do if someone sends anthrax through the air system of your building, mails you poison in the mail to kill you, or plants a bomb under your desk.
Pretty gaddamned sad world we live in when people even have to think about stuff like this though.
BonkTastic
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Happened to us a ton as well.
Mulrooney-to-Campbell
Pearson-to-Trudeau
Mackenzie King-to-St.Laurent
Borden-to-Meighen
Macdonald-to-Abbott-to-Thompson-to-Bowell-to-Tupper ( <--- ...jesus...)
StefanW
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Wasn't the last one Cretien stepping down and Paul Martin coming in for a short stint?
saskriders
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Now that you mention it, I think that whoever the party leader is for the governing party is prime minister. I think we have had some provincial opposition leaders (and maybe even premiers) that haven't been in parliament, recently.
BonkTastic
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Jesus, I don't know how I forgot that one...
I also forgot about Trudeau-to-Turner.
It's a common theme in Cdn politics.
Nac Mac Feegle
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Sounds like the scene from a slapstick comedy.
That's probably the dream of the wannabe rambos out there. In reality,most people with a permit to conceal (or even an illegal gun) would be cowering like rabbits in the corner.
Sounds like the scene from a slapstick comedy.
That's probably the dream of the wannabe rambos out there. In reality,most people with a permit to conceal (or even an illegal gun) would be cowering like rabbits in the corner.
You don't get a permit because you ask nicely. You get one after you have sufficient training and have passed the required tests. There are plenty of situations where they have saved lives in the US.
Caeldan
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CCW discussion is not really appropriate for this forum.
Let's just leave it where it is, and recognize the fact that police were on the scene within minutes (heck the one video I saw shows them entering behind him less than a minute later). Having several random people with loaded weapons who are not tactically trained and large number of innocent bystanders is not a good idea. Especially with police on scene trying to determine which armed citizen is actually the one to be concerned about.
Let's just leave it where it is, and recognize the fact that police were on the scene within minutes (heck the one video I saw shows them entering behind him less than a minute later). Having several random people with loaded weapons who are not tactically trained and large number of innocent bystanders is not a good idea. Especially with police on scene trying to determine which armed citizen is actually the one to be concerned about.
Nac Mac Feegle
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Training is great....but don't forget about human psychology.
We can all talk big about being the hero and saving lives, but when things start to happen, most civilians will be too scared to do anything.
Heck, most people won't even recognize that is gunfire at first because real life gunfire is totally different from what you hear in video games, tv and movies and all that.
BondraTime
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I honestly can't believe some people are for concealed weapons. How in the world is that possible after seeing the problems they cause? Mind-boggling.
Im fine with more security on parliament. Thats not what I'm worried about.
I dont want a system like the US or Australia have. Its no longer a democracy or free country.
Judging by Harpers past actions and what he's said, thats exactly what he wants.
Love Steve Paikin. Best TV host ever. Never sensationalizes, never interrupts (looking at you, Rita Celli and co on CBC radio!), looks at all the angles, doesn't let the interviewee get away with BS, and yet is always courteous.
I missed today's agenda though. I'll have to watch a re-run, I guess.
What the hell are you talking about. He said nothing to that effect. This just happened, stop freaking out about our freedoms and liberties being taken away. We have always had these threats. The via rail terror plot the Toronto 18.
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No politician would out right say it.
This isn't a reaction to what happened. I was already under the belief that this is inevitable.
Sun God Nika
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Look if Harper ever did try to pass a bill that would take away our freedoms or invade our privacy. I would be the first to protest it and him. We need more bipartisanship in this country especially after this.
Lets not lose focus on what took place. Extreme Islamic fundamentalist are a serious threat that must not be taken lightly.
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Are you referring to the shooter? Zehaf-Bibeau?
The same guy who tried to rob a McDonalds with a stick so that he could go to prison because he thought it would get him clean from his crack addiction? The same guy that many in the system thought had a severe mental disorder?
I hope you'll pardon me if I think of the events on Parliament as less of an "Islamist threat", and more of a sad, mentally and socially unstable individual who fell through the cracks.
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