Shea Theodore Out Until Playoffs

[hockeyguy0022]

I've heard reports Stones also banged up, going to tough out the 4 nations, but looking to see how it is week to week until around playoff time.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Eichel and Stone have a blood pact to injure each other tonight , but only bad enough to LTIR until playoffs

 

[WhataKnight]

Cool, what about the other times players managed to un-LTIR themselves for Game 1?

When it happens every single year, and a “week to week” diagnosis is all of a sudden flipped to “out until playoffs,” the plausible deniability starts to wash away.

Pietrangelo appears to be the next guy telegraphed for LTIR.

Stone missed the end of two seasons from back injuries (historically known) and the spleen (and he was visibly not ready on that return). Both Eichel & Hertl had legit surgery.

What players “un-LTIR’d” themselves outside of valid cases where guys (Stone & Eichel notably) returned to play before being 100%? Hertl played a few regular season games and still wasn’t ready last year.

As for Theodore, his injury happened literally on the world stage and Knights fans aren’t hanging streamers and bunting over it. If the Playoffs are in 6-8 weeks, they could say that or Playoffs and it would amount to the same. Who rushes back to play games 81 & 82 to finish 9th place?

I’m literally curious who you mean, as I’d like to dodge another narrative reaching Mandela Effect proportions like Stone’s health last PO’s clearly did.

 

[hangman005]

Stone missed the end of two seasons from back injuries (historically known) and the spleen (and he was visibly not ready on that return). Both Eichel & Hertl had legit surgery.

What players “un-LTIR’d” themselves outside of valid cases where guys (Stone & Eichel notably) returned to play before being 100%? Hertl played a few regular season games and still wasn’t ready last year.

As for Theodore, his injury happened literally on the world stage and Knights fans aren’t hanging streamers and bunting over it. If the Playoffs are in 6-8 weeks, they could say that or Playoffs and it would amount to the same. Who rushes back to play games 81 & 82 to finish 9th place?

I’m literally curious who you mean, as I’d like to dodge another narrative reaching Mandela Effect proportions like Stone’s health last PO’s clearly did.

Stone has missed the end of two seasons, due to being on LTIR. Some how this narrative exists that 3 years in a row Stone was LTIR to end end the season and was magically healthy for game one of the playoffs. Everyone completely ignores the fact that the first year he was credited for doing this... he was back and had be playing for a week, a week and a half before the season. I mean if people want to hate Vegas and Mark Stone, they are free to do.

21/22 Stone gets injured around Jan/Feb. Is back BEFORE the season ends
22/23 Stone gets injured around Jan/Feb is not back before the season ends.... team was cap compliant in the playoffs anyhow.
23/24 Stone gets injured around Jan/Feb is not back before the season ends.... really shouldn't have been back for the first round regardless.

People can't even get the basic tenants of their complaints factually correct, all they've really shown is stone is old man whose body breaks down several months into the season.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Vegas fans are mentally lawyering up over this and prepared to die on this hill together in an effort to cope with cheering for a team of scumbags.

It's ridiculous, and you guys aren't going to argue us out of thinking what Vegas is doing is shitty.

 

[hangman005]

Vegas fans are mentally lawyering up over this and prepared to die on this hill together in an effort to cope with cheering for a team of scumbags.

It's ridiculous, and you guys aren't going to argue us out of thinking what Vegas is doing is shitty.

I mean it's clearly obvious... facts don't seem to matter. That said you don't need invent lies to hate Vegas, you can do it for any reason, or no reason at all.

 

[WhataKnight]

I’d even say that it’s shittier that WE LOST A TOP DEFENSEMAN.

Silly kids acting like the Knights asked for this.

 

[WhataKnight]

Pettiness aside, this isn’t good for the Knights.

I’m more concerned about Theodore’s wrist than trying to replace the guy. You don’t replace his contribution easily, and I’d rather just have the Knights standard top-6 than trying to replace ST. I liked it as-is.

 

[K1984]

Stone missed the end of two seasons from back injuries (historically known) and the spleen (and he was visibly not ready on that return). Both Eichel & Hertl had legit surgery.

What players “un-LTIR’d” themselves outside of valid cases where guys (Stone & Eichel notably) returned to play before being 100%? Hertl played a few regular season games and still wasn’t ready last year.

As for Theodore, his injury happened literally on the world stage and Knights fans aren’t hanging streamers and bunting over it. If the Playoffs are in 6-8 weeks, they could say that or Playoffs and it would amount to the same. Who rushes back to play games 81 & 82 to finish 9th place?

I’m literally curious who you mean, as I’d like to dodge another narrative reaching Mandela Effect proportions like Stone’s health last PO’s clearly did.

Whatever you want to tell yourself.

 

[WhataKnight]

Whatever you want to tell yourself.

What, that history happened and some people can’t interpret it properly?

Specifically, who un-LTIR’d themselves? Answer the question.

 

[SensontheRush]

Swing and a miss.

Chicago opened this can of worms with Kane way back when

Tampa was still the most blatantly obvious example, having Kucherov wait for surgery until a couple weeks before the start of the season where rehab would time perfectly with being ready for game 1 of playoffs. He had all offseason to get surgery, but would've been ready well before playoffs.

Vegas is hardly the first team to do this, and won't be the last.


??

How many years in a row will take for you to change your tune? This is three years in a row now, which already seems significant to me.

Arguably four years in a row considering they attempted to trade a player by exploiting a perceived voided NTC without talking to the player's agent. It just didn't work out that time. Obviously, that's a different context, but a continuation of their pattern of behaviour.

 

[K1984]

What, that history happened and some people can’t interpret it properly?

Specifically, who un-LTIR’d themselves? Answer the question.

Calm down.

The Oilers are currently doing the same thing with Kane, I’m just not so obtuse that I need to piece mental math together to defend it.

 

[WhataKnight]

Calm down.

The Oilers are currently doing the same thing with Kane, I’m just not so obtuse that I need to piece mental math together to defend it.

Tell that to others in here.

I’d still like to know which players chose their own time to come off LTIR.

If it’s something to accuse Vegas players of, examples help.

 

[K1984]

Tell that to others in here.

I’d still like to know which players chose their own time to come off LTIR.

If it’s something to accuse Vegas players of, examples help.

Literally every single player that is on LTIR on Game 82, but isn’t on LTIR for Game 1 has chosen their own time to come off LTIR whether they play for your favorite team or not.

Tell that to others in here.

I’d still like to know which players chose their own time to come off LTIR.

If it’s something to accuse Vegas players of, examples help.

Literally every single player that is on LTIR on Game 82, but isn’t on LTIR for Game 1 has chosen their own time to come off LTIR whether they play for your favorite team or not.

 

[WhataKnight]

Literally every player on LTIR in game 82? That includes the whole league.

Still looking for evidence of Vegas players “un-LTIR-ing” themselves egregiously.

Going once…..twice???

Somebody prove this without a hitch. I’ll wait.

Quest que c'est un-LTIR?

CITE IT. I want concrete, undeniable evidence.

Let’s see it folks - stand by the narrative.

 

[NextGoalIsHuge]

I'm a fan of a team frequently hated, derided or pitied....take your own choice, at your own leisure.

That said, the degree of hate generated by Vegas anti-fans is remarkable. Despite what some would reeeeally like to believe, VGK is not able to arbitrarily manipulate the LTIR option by faking medical reports. these are vetted. As Bush-league as the NHL appears at times, its way more legit than it was decades ago.

Eventually, Vegas will succumb to the realities of franchise existence and find themselves at the bottom of the standings and rebuild. When will that be? I dunno. Though as a division rival I will be watching to see how their fans come to grips with their inevitable mediocrity.

TBH, If I'm a fan of the Knights, i'm more worried about Theodore's recovery than I am trying to cook the books. I, for one, really do not like seeing players injured during these extracurricular events.

 

[WhataKnight]

I'm a fan of a team frequently hated, derided or pitied....take your own choice, at your own leisure.

That said, the degree of hate generated by Vegas anti-fans is remarkable. Despite what some would reeeeally like to believe, VGK is not able to arbitrarily manipulate the LTIR option by faking medical reports. these are vetted. As Bush-league as the NHL appears at times, its way more legit than it was decades ago.

Eventually, Vegas will succumb to the realities of franchise existence and find themselves at the bottom of the standings and rebuild. When will that be? I dunno. Though as a division rival I will be watching to see how their fans come to grips with their inevitable mediocrity.

TBH, If I'm a fan of the Knights, i'm more worried about Theodore's recovery than I am trying to cook the books. I, for one, really do not like seeing players injured during these extracurricular events.

At least twice in this thread I’ve said as much. We lost a top-D in an exhibition tourney; this isn’t a confetti moment.

 

[WhataKnight]

How many years in a row will take for you to change your tune? This is three years in a row now, which already seems significant to me.

Arguably four years in a row considering they attempted to trade a player by exploiting a perceived voided NTC without talking to the player's agent. It just didn't work out that time. Obviously, that's a different context, but a continuation of their pattern of behaviour.

The Dadonov incident was three things; unfortunate, awkward, and determined by the league to be more Pierre Dorion’s fault than Kelly McCrimmon’s.

 

[Bizz]

oh look it's the thing that keeps happening every single year.

the time to start docking these frauds was 4 years ago.

 

[SensontheRush]

The Dadonov incident was three things; unfortunate, awkward, and determined by the league to be more Pierre Dorion’s fault than Kelly McCrimmon’s.

Dorion's ineptitude doesn't change my accurate description of what occurred.

 

[WhataKnight]

Dorion's ineptitude doesn't change my accurate description of what occurred.

Accurate as aspects may be, the injuries to players are also factual.

(The gif wasn’t to you, though- I was trying to add humour to the thread.)

Stone’s injury pattern does include Ottawa, for the record. This isn’t a Vegas-specific thing. Needs to be pointed out.

 

[JKG33]

How many years in a row will take for you to change your tune? This is three years in a row now, which already seems significant to me.

Arguably four years in a row considering they attempted to trade a player by exploiting a perceived voided NTC without talking to the player's agent. It just didn't work out that time. Obviously, that's a different context, but a continuation of their pattern of behaviour.

I won't. What's there to change? They're not doing anything wrong. Full stop. Just because 90% of people here are wrong, doesn't mean I'm gunna join ya'll

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

 

[WhataKnight]

I’d love it if the news on the injury turned out to be overblown smoke & mirrors.

Said it elsewhere in the thread - I prefer the Knights top-6 as-is (plus Korczak as #7 - didn’t need to say that in previous post.)

The only missing pieces (sans injuries and in my opinion only) are a shooter next to Jack - as Marchessault was, and a better balance in goal - as Thompson was. That’s it.

There was continuity on this roster when healthy. It looked killer on paper and in practice, it was cap compliant, and I preferred it.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

VEG has the best Dr's. They can pinpoint his injury right to game 1