bleedblue1223
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Eklund Rumor: Shattenkirk talks heating up. Krejci involved??
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Except that isn't even close to the case.
You'll notice the first 2 replies are critical of the source, but also contribute to the discussion and are left there. The problem is that people come into threads about Eklund rumours to do nothing but complain about the source. Whether people like it or not, others want to discuss this stuff. If posts aren't contributing then they'll get deleted.
I can't believe this needs to be constantly spelt out.
It is absolutely the case. Other threads that have trade rumors based on a tweet from a little known reporter get responses asking "who is this guy" and nothing else. Then replies saying "he is/isn't a good source" and nothing else.
Threads about lastwordonsports articles get responses saying "these guys are/arent very good" and nothing else.
Threads about NHL.com articles get coments saying only "groan!" about a pun in the title, and nothing else.
But if someone groans about Eklund there is a tidal wave of moderators saying to leave it alone.
There is a reason "consider the source" is a well known quote. And the source of a rumor is a legitimate a point in the thread conversation.
EastonBlues22
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Again, questioning the source is not a problem as long as it's done in a way that actually contributes to the conversation. If it's not doing that, it's just spam/OT crap that clutters things up for those who are actually interested in discussing something.
Another thing to consider is the scope of the problem. Moderators have better things to do than clean up every last post that falls short of our standards in some way (every post that contains just a smiley, or just an image, or just a meme, or everything that's OT, etc.).
We're volunteers with a finite amount of time, and that time is best spent dealing with the most significant problems we can. A couple of "groan" type posts about a pun that the conversation moves right on past isn't going to move the needle for us nearly as much as thread where every other post is actively derailing the conversation...which is what we routinely find in Eklund threads.
This particular discussion is now derailing this thread as well, so it ends here. If you have any further questions you can send me a PM.
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So anyway...back to the actual topic.
Here's what Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford said today about Shatty:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hock...tent=E3C94A6B91A0A70BC43A41FF55326604055E75F5
Here's what Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford said today about Shatty:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hock...tent=E3C94A6B91A0A70BC43A41FF55326604055E75F5
So Blues beatwriter Jeremy Rutherford mentioned in his recent chat that something is definitely up with the Blues and Bruins. Krejci just makes no sense so it would have to be a bigger trade but he said to keep an eye on this because there is definitely something up.
Given the lack of offense the Bruins has should they really be moving Krejci? I don't think adding Shattenkirk will offset losing Krejci.
Colt.45Orr
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Krejci, when healthy, is a clutch, playoff beast. One of the best in the NHL. I would argue that there is NOTHING that STL needs more than a clutch playoff beast.
Oates2Neely
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I'm sure he could, but I doubt the player would be particularly interesting.
Blues made a weird AHL swap for a defenseman today. Edmundson and Bortuzzo are both close and Lindbohm will be going back. Not sure why they need the extra D.
Only problem is we don't have player who could take his spot. Gunnar isn't any near of playing top minutes and opponent. Parayko can play top2 minutes and opponent, but in his off-side would hurt his developement. Same goes with Pietro who did play on his off-side World Cup, but you shouldn't put your best dmen on his off-side.
Ofc if Jbo could be moved if bring back top2 dmen, but it wouldn't make any sense woulnd't it?
We have in the pipeline Dunn and Walman, but they might be ready in best case scenario in to Jbo's spot when Jbo could just walk away when his contract ends, but trading Jbo currently what we have would be 'shoot in your own leg' - move.
I really don't understand that way of thinking, I mean wouldn't you rather win in the playoffs? That's the goal right? The Blues have a lot of the pieces it takes to win, it seems to me that Krejci is exactly the type of guy they would need.
I understand wanting to get younger but not at the expense of getting better when the team is not that far away from being a real threat to win a cup.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Maybe something around Shattenkirk+Berglund for Krejci, That's the only way i see Krejci fitting into St Louis salary cap.
I think if it were that easy it would be done by now. Those pieces seem to fit, but it feels like we have been talking about it for close to 5 months. There must be something else to it.
Been wondering if part of the delay was Schmaltz being injured. He returned to action this weekend.
Krejci is extremely overrated, honest Bruins fans will admit it. Getting out of that contract would be a bonus.
I feel I am pretty honest and I think Krejci is extremely underrated. "Getting out of that contract" makes them a worse team, I don't see any way around that. Not only will Krejci score with the best of them in the playoffs but he is great defensively as well. Krejci handles Crosby while Bergeron handles Malkin and for the last few years they have really been the better pair head to head. You are not going to get a player like Krejci for less than his current salary, it is how much players like him get paid.
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wintersej
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I don't see Krejci waiving.
If Krejci doesn't waive, tough to see how Bruins afford it without Spooner + two of Beleksey, McQuaid and Kevan Miller having new addresses.
If Krejci doesn't waive, tough to see how Bruins afford it without Spooner + two of Beleksey, McQuaid and Kevan Miller having new addresses.
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Number1RedWingsFan52
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I don't see Krejci waiving his NMC for St Louis either, By all accounts Krejci loves it in Boston. I think it would be something around Spooner++ for an extended Shattenkirk.
AIexisLafreniereNYR
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I would assume that for if the rumors are true and this has been talked about numerous times by both teams that Krejci has already been asked if he would wave and agreed to it. Otherwise it's a total waste of time for either team to even talk about it.
This would make sense. It would certainly be foolish for the Blues to work out a deal only to find out that Krejci would veto it in half a second.
Even if they don't get a verbal "yes", I'd think they would know it's at least a "maybe" that Krejci would consider it when the time comes.
I already made a post about it on the Blues board but people try to analyze these things way too much. A player may have a NMC and like where he's at, but there are still plenty of reasons he could waive it. This whole "but he's married to a Boston girl" blah blah blah, this guy is a professional hockey player. These families should know he can move on at some point. He's not the only one in this position. Things happen.
As a Blues fan Krejci is probably the best return we could possibly get for Shattenkirk at this point. People can complain about his cap hit or whatever, but it's time to stop being so picky. I'd definitely try hard to get this done if I'm Doug Armstrong.
For the Bruins, that would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. They'd shore up their D but they'd be thinning their O.
