Post-Game Talk: Sharks win 1-0

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ps241

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I was a Noel fan but you can see and hear that Maurice is a big step up, were lucky to have him, good choice by Chevy (did I just say that);)

Sip you are rarely this positive when we win????

Mo has them playing real hockey
 

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So, they should just delay the postgame show til the middle of the night to get some positivity outta Wazoo then?

He made some very good points (and challenged RR on his assumptions), but he still delivered it with that negative wet blanket tone. That said: good points by Wazny - props to him.
 

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Who actually said Mo is bad with younger players? Doesn't look like it at all. Trouba, Scheif, Bogo and Kane get a lot of ice time and seem to be pretty confident playing under Maurice.

He seems to handle the team way better than Noel.
 

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Jets' pre-olympic schedule:

SAT, 25 JAN 2014 MAPLE LEAFS JETS

SUN, 26 JAN 2014 JETS BLACKHAWKS

TUE, 28 JAN 2014 PREDATORS JETS

FRI, 31 JAN 2014 CANUCKS JETS

SUN, 2 FEB 2014 JETS CANADIENS

TUE, 4 FEB 2014 JETS HURRICANES

THU, 6 FEB 2014 JETS CAPITALS

SAT, 8 FEB 2014 JETS BLUES


likely losses to Blues, Hawks.
can beat: Leafs, Habs, Caps, Caines, Preds, Canucks

Not an easy schedule by any means, but 6/8 of those games are can-win games.

Canucks game is huge if you're still fantasizing about playoffs (and, again, going 5/8 against can-win teams is huge and suddenly makes playoff talk not nonsense).
Game against Preds is huge if you think we have zero chance of making the playoffs and are dreaming of a draft pick.
 

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Coach Paul Maurice post-game
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KingBogo

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One thing I did hear Maurice say before the game: we are grooming Bogosian to be a top defender. I like how upfront and confidently he says that, it will give Zachy Goj tons of confidence, unlike Noel being so damn wishy-washy all the time. And Bogo definitely has the build and the wheels to be that top guy.

8 goals against in the 5 games since Maurice took over. That's refreshing.

I know there has been a fair amount of people advocating for Buff going back to D, but IMO this based solely on Buff's play/stats and not what's best for the team. I wish I would have also quoted the comments that we played similar to the Ducks or Kings with the above. Finally after 2 1/2 years we are playing a style of hockey that can lead to team success rather than just personal success.

Sure Buff generates more offense on the backend, but our games tend to turn into track meets, back and forth with odd man rushes, back door feeds etc. IMO Buff learns to be an effective forward or we trade him. Attention to detail in your own end is a requirement for contending and playoff hockey. We finally are on that path.
 

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He made some very good points (and challenged RR on his assumptions), but he still delivered it with that negative wet blanket tone. That said: good points by Wazny - props to him.

The second they find someone who knows advanced stats but also has a personality and radio presence, Wazny is gone.

Surely one of you guys can step up? :)
 

KingBogo

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The second they find someone who knows advanced stats but also has a personality and radio presence, Wazny is gone.

Surely one of you guys can step up? :)

There are lots of people who know/understand advance stats but aren't full blown converts. IMO they certainly have there place, but they are only part of the story. The best sports guys can find that balance.
 

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I know there has been a fair amount of people advocating for Buff going back to D, but IMO this based solely on Buff's play/stats and not what's best for the team. I wish I would have also quoted the comments that we played similar to the Ducks or Kings with the above. Finally after 2 1/2 years we are playing a style of hockey that can lead to team success rather than just personal success.

Sure Buff generates more offense on the backend, but our games tend to turn into track meets, back and forth with odd man rushes, back door feeds etc. IMO Buff learns to be an effective forward or we trade him. Attention to detail in your own end is a requirement for contending and playoff hockey. We finally are on that path.

we've defended well enough when stuck in our zone but that's not nearly enough to be successful

you still have to spend more time in the Ozone than the Dzone to win consistently....period
 

KingBogo

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we've defended well enough when stuck in our zone but that's not nearly enough to be successful

you still have to spend more time in the Ozone than the Dzone to win consistently....period

IMO that will come with time and quality of competition. The last 2 games we were playing far superior opponents, and we played them the only way possible to have a chance to win. We ended getting 2 points and going into the 3rd with a chance at more. Sure we could have opened up the game and had better possession #'s, but the Ducks and Sharks with their superior talent would have taken advantage of the increased and better opportunities and we would have likely been on the wrong side of 5-3 type games.
 

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As a lot of you said, not even mad about this loss. We took 2 of 4 Pts from California. That's a success in my books.

As long as we beat Toronto :D
 

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Too bad we couldn't get that one last night but I thought they played better than in Anaheim.
Trouba is a freakin' stud- how he got up after he got blown up by that cheap shot and then does a clinic on how to wallpaper that Shark was epic. This kid is something special.
Liking the compete level with this squad under Mo and Pavs is gearing up for Olys which is a huge plus.
Going to the game with the world's most annoying Leafs fan- Please, please, please bring this level of compete to the booth on Sat
 

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The idea that Buff is defensive liability is overblown and largely a function of Pavelec's garbage play behind Buff. If Buff starts to play on D again I am confident the narrative around Buff will change. It took people 3 years to start giving Pavelec his share of blame for this team's woes. Sometimes public opinion takes a while to catch onto the facts on ice.
 

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you would think Olli/Seto/Buff could at least hold their own playing as a 3rd line but holy crap it's been bad - especially without last line change

The scariest thing is that they weren't even playing hard minutes in this game. Sharks were matching Kearns-Desjardins-Kennedy vs. that line.
 

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The predominant rallying point for Buff's poor defense prior to this year was his uncanny ability to get caught up the ice and out of position (without a teammate bothering to cover).

This year it's giveaways in his own end. I think Buff is the best breakout passer we have. This year, he had a rash of giveaways on these plays. I think they were kind of random and he was unlucky to have so many in a short period of time. But this has become the rallying point for Buff's poor defense this year.

I think the weak part of Buff's defence is lazy feet when the other team have the puck. He gets "stuck" on the wrong side of an opponent because he doesn't react to the danger in time. This doesn't make him a bad defender in my book. He spends less time in his end than anybody else because he is so good at getting the puck and getting it out of our end.

His value is as a defenseman, though I don't mind the experiment at winger.
 

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The predominant rallying point for Buff's poor defense prior to this year was his uncanny ability to get caught up the ice and out of position (without a teammate bothering to cover).

This year it's giveaways in his own end. I think Buff is the best breakout passer we have. This year, he had a rash of giveaways on these plays. I think they were kind of random and he was unlucky to have so many in a short period of time. But this has become the rallying point for Buff's poor defense this year.

I think the weak part of Buff's defence is lazy feet when the other team have the puck. He gets "stuck" on the wrong side of an opponent because he doesn't react to the danger in time. This doesn't make him a bad defender in my book. He spends less time in his end than anybody else because he is so good at getting the puck and getting it out of our end.

His value is as a defenseman, though I don't mind the experiment at winger.

So the problem now is that Bogosian has been promoted to the top line and has looked good. Then there's Trouba. Do you put Buff back as the third pair? How does that work? I can't imagine that sitting well. Move Trouba down and pair Buff with Stuart? Wasn't that the combo that produced all our woes? The return of Buffstrom and BogoStuart? It really does seem like the situation is setting up for moving Buff. I would hope that TNSE is only looking to the east though. Wouldn't want him to haunt us. Is there anybody out there with too many LHD and not enough RHD? Maybe a decent 2nd pair LHD and a pick for Buff woudl work for the Jets.
 

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So the problem now is that Bogosian has been promoted to the top line and has looked good. Then there's Trouba. Do you put Buff back as the third pair? How does that work? I can't imagine that sitting well. Move Trouba down and pair Buff with Stuart? Wasn't that the combo that produced all our woes? The return of Buffstrom and BogoStuart? It really does seem like the situation is setting up for moving Buff. I would hope that TNSE is only looking to the east though. Wouldn't want him to haunt us. Is there anybody out there with too many LHD and not enough RHD? Maybe a decent 2nd pair LHD and a pick for Buff woudl work for the Jets.

"Third pair" is a misleading term... you can still give him top 4 minutes while playing with Pardy 5-on-5 for most of the game. It'll come from extended time on the PP and occasional shifts with Enstrom and Trouba in specialized circumstances. He can easily get around 19-20 mins playing the aforementioned arrangement.
 

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"Third pair" is a misleading term... you can still give him top 4 minutes while playing with Pardy 5-on-5 for most of the game. It'll come from extended time on the PP and occasional shifts with Enstrom and Trouba in specialized circumstances. He can easily get around 19-20 mins playing the aforementioned arrangement.

yeah... on that note, i noticed some posts about Buff being put back on D at the end of the game. I didn't see it that way. He was on the point for the extra skater, same as the PP.

I wonder what we'd get for Ellerby at the deadline. Postma will be game ready soon.
 

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IMO Buff back on defense but only to pump up his value, then trade. Retain salary this season if you can to pump up value further.

I think Buff is elite, but for a team that is ready now, which we are not.
 

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IMO Buff back on defense but only to pump up his value, then trade. Retain salary this season if you can to pump up value further.

I think Buff is elite, but for a team that is ready now, which we are not.

I don't think you can retain salary for just one season, it would have to be till the end of the contract.
 

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I don't think you can retain salary for just one season, it would have to be till the end of the contract.

Yip. Whole contracts, not only years of contracts.

Buff is only signed through2014-2015.

Are we talking about next season or the end of this season? Rheged probably meant "rest of this season". Do we really want to keep part of Buffs cap next year?
 
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