Confirmed with Link: Sharks trade Eklund, Halttunen and Svoboda to Ottawa for 9th overall.

[Patty Ice]

 

[STL Shark]

are we sure he's improved

Yes, I think we underestimate how much Berube was a horrible coaching fit in Toronto for the skillsets of their group. I think Rielly rebounds with more transition and puck movement rather than the rigid Berube style that forced Rielly to defend more (which he is not good at) rather than create from the backend (something we need).

There will be gaffes as there are with offensive defensemen, but I think Rielly will bounce back to a 50+ point guy in SJ should we acquire him. It's just a matter of cost. I don't think he will be a cap dump, but also should not cost a ton of assets either.

 

[sampler]

You know, it's not the end of the world if Grier acquires Rielly for a bag o' pucks, and packages 27+9+Bystedt to get Reid at 4 or 5. Bystedt doesnt fit anymore in SJ but he does much more in Buffalo or NYR.

Stenberg - celebrini - Smith
Chernyshov - Misa - Graf
Sherwood - Wennberg- Toffoli
Gaudette - Ostapchuk - Dellandrea
Goodrow
(Musty or Lund as injury call ups)

Rielly - Kesselring
Mukh- Orlov
Dick- Desharnais
Allan, Cagnoni

Asky - Ned

That D is not spectacular. But, Rielly is definitely a clear upgrade on Klingberg. And Kesselring has more upside than Ferraro. So, all in all, that would not be a terrible way to start the season.

Grier also said he likes what he has in Pohlkamp and LSW, so the long term D answer may already be there, espcially if you include Ried.

 

[the dangler]

I was surprised about Halttunen. Didn't seem to get the best chances in the AHL last year and was really looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year in the pros under his belt. But this does seem to open up some room for Bystet and Musty to maybe get a better crack at the lineup now.

yeah agreed with others that Griersy doesn't seem to be done yet. But if he is, Friday at the tank is going to be super fun!

 

[57special]

Byram is a not a #1D. IMO, he is not a #2D, either. You guys dodged a bullet trading the #9 for him, once you factor in the contract situation. The guy simply isn't a vg defender, has below average physicality, has a history of concussions, and an offense that is above average, but not much above average.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Honestly 9th overall is gotta be ammo for one of Harley, Hronek, Broberg, Dunn, even Willander+ at this point. Could go the Rielly route, but I could see him being aggressive like he looked like towards Byram.

So, I have one more name to that list. It's a wild card, but I feel MG is probably on him as well.
Simon Edvinsson. I think he's one of the better NHL prospects out there, that could be available for the right price in this economy for the Detroit Red Wings.

Preferred ammo:
9th overall,
27th overall,
Mukhamadullin
Bystedt
Musty
Gaudette

9th overall, Mukhamadullin, +/- 2nd round pick or 27th overall for Simon Edvinsson?

Outside of that:

I do agree that Rielly is probably realistically the one MG can catch, it's not the end of the world he's a NHL defencemen and needs a change of scenery. I could see him having a Walman type of production, which doesn't move the needle but will help the offence. Carlo is other one, with more short term help. Kinda of a Ceci 2.0 but hopefully even better.

 

[sampler]

#9 all but guarantees you one of Rudolph, Voerhoff, or Smits.

Rudolph is not a bad pick at 9 if the sharks choose to keep it. 6'2.5, 205 lb RHD with good skill. He is on the younger side (mar 2008 born) and his DU commit is very attractive as DU is the best program in the country with the best coach in the country. Pohlkmap took massive leaps under Carle, and I would assume Rudolph would do the same. Seems a top pair RHD cieling.

Assuming no #1D it the market from now, Eklund for Rudolph+5.6M in cap space is not a bad play.

Two months ago, the idea that the sharks could leave the draft with a game breaking top line W (possible #1OA talent), a possible top pair RHD (Voerhoff or Rudolph), a 6'5 mid pair RHD, and whoever they get at 27 and 62... That would be a pipe dream.

 

[rekrul]

So, I have one more name to that list. It's a wild card, but I feel MG is probably on him as well.
Simon Edvinsson. I think he's one of the better NHL prospects out there, that could be available for the right price in this economy for the Detroit Red Wings.

Preferred ammo:
9th overall,
27th overall,
Mukhamadullin
Bystedt
Musty
Gaudette

9th overall, Mukhamadullin, +/- 2nd round pick or 27th overall for Simon Edvinsson?

Outside of that:

I do agree that Rielly is probably realistically the one MG can catch, it's not the end of the world he's a NHL defencemen and needs a change of scenery. I could see him having a Walman type of production, which doesn't move the needle but will help the offence. Carlo is other one, with more short term help. Kinda of a Ceci 2.0 but hopefully even better.

Last year GMMG had to work with scraps with Orlov and klingberg. Their D was easily one of the worst, Askarov also regressed. Yet they still played meaningful games in March and leaped ahead of a few teams. Riely also would be better than Klingberg by a healthy margin. Best you can do, certainty will come cheap.

 

[themelkman]

So now that I've slept on it; GMMG getting Blackhawks gm to have a nervous breakdown from this trade was the real masterclass here

It's too bad he didn't hand us a massive deal for 2

 

[sampler]

So, I have one more name to that list. It's a wild card, but I feel MG is probably on him as well.
Simon Edvinsson. I think he's one of the better NHL prospects out there, that could be available for the right price in this economy for the Detroit Red Wings.

Preferred ammo:
9th overall,
27th overall,
Mukhamadullin
Bystedt
Musty
Gaudette

9th overall, Mukhamadullin, +/- 2nd round pick or 27th overall for Simon Edvinsson?

Outside of that:

I do agree that Rielly is probably realistically the one MG can catch, it's not the end of the world he's a NHL defencemen and needs a change of scenery. I could see him having a Walman type of production, which doesn't move the needle but will help the offence. Carlo is other one, with more short term help. Kinda of a Ceci 2.0 but hopefully even better.

Honestly, grier could flip 27+Mukh (+Bystedt?) for both Rielly and Carlo. Solidifies the D, even if not amazing, and gives Toronto a little return on their cap dumps.

Carlo>Mukh and the 1 year deal is easily flipped at the TDL if need be, or extended if it works out. Lots of flexibility for Grier there.

 

[sampler]

Chicago and Davidson are ridiculous. Byram is not Dahlin. How the hell is chicago gunna score goals or prevent them. They were 30th in the league in goals scored! Byram helps the offense some, but not THAT much. And the natural development of thier kids will help some too. I think its fair to say they will score more next year than this year, most likely. But, even another half goal per game more would put them at 17th in the league in scoring, and that would be an impressive leap based on adding one D. And Byram is not known for stellar defense, so not sure how much he helps the 27th worst goals against.

This was the dumbest trade I've seen in years, and I do not know how Chicago plans to build their winner. Bedard will get his big bucks, but they are putting their eggs in the basket of Nazar, Frondell, Boisvert, Moore, and Greene. There is some good talent there, espcially nazar and frondell, but this kind of move is a "go fot it" play for a teach nowhere near "going for it". The sharks are way closer to contention...

Davidson's last hurrah...

 

[sampler]

The plot thickens yet again:

Hurricanes considering trade involving RFA defenceman Nikishin

The Carolina Hurricanes are considering a trade involving defenceman Alexander Nikishin, according to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger.

www.tsn.ca

 

[sampler]

Would you trade #9 for Nikishin? I would very strongly consider that and its a classic Grier move.

 

[zombie kopitar]

Would you trade #9 for Nikishin? I would very strongly consider that and its a classic Grier move.

subscribed , I'd imagine they'd want an NHL ready-ish prospect like Musty/Bydstedt too

 

[themelkman]

Would you trade #9 for Nikishin? I would very strongly consider that and its a classic Grier move.

Seems steep for me. I know he was a rookie but he's 25 and got benched in critical moments for Carolina.

 

[Saskatoon]

are we sure he's improved

Outside of a few games were Klingberg showed life he was pretty dogshit