Confirmed with Link: Sharks trade 20th pick to Sabres for 27th and D Michael Kesselring (RFA)

[coooldude]

One thing I think this definitely indicates: Nemec off the table. I can't see us trotting out Nemec, Kesselring, Desharnais on the right.

Two things this does not take off the table: Rielly, Nurse.

 

[SactoShark]

Adding a little more smoke to that #2 pick…

 

[Surfer Dude]

High ankle and knee sprains can be a recurring issue. I think he's still worth the price and the risk associated with him but those types of injuries can linger for an athlete.

given his age and how good medical is now, i am optimistic atm. if he was older like 30+ and suffer hip injury like klingberg, i'd be more worried. hip and groin like couch seem more difficult to rehab imo.

 

[sampler]

Do we try to sign Logan Stanley now to compete big human the buffalo cast off crew? (Note: I hope not)

 

[sharski]

Chase Reid: *unfollows Sharks twitter*

 

[sampler]

Adding a little more smoke to that #2 pick…

How so? I dont see how acquiring a mid-pair cieling RHD affects whether we pick Ried or Stenberg. Now, adding U29, a top pair RHD might push us toward Stenberg. But this move does not indicate anything in my mind about the direction of Grier on #2.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Don't know if his health will rebound. These are the types of risks you have to take.

 

[emptyNedder]

Solid move that could become even better. If the target for the draft is another RD, then 27 should have only one less option than 20. Kesselring is young enough that if he returns to form, he could be productive for 5-6 years and be part of the future D core. Ideally that core will add another one or two key components this draft.

 

[zombie kopitar]

helllll yeah , cook GMMG

 

[STL Shark]

One thing I think this definitely indicates: Nemec off the table. I can't see us trotting out Nemec, Kesselring, Desharnais on the right.

Two things this does not take off the table: Rielly, Nurse.

I think we get Peeke as a stable RHD to go along with Kesselring. Know Bruins fans have their comments about him, but Warso loved him in the same WC that Kesselring was on the team and played Peeke even more.

Question is going to be who runs PP1. Think Orlov will stick as PP2 with Dickinson mixing in, but I suppose that would be Rielly for PP1 and hope he bounces back away from an old school dunce like Berube behind the bench.

 

[Bizz]

W trade.

let's go!

 

[Surfer Dude]

One thing I think this definitely indicates: Nemec off the table. I can't see us trotting out Nemec, Kesselring, Desharnais on the right.

Two things this does not take off the table: Rielly, Nurse.

given the cost and defensive play, i'd rather take a flyer on Kesselring tbh. I think Nemec for Eklund was fair but still costly so i prefer this move by far.

maybe rielly, nurse are not off the table but I think Grier is going for cheap value if it happens. i'd rather go for Hronek, MPetterrson with the 27th pick in play or revisit Nemec than those guys.

 

[Barrie22]

Sign desharnai, trot him and kesselring out together.

 

[Yummyshark]

Wow that's a solid pickup, our first legit RHD. Lindy hated him so hopefully he will bounce back with us. Thank you Yzerman!

 

[sampler]

I don’t think there’s any top RHD available.

You never know. Things happen.

That said, Grier seems to be continuing to slow play the rebuild. This is a very grier-like move, the same type of move as signing Klingberg or Kurashev or trading for Walman. It's a low risk, high upside move with minimal term and $.

I dont mind those moves, but they rarely end up home runs. This too is unlikely to be a home run. I still think grier has to swing for the fences at least once if he wants to ice a winner. These kinds of moves, like Signing Brendan Dillon, can make a positive difference, but they don't revolutionize a roster. If Grier makes another similar move and goes into the season with his fingers crossed, hoping for success, its unlikely to work.

I look forward to a move Grier makes with real risk and thus real accountability. I am not cool with missing PO's next year because Grier decided to be patient.

 

[TheBeard]

You never know. Things happen.

That said, Grier seems to be continuing to slow play the rebuild. This is a very grier-like move, the same type of move as signing Klingberg or Kurashev or trading for Walman. It's a low risk, high upside move with minimal term and $.

I dont mind those moves, but they rarely end up home runs. This too is unlikely to be a home run. I still think grier has to swing for the fences at least once if he wants to ice a winner. These kinds of moves, like Signing Brendan Dillon, can make a positive difference, but they don't revolutionize a roster. If Grier makes another similar move and goes into the season with his fingers crossed, hoping for success, its unlikely to work.

I look forward to a move Grier makes with real risk and thus real accountability. I am not cool with missing PO's next year because Grier decided to be patient.

I think the move is fine, but it also reeks of the Liljigren trade.

 

[Bizz]

One thing I think this definitely indicates: Nemec off the table. I can't see us trotting out Nemec, Kesselring, Desharnais on the right.

Two things this does not take off the table: Rielly, Nurse.

I'd think Spence is off the table now too.

Rielly and Nurse were never on the table. They're in the composter where they belong.

 

[Hodge]

I think we get Peeke as a stable RHD to go along with Kesselring. Know Bruins fans have their comments about him, but Warso loved him in the same WC that Kesselring was on the team and played Peeke even more.

Question is going to be who runs PP1. Think Orlov will stick as PP2 with Dickinson mixing in, but I suppose that would be Rielly for PP1 and hope he bounces back away from an old school dunce like Berube behind the bench.

Rielly-Peeke
Orlov-Mukhamadullin
Dickinson-Kesselring

Still terrible but a definite upgrade on last season without giving up significant assets.

 

[sampler]

given the cost and defensive play, i'd rather take a flyer on Kesselring tbh. I think Nemec for Eklund was fair but still costly so i prefer this move by far.

maybe rielly, nurse are not off the table but I think Grier is going for cheap value if it happens. i'd rather go for Hronek, MPetterrson with the 27th pick in play or revisit Nemec than those guys.

I don't see Rielly or Nurse coming here. Too much term at their ages given the potential upside. Grier will want a clean sheet in 3+ years to give extensions to all the kids. If he is going to commit to 4+ years to anyone, it would need to be someone they are SURE about, and someone who is not already 31 or 32 (and would be 35ish then). I cannot imagine Grier is overly confident in the two way play of Rielly or Nurse.

Hronek on the other hand fits like a glove, especially now.

 

[sampler]

Rielly-Peeke
Orlov-Mukhamadullin
Dickinson-Kesselring

Still terrible but a definite upgrade on last season without giving up significant assets.

Peeke is not the answer to complete the right side. Grier will want someone with more offense to offer.

Trouba would fit, but I expect hell want more term than Grier can offer (likely 5+ years). Raddysh is still in the convo... and who knows who else may be on the trade block.

 

[ChompChomp]

Peeke is not the answer to complete the right side. Grier will want someone with more offense to offer.

Trouba would fit, but I expect hell want more term than Grier can offer (likely 5+ years). Raddysh is still in the convo... and who knows who else may be on the trade block.

I don't think it's likely, but if they ended up with Raddysh and Kesselring...that's a helluva haul right here and transforms the D corps.

 

[Hodge]

I think the move is fine, but it also reeks of the Liljigren trade.

As much as I hated Liljegren we did recoup a 4th for him. We should be able to get similar value for Kesselring in a few years if it doesn't work out.

Peeke is not the answer to complete the right side. Grier will want someone with more offense to offer.

Trouba would fit, but I expect hell want more term than Grier can offer (likely 5+ years). Raddysh is still in the convo... and who knows who else may be on the trade block.

Peeke would be brought in to eat minutes. Rielly is the token offenseman.

 

[emptyNedder]

I think how they pick/use 27 could be fascinating.

The GM and scouts could be targeting a specific player--my guess is Preston. He looks like a good fit on a 2nd/3rd pair with Graf. One high octane scoring threat with one high octane two-way winger.

If there is a specific target and he is gone by 27, then maybe a trade with Calgary for something like 36 and 55.

 

[Zarzh]

It's one of those low-key really terrible trades that make me really hate Grier.

You're trading someone that's really promising like Hermansson, Morozov, Pugachyov, Suvanto, or Novotny for what's likely a nothing prospect, like the best case scenario is someone like Murtyn who is a tier and a half below for a bottom pairing defenseman coming off major injury.

 

[Zarzh]

As much as I hated Liljegren we did recoup a 4th for him. We should be able to get similar value for Kesselring in a few years if it doesn't work out.

No one is going to move down a tier (or potentially more) in the draft for a 30 year old Kesselring.