Confirmed with Link: Sharks acquire Egor Afanasyev for Ozzy Wiesblatt

[hohosaregood]

Bordeleau?

as more than a call up i mean

 

[Patty Ice]

as more than a call up i mean

I think it's Bordeleau's spot to lose in training camp. At least, I would think that is the expectation right now.

Depends on if Grier brings in another established forward but that can always be negated if Couture isn't ready to go.

 

[TheBeard]

I think it's Bordeleau's spot to lose in training camp. At least, I would think that is the expectation right now.

Depends on if Grier brings in another established forward but that can always be negated if Couture isn't ready to go.

With so many similarly-hyped guys, I don’t think it’s anyone’s to lose but definitely someone’s to win.

 

[OversKy]

What NHL ready forwards? Right now Sharks have 9 forwards signed for next year. 10 with Celebrini. That includes Graf and Givani Smith neither of whom are guaranteed an NHL spot.

Smith should never have been signed, he's not even good at being a goon. There's a free spot right there.

 

[OversKy]

I think it's Bordeleau's spot to lose in training camp. At least, I would think that is the expectation right now.

Depends on if Grier brings in another established forward but that can always be negated if Couture isn't ready to go.

I think Egor is more versatile playing up and down the line up. Might even have more offensive potential. Bordeleau has definitely not earned anything but an AHL spot so far to me.

 

[Patty Ice]

With so many similarly-hyped guys, I don’t think it’s anyone’s to lose but definitely someone’s to win.

Fair enough but I think he has a leg up on the competition.

 

[Scoresberg]

Hello Sharks fans,

As a Preds fan, I am disappointed in this trade. I don't know how much NHL upside Afanasyev ultimately has, but as 6-4 forward with scoring abilities, he has to be worth at least a good look in the NHL.

Many Preds fans expected Afanasyev to eventually replace Trenin in our bottom-six as they were a lot like as players. Afanasyev perhaps not as physical as Trenin but a higher scoring potential.

I think if you can give Afanasyev an extended look in your bottom-six, he can become a valuable piece for you. I certainly am hoping so.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I think it's a bigger win than that. It's an absolute player upgrade, that's for sure, plus is a guy that either makes the big club or punts to russia, thus opening a contract spot. OR he plays in the AHL where he was again better than Ozzy.

So we got 3 potential positive outcomes for 1 nothing player.

All of those are better outcomes than keeping Wiesblatt but the odds it produces anything meaningful at the NHL level is still pretty remote.

 

[Jargon]

I like the Dellandrea and Afanasyev moves though. Give opportunities to younger guys who probably are bottom 6 forwards long-term who are somewhat blocked for ice time on better squads. That's a good way to leverage one of the few things you have going for you as a team with a lot of holes - you also have opportunities for guys to prove themselves that they deserve a better shot to show that they're NHL worthy.

I think because the team was so bad though that there's gonna be some level of disappointment for a lot of people who are gonna want better players to put on a line with Celebrini than are willing to sign here, which is why even though @Sheng Peng is not a fan of the Sharks getting in on Patrik Laine, I say that's a rare case where you have the opportunity to buy low on a guy who has the skill to play with your young foundational centerpiece of your squad and help him look good. Celebrini isn't going to suddenly stop playing a 200 foot game because Patrik Laine is on the roster, but Patrik Laine might make it harder for teams to focus all the defensive attention on Celebrini.

We're simply not going to be able to go out and get a bunch of two-way players who check all the boxes for the team we ultimately want - they're gonna be flawed in some regard. Probably what we'll end up is with a team that has more grit and defense than last year's edition, but is still very much offensively challenged.

Oh, I’ve also really liked Dellandrea and Egor. I think they’re great guys to potentially help shore up the bottom 6 - but I think there are going to be significantly more moves to attempt to fix defense and get at least one more vet top 6 guy.

I agree that there’s only so much Grier can really do and it’s going to be a team made up of older guys slightly past their prime and guys who weren’t being given chances on their team, but I get the overall feeling that Grier is going to be very aggressive and this is just the beginning.

 

[Herschel]

I'd play Couture with Celebrini if he's healthy.

I 100% agree, Couture, if he is healthy enough to play and move effectively, is the exact type of player you can hitch Celebrini too. He has the correct work ethic on both sides of the puck and will help less the load in the Dzone.

But it is a big if that Couture will be able to play at a top 6 level.

 

[STL Shark]

All of those are better outcomes than keeping Wiesblatt but the odds it produces anything meaningful at the NHL level is still pretty remote.

I think something like Kostin (not even because of the lazy “both Russian” thing) is a good comp. Kostin needed more AHL time than he was given, but likely would’ve had similar PPG numbers as a 22-23 year old at that level.

 

[timorous me]

I think something like Kostin (not even because of the lazy “both Russian” thing) is a good comp. Kostin needed more AHL time than he was given, but likely would’ve had similar PPG numbers as a 22-23 year old at that level.

Kostin's going to be a really interesting one to see how he does this season after such a positive first impression. But I do think beyond that it could be a real bonus to have three young-to-mid 20s Russian guys together on the team (Kostin's 25, Muk is 22, Egor is 23) to help each other out and maybe bring the best out of each other if they forge a good off-ice relationship.

 

[Alaskanice]

Kostin's going to be a really interesting one to see how he does this season after such a positive first impression. But I do think beyond that it could be a real bonus to have three young-to-mid 20s Russian guys together on the team (Kostin's 25, Muk is 22, Egor is 23) to help each other out and maybe bring the best out of each other if they forge a good off-ice relationship.

I’ll say it again, Afan and Gush played together on their junior team.

 

[timorous me]

I’ll say it again, Afan and Gush played together on their junior team.

Yeah, though I think there is valid concern that Gushchin won't be in San Jose this year. If his intent is to play on the Sharks this year, then Afanasyev's arrival--and the necessity for him to stay with the Sharks--might have, ironically, been the hammer blow to Goose's chances.

 

[Star Platinum]

Yeah, though I think there is valid concern that Gushchin won't be in San Jose this year. If his intent is to play on the Sharks this year, then Afanasyev's arrival--and the necessity for him to stay with the Sharks--might have, ironically, been the hammer blow to Goose's chances.

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

With so many similarly-hyped guys, I don’t think it’s anyone’s to lose but definitely someone’s to win.

Bordy did have that streak where he was playing really well like actually up to his potential, the coaching change might have a positive impact on him

 

[gaucholoco3]

Bordy did have that streak where he was playing really well like actually up to his potential, the coaching change might have a positive impact on him

He was their best PP player on the top PP to end the season. He still has a very narrow path of 3rd line LW/PP specialist. He actually might have to be pushed to the 4th line since he doesn’t fit the “hard to play against” persona that GMMG is looking for.

 

[TheBeard]

Bordy did have that streak where he was playing really well like actually up to his potential, the coaching change might have a positive impact on him

He was the same the year prior at the end of the year and then fell at at the beginning of this year.

 

[hohosaregood]

He was the same the year prior at the end of the year and then fell at at the beginning of this year.

It wasn't really the same. The way he played then and now we're pretty different. He was a softer, more passive and reactive player up to about half way through this season. He played more aggressively on the boards than I'd seen from him before. It's a pretty big improvement for him as a pro imo