Player Discussion Shane Pinto (C) - PART 2

[BigRig4]

He’s potting 2 tonight just a heads up

 

[The Waffler]

Watched his recent interview this morning, he said there’s been a lot of positive reinforcement around him and people are giving him a lot of support during his adversity.


Maybe he needs more negativity in his life??

 

[Tuna99]

Bob Gainey had seasons of 8, 11, 12, 14 goals - maybe we are thinking of Pinto in the wrong mould?

 

[PlayOn]

Imagine someone said before the season that JBD would have more points than Pinto in less games played. Crazy stuff.

He’s getting better each game. Hopefully he can get going in time for this 70 year road trip.

 

[NinjaSens]

Pinto's lack of offensive production is not exclusively on him. He's not put in a position to succeed given his skillset. It's a roster construction problem. He needs to play with someone creative that will put him situations to use his shot more.

 

[aragorn]

Pinto is going to be a great player & has the skillset to most likely turn into a 2nd line centre.

 

[StutzlingAway]

Pinto's lack of offensive production is not exclusively on him. He's not put in a position to succeed given his skillset. It's a roster construction problem. He needs to play with someone creative that will put him situations to use his shot more.

Yeah agrees, he needs play driving wingers. Once Perron returns hopefully it will open up his game.

 

[OD99]

Best game of the season tonight.

He was engaged, skating well and carrying the puck. Also got in some good spots for shots.

 

[Icelevel]

Really surprised to see this drop off. Would not have guessed it.
Hope he gets some points soon.
His line looked much better last night.
Cousins finally looks as we expected.

 

[SpezDispenser]

He was dynamite vs the Ducks. Maybe it's just bad luck and not an injury, to which I'd say it'll change soon.

 

[BankStreetParade]

How's he gonna score when he has 31 SoG in 20 GP, playing 17 minutes per night? That's pathetic. He has a career shooting percentage of 9.8, so even if he was scoring at his career average, we would expect him to have 3G instead of 1. That's still not remotely good enough. If he shot at his career best 12.7%, he would have 4G and would still be pacing for well under 20G.

For comparison, last year he had 110 SoG in 41GP producing 9G, 18A, 27P.

 

[TheNewEra]

How's he gonna score when he has 31 SoG in 20 GP, playing 17 minutes per night? That's pathetic. He has a career shooting percentage of 9.8, so even if he was scoring at his career average, we would expect him to have 3G instead of 1. That's still not remotely good enough. If he shot at his career best 12.7%, he would have 4G and would still be pacing for well under 20G.

For comparison, last year he had 110 SoG in 41GP producing 9G, 18A, 27P.

i would just take the point production, would mean someone is scoring. Ideally pinto starts scoring and soon but if he can end in that 35-45 point range then its not the worst production from the third line

a lot of us (including myself tbh) were penciling him in to be producing at a top 6 clip. All this shows is that it was too premature.

Very similar to Greig. Both players have cost themselves dollars on their extensions

 

[Alex1234]

On pace for 11 points

 

[PlayOn]

How's he gonna score when he has 31 SoG in 20 GP, playing 17 minutes per night? That's pathetic. He has a career shooting percentage of 9.8, so even if he was scoring at his career average, we would expect him to have 3G instead of 1. That's still not remotely good enough. If he shot at his career best 12.7%, he would have 4G and would still be pacing for well under 20G.

For comparison, last year he had 110 SoG in 41GP producing 9G, 18A, 27P.

He went through a 5 game stretch with only 2 shots and wasn’t playing well at all - probably lost his confidence. He has been much better over the last two games and presumably will continue to shoot more.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He has been very unlucky for a few games now. Playing well. Not scoring.
His line has played well via hard work and good board play.
The 3 highest CF% on the team last night. Cousins, Amadio, Pinto. All 20+ CF Good soldier line that tilts the ice but is missing some finish.
Pinto was 81.25% on faceoffs .. all situations. winning 13 ; next highest wins was G with 8
according to NST

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Pinto the type of guy to get 10 points in next 10 games and change everything.

He is going to be something special for us, lest ya'll worry at all, lol.

 

[lang006]

Pinto the type of guy to get 10 points in next 10 games and change everything.

He is going to be something special for us, lest ya'll worry at all, lol.

Agreed. That line has been good lately and not rewarded for their efforts. Pintos skating has looked better in the last half dozen games. I remain convinced he was trying to play through some kind of injury. He will be fine.

 

[Tuna99]

Pinto is going to be a great player & has the skillset to most likely turn into a 2nd line centre.

Last season he played lots with Batherson and Brady with Norris out and for sure he can play a top 6 roll with the right wingers, but with his current linemates who have no real offensive creativity, Pinto needs guys to get him the puck and that’s okay, but without a better winger to play with he’s Bob Gainey offense (8-14 goals) and with a winger he’s Patrick Sharpe offense (25-33 goals)

 

[Tuna99]

He has been very unlucky for a few games now. Playing well. Not scoring.
His line has played well via hard work and good board play.
The 3 highest CF% on the team last night. Cousins, Amadio, Pinto. All 20+ CF Good soldier line that tilts the ice but is missing some finish.
Pinto was 81.25% on faceoffs .. all situations. winning 13 ; next highest wins was G with 8
according to NST

Pinto is a between the dots and hashmarks down scorer and I haven’t seen him shoot from there in 20 games. He’s just not getting the puck into shooting areas of the ice we are used to seeing him score

 

[Golden_Jet]

C’mon Shane, you’re a better player than 1 goal in the first game of the season.

 

[Alex1234]

Last season he played lots with Batherson and Brady with Norris out and for sure he can play a top 6 roll with the right wingers, but with his current linemates who have no real offensive creativity, Pinto needs guys to get him the puck and that’s okay, but without a better winger to play with he’s Bob Gainey offense (8-14 goals) and with a winger he’s Patrick Sharpe offense (25-33 goals)

Agree but at the same time Cousins and Amadio (no real offensive creativity guys) have double his points total in 6 and 8 more games
He can give a lot more

 

[LiseL]

Signs of life for sure. Thought he looked much better last night and has been trending up.

Again, no production, but Amadio was all over the puck last night too. Liked that line.

Edit: Amadio did have an assist

I think Pinto had the most minutes of all the forwards last night, I realize some of that is due to PK time. However, Norris is on the 1st line and also PKs and had fewer minutes. Could his lack of production be partly explained by the role his line has been assigned? I noticed when playing at home, his line gets the tougher match-ups. He's been so good in the dot and the PK. I think the production will come once he gets that monkey off his back, but at least he's contributing in other ways in the meantime.

 

[Micklebot]

Bottom 6 has been snake bitten all year. Actually, that's not quite fair, the 4th line was doing pretty well for a while. It's really just the 3rd line that's been snake bitten.

Pinito, Perron and Amadio, sometimes Gregor.

Pinto, on the ice for 6 GF, xGF is 11.23
Perron on the ice for 1 GF, xGF is 4.02
Amadio on the ice for 8 GF, xGF is 13.99
Gregor on the ice for 5 GF, xGF is 7.33

If those guys can get closer to expected that's our secondary scoring problem fixed right there.

Pinto is starting to look better, just needs to get that monkey off his back.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Good article!