Shanahan is the puppet master

[RunItBackAgain]

Stop blaming Dubas/Tre or Keefe, it’s clear as day who is pulling every string in this organization. If it’s rotten to the core, here it is.

Well played keeping Keefe and getting a new GM though so you have two more layers of defence before it’s your head on the chopping block. I see you.

Click to read more...

 

[ACC1224]

 

[GoonieFace]

Let’s ask Metallica their opinion….

 

[stickty111]

Stop blaming Dubas/Tre or Keefe, it’s clear as day who is pulling every string in this organization. If it’s rotten to the core, here it is.

Well played keeping Keefe and getting a new GM though so you have two more layers of defence before it’s your head on the chopping block. I see you.

This was obvious in the summer.

 

[francis246]

This was obvious in the summer.

Yup, I don’t know how it can’t be any clearer. Shanny is 100% making the decisions.

I don’t know what more proof people need.

 

[DuklaNation]

In 9 seasons, Leafs have had 1 playoff round win.

That is failure. Fire him.

 

[ACC1224]

Yup, I don’t know how it can’t be any clearer. Shanny is 100% making the decisions.

I don’t know what more proof people need.

Proof?

 

[Rob Brown]

Yup, I don’t know how it can’t be any clearer. Shanny is 100% making the decisions.

I don’t know what more proof people need.

Big 'but the laptop' vibes with this post.

 

[francis246]

Big 'but the laptop' vibes with this post.

What does that even mean?

 

[Rob Brown]

What does that even mean?

Don't worry about it.

Where's the proof that is so indisputable?

 

[francis246]

Don't worry about it.

Where's the proof that is so indisputable?

Getting big failed joke vibes with your post.

You have Dubas anecdotes, you have a million podcasts you can listen to that speak to the power struggle between Dubas and Shanahan throughout the summer. Also Sean Avery on the JD Bunkis podcast last week or two weeks ago pretty much confirmed this as well. Again I’ll preface by saying a lot of it is hearsay, no way to definitively know. But it is pointing towards Shanny having his hand involved more in the more recent years.

 

[Rob Brown]

Getting big failed joke vibes with your post.

You have Dubas anecdotes, you have a million podcasts you can listen to that speak to the power struggle between Dubas and Shanahan throughout the summer. Also Sean Avery on the JD Bunkis podcast last week or two weeks ago pretty much confirmed this as well. Again I’ll preface by saying a lot of it is hearsay, no way to definitively know. But it is pointing towards Shanny having his hand involved more in the more recent years.

Cause you didn't get the reference? Okay.

You said that Shanny is 100% making the decisions which implies that it's all up to him, not that he is just involved. And everything you just listed off is hearsay.

Do I think he's involved? Yes. Too much? Maybe. Does he make 100% of the decisions? No lol.

 

[Anthrax442]

Shamny is the president of the team. Thats his title, of course he is the puppet master

 

[ACC1224]

Cause you didn't get the reference? Okay.

You said that Shanny is 100% making the decisions which implies that it's all up to him, not that he is just involved. And everything you just listed off is hearsay.

Do I think he's involved? Yes. Too much? Maybe. Does he make 100% of the decisions? No lol.

This for me.
Of course hes involved like any president would be.

He's hardly a 'Puppet Master'

 

[francis246]

Cause you didn't get the reference? Okay.

You said that Shanny is 100% making the decisions which implies that it's all up to him, not that he is just involved. And everything you just listed off is hearsay.

Do I think he's involved? Yes. Too much? Maybe. Does he make 100% of the decisions? No lol.

Yup I mentioned the hearsay part in my post.

I mean he’s the president he says yes or no. At the end of the day. So he kind of is making the final decisions.

I do believe he has been heavily involved in the player personnel department. Just from everything I’ve listened to, read up on regarding the situation, more so in the last year leading up to Dubas’ departure.

 

[Rob Brown]

Yup I mentioned the hearsay part in my post.

I mean he’s the president he says yes or no. At the end of the day. So he kind of is making the final decisions.

I do believe he has been heavily involved in the player personnel department. Just from everything I’ve listened to, read up on regarding the situation, more so in the last year leading up to Dubas’ departure.

You said there is so much proof and then followed up the ask for said proof by saying you know it's all hearsay. That isn't really proof.

 

[ACC1224]

You said there is so much proof and then followed up the ask for said proof by saying you know it's all hearsay. That isn't really proof.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

It was obvious from his hiring.

Do you think an ex-nhler wants the job to be a figurehead only (ribbon cuttings and PR events)?

Hiring Babs, Lou, Dubas, etc.

Dubas even was let go because he wanted more autonomy.

The best thing Shanny has done as far as I can tell was he made himself insulated all this time.

 

[francis246]

You said there is so much proof and then followed up the ask for said proof by saying you know it's all hearsay. That isn't really proof.

For me the biggest proof is the situation with Kyle itself. I think the narrative was spun brilliantly by Shanny in his presser to make it seem like it was only a power play by Dubas and he’s innocent in it all lol.

I have to admit that was a masterclass press conference by Shanny

 

[Ianturnedbull]

The proof is in the pudding.

Also:

The poof is in the fart.

 

[the squared circle]

Whether he is puppet master, master blaster, or master of his domain, Shanahan should have been fired long ago.

 

[ACC1224]

Whether he is puppet master, master blaster, or master of his domain, Shanahan should have been fired long ago.

We don't know what they base his performance on. I'd be surprised if the Board wouldn't fire him if they found him underperforming.

 

[GoonieFace]

Getting big failed joke vibes with your post.

You have Dubas anecdotes, you have a million podcasts you can listen to that speak to the power struggle between Dubas and Shanahan throughout the summer. Also Sean Avery on the JD Bunkis podcast last week or two weeks ago pretty much confirmed this as well. Again I’ll preface by saying a lot of it is hearsay, no way to definitively know. But it is pointing towards Shanny having his hand involved more in the more recent years.

Sean Avery….than it must be true, he’s a solid source

 

[francis246]

Sean Avery….than it must be true, he’s a solid source

He’s close friends with Shanahan. And he’s pretty candid. He was so candid they had to cut him off the line lol.

He also didn’t say Shanny was you know controlling things but if you listen he frames how Shanny is finally building the team the way he wants ect and dives a little into the conversations he’s had with Shanny about the construction of the team.

 

[francis246]

We don't know what they base his performance on. I'd be surprised if the Board wouldn't fire him if they found him underperforming.

I’ve said it before I think Shanny has done well bridging the gap between the alumni and the community among other things. So from a business standpoint I think they feel he’s done fine. I don’t know what they feel about the on ice product