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Wow.
Is this real news or just a rumor for now?

I get that IIHF wants to give sanctions for Hockey Canada's sexual abuse / harassment scandal.
But it feels so wrong and unfair to make players who don't have nothing to do
with those sickening illegal actions

Only who's responsible are those management staff member
who have knew for this many years and still they haven't told anyone what has happened.

Fire and ban all those idiots and morons who have been involved in this sickening shit.
But let the 2003 born Team Canada participate for upcoming U20 WJC in Halifax and Moncton.
 
Hamilton Bulldogs said:
told yall not to ban russia.

but ya didn't LISTEN DID YA
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War and violent invasion is totally different and more serious thing than sexual abuse / sexual harassment.
Russia's IIHF ban was political decision and made for political reasons.

Yes rape is crime and those who are guilty should get arrested and charged of their illegal actions.
But banning entire 2003 born Team Canada who have nothing to do with that sickening shit
is so wrong as ever can be it shouldn't be innocent players who have to pay the price.

Yes hockey Canada's managent has screwed up big time for a long time.
But still let 2003 born Team Canada play their home 2023 U20 WJC tournament as planned.
 
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ChicagoBullsFan said:
War and violent invasion is totally different and more serious thing than sexual abuse / sexual harassment.
Russia's IIHF ban was political decision and made for political reasons.

Yes rape is crime and those who are guilty should get arrested and charged of their illegal actions.
But banning entire 2003 born Team Canada who have nothing to do with that sickening shit
is so wrong as ever can be it shouldn't be innocent players who have to pay the price.

Yes hockey Canada's managent has screwed up big time for a long time.
But still let 2003 born Team Canada play their home 2023 U20 WJC tournament as planned.
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Didn't innocent Russian players have to pay the price for their government?
 
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As a Canadian I think it's only right. Hockey Canada is proving to be a truly sickening and despicable organization that are essentially refusing to take action to fix a major, damning issue... And it seems like with the ongoing financial situation emerging as well that Hockey Canada has far more secrets that are being kept that would only make them look even worse.


So yeah, it absolutely sucks for the 18 year olds right now who haven't committed any crimes or done anything wrong... But IMO Hockey Canada should be held accountable and yeah the IIHF should take action if Hockey Canada will continue to try and cover this shit up and sweep it under the rug.



*At least for the Mens program. The Women's program absolutely should not suffer.
 
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Let's have a show of hands to who has heard of this organization?

North American division of the World Association of Ice Hockey Players Union (WAIPU)

This whole thing sounds like a Kafka plot and seriously those equating the Russian situation with HC need to give their head a shake, talk about a false equalivanacy.
 
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wetcoast said:
Let's have a show of hands to who has heard of this organization?

North American division of the World Association of Ice Hockey Players Union (WAIPU)

This whole thing sounds like a Kafka plot and seriously those equating the Russian situation with HC need to give their head a shake, talk about a false equalivanacy.
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Amen to that.
 
wetcoast said:
Let's have a show of hands to who has heard of this organization?

North American division of the World Association of Ice Hockey Players Union (WAIPU)

This whole thing sounds like a Kafka plot and seriously those equating the Russian situation with HC need to give their head a shake, talk about a false equalivanacy.
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Look at their news section of their website, such a hive of activity.

News

www.waipu.org www.waipu.org
 
ChicagoBullsFan said:
Wow.
Is this real news or just a rumor for now?

I get that IIHF wants to give sanctions for Hockey Canada's sexual abuse / harassment scandal.
But it feels so wrong and unfair to make players who don't have nothing to do
with those sickening illegal actions
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They'll live. It's a little more important to discourage this kind of crap from ever happening again.
 
ChicagoBullsFan said:
Wow.
Is this real news or just a rumor for now?

I get that IIHF wants to give sanctions for Hockey Canada's sexual abuse / harassment scandal.
But it feels so wrong and unfair to make players who don't have nothing to do
with those sickening illegal actions
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It's more unfair for this corrupt organizations victims to watch the same organization continue to pick up accolades and operate like normal.

Its just a hockey game. Priorities need to put ethics first. That means punishing and sanctioning the organization.
 
I see it more likely that they would compete like Russia did after doping cases - no national symbols or anthem when winning.
 
Hamilton Bulldogs said:
told yall not to ban russia.

but ya didn't LISTEN DID YA
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One has nothing to do with the other. If the IIHF wants to suspend Hockey Canada for 2-3-4 tournaments, or until Hockey Canada purges its leadership or is itself dissolved and something else replaces it, I'll support that decision.

Russia should remain banned for the foreseeable future.
 
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Gold Standard said:
One has nothing to do with the other. If the IIHF wants to suspend Hockey Canada for 2-3-4 tournaments, or until Hockey Canada purges its leadership or is itself dissolved and something else replaces it, I'll support that decision.

Russia should remain banned for the foreseeable future.
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I also don't think that theses two situations can be compared. One possiblity could be that it's handled the same way like the russian athletes in olympics due to the doping scandal (ROC) and there is a team with canadian players but not representing hockey canada
 
Gold Standard said:
One has nothing to do with the other. If the IIHF wants to suspend Hockey Canada for 2-3-4 tournaments, or until Hockey Canada purges its leadership or is itself dissolved and something else replaces it, I'll support that decision.

Russia should remain banned for the foreseeable future
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Banning Russia opened up a can of worms that will likely continue to hurt international hockey. Once you operate under the “we can punish athletes for something they had nothing to do with” principal, anything can happen.
 
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Hamilton Bulldogs said:
Banning Russia opened up a can of worms that will likely continue to hurt international hockey. Once you operate under the “we can punish athletes for something they had nothing to do with” principal, anything can happen.
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Too bad. Let young Canadian players understand that there will be consequences to criminal behavior. It's not good enough to walk into a hockey arena dressed up in your Sunday best outfit pretending to be fine upstanding young men, you actually have to be and not simply act like you are. If it takes the IIHF banning Canadian teams for a few years until Hockey Canada dissolves, then so be it.

The international game will survive.
 
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gwell66 said:
It's more unfair for this corrupt organizations victims to watch the same organization continue to pick up accolades and operate like normal.

Its just a hockey game. Priorities need to put ethics first. That means punishing and sanctioning the organization.
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I do understand that IIHF wants to give sanctions of those illegal actions in Hockey Canada.
IIHF president Luc Tardif should realize that Canadian 2003 born U20 national team
hasn't done nothing illegal so IIHF should let Canadian players play.

Yes all those peoples who have been involved on that sickening shit
should carry the responsibility of their illegal actions and face consequnces like adults.
It is not right to make innocent players pay the price of mistakes what management has done.

If IIHF really is banning Canada from international hockey then so be it.
But this decision if it happens is sport related so it isn't comparable for Russia's IIHF ban.

Russia was banned for political reasons so it was totally different situation.
If IIHF wants to world cup in February 2024 happen then they shouldn't ban Team Canada.
If Canada gets banned then it also means that 2024 world cup won't happen.

And also it means that we all have to wait 2026 winter olympics to see best on best tournament.
Of course rules should be fair all participants but lets see what IIHF decides.

If Canada truly is out of upcoming U20 WJC's in Halifax and Moncton
that will cause revenue losses for Hockey Canada and IIHF.

Yes Finland's chances to win next U20 WJC's gets better if Canada is banned.
And of course i wanna see my country to celebrate gold medal once again in Canadian ice surface.
Finland has been medals ( 1 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze ) last 3 ( 2019, 2021, 2022 )
U20 WJC's which are held in Canada.

And there is something special when Finland and Canada are playing for gold.
So i truly hope that IIHF allows Canada's participation in upcoming U20 WJC's.
 
Gold Standard said:
The international game will survive
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That might be true, but will anyone be watching? Is there any prestige in winning a tournament without Canada and Russia? Is there any reason for prospects to leave their club teams and families durning the holidays to play two meaningful games in an entire tournament? How many scouts are going to be eager to watch team Finland pummel Denmark?


Is there any money to be made for this tournament without Canada? How did the under 18s do last summer without Canada? I honestly didn’t hear anything about that tournament and it still had a better field as they at least had Russia.
 
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We've already had multiple IIHF tournaments without Russia (and Belarus), their absence has barely been noticeable. It should be possible to target involved people from Hockey Canada without excluding a Canadian team altogether.
 
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Gold Standard said:
One has nothing to do with the other. If the IIHF wants to suspend Hockey Canada for 2-3-4 tournaments, or until Hockey Canada purges its leadership or is itself dissolved and something else replaces it, I'll support that decision.

Russia should remain banned for the foreseeable future.
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68. DISSOLUTION
68.1 Hockey Canada may be dissolved by a Special Resolution passed by the Members of Hockey Canada, at a Members’ Meeting.
68.2 If Hockey Canada is dissolved, its assets shall be liquidated and transferred to a Qualified Donee selected by the Members by a Special Resolution passed by the Members at a Members’ Meeting.
68.3 A Special Resolution passed by the Members is required to make any change concerning the distribution of property remaining on liquidation after the discharge of any liabilities of Hockey Canada.
 
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