Triumph
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Rykov might have played in the NHL if he hadn’t gotten injured in Rangers training camp and didn’t return start playing in Hartford until early December. Rykov’s under contract but he has a European Assignment Clause so I don’t know that he won’t come over for Hartford. ( And don’t care enough to find out.)
It does feel like it might be harder to lure defensive defensemen over to NA compared to offensive players since the bigger paydays aren’t often there for that position. That’s why the Coyotes’ Lyubushkin is an interesting case, he’s a pretty old school defensive defenseman, but he was signed as free agent when he a top defenseman in the KHL. I have no idea if NHL types even identified him as a prospect in ~2013 though.
I don't think it's money. Even back-pairing D when they make it to UFA age get contracts for $2M which is probably something like $500,000 after taxes and escrow. I am skeptical guys like this get paid this much in Russia but I really don't know. I think it's more that it's a foreign country and your place in the organization is very fluid. Yakovlev came over and bounced between Binghamton and here. Had he stayed in North America, he could've easily been traded, subject to waivers, or whatever - it's one thing to play in a foreign country, yet another to be potentially on the move at any point.
As for Rykov, Brooks noted that he did not come back to North America for the Return to Play in July - I may have closed the door on his North American career too early but I suspect he won't be coming back.
There are that many Russian defensemen, either from juniors or the KHL organizations, drafted each year. Some of that drop off comes from shortening the NHL draft in 2004. Obviously that meant less drafted players in general but it goes from 2000-2002 having a dozen Russian defensemen a year to a low where (I’m pretty sure) Voynov was the only Russian defenseman drafted in 2008.
And yes, there were more Russian forwards being drafted then as well, with 25-30 Russian forwards being drafted in 2000-2002 while 7 forwards went in 2007 (and 2? in 2008). This also may have do with hesitancy to deal the KHL, Russian players unwillingness come over and maybe even the lowering of the UFA age.
I think the KHL dried up some of the picks but also Russia went through a pretty big dry spell. In 1999-2001, there were 19 Russians drafted in the 1st round and only 3 became average or above NHLers (Kovalchuk, Volchenkov, Frolov). Chistov, Svitov, Yakubov, Smirnov, Vorobiev - a lot of these guys didn't even become particularly good pros. So sure, there was Ovechkin and Malkin and Kovalchuk, but they were cant-miss superstars - I think NHL teams became a lot more wary of investing a 1st round pick over there.
I’ve gotten sidetracked but I will add in the last few years it has picked up with 3-6 Russian defensemen drafted (partly do to us lol) and there’s been huge surge in Russian forwards, who are back up to about 20 being drafted a year.
Also, Elite Prospects does list our scouts and their “stats”. Shero did add the Devils first Russian national scouts with Misha Manchik in 2016-17 and Andrei Plekhanov in 2018-19. Poking around other team’s roster (dear god I need to get a life) I noticed that Russian scouts are something that a bunch of teams have added for the first time in the last few years. Teams’ European scouts are traditionally Swedes, Finns and Czechs (or North American). Tampa has had a Russian scout since 1999-2000 which pretty unique, though I have not checked every team.
So maybe Russian defenders under-exploited source for potential NHL players. This scouting staff is clearly not afraid to draft two-way defensemen with less offensive upside or even a straight-up defensive defenseman. There are specific risks to drafting that style of player that probably applies to a defensive prospect from any country.
I’ve rambled enough but I do share your curiosity about our scouts’ passion for Russian defensemen.
It's no surprise that the Devils basically avoided Russia from 2006 until 2016, as they didn't have a dedicated scout for it. But when you hear the stories, that basically nobody scouted Pavel Datsyuk except Detroit, it is a bit surprising that teams hadn't invested more until now. That said, I'm very curious about youth hockey in Russia and how things have changed from the early 90s until now (if they have).