TV: Severance - Apple TV

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I dunno man, guess I'm just not as taken with it as it seems a lot of people on the internet are. Think the cast's legitimately fantastic performances are carrying a show that is overpromising and underdelivering on several things, mainly a coherent and sensical plot. Maybe that's what they're going for in some faux we're too smart for the meta sense but the amount of half baked plot lines that don't go anywhere seems messy to me.

Like if you're going to have Irving be secretly investigating Lumon and then just put him on a train to assumably deal with later fine. Or have Ricken's book be a hit for the innies and have him write a new one just for them and then just never mention it again fine. Or build a bunch of tension with Milchick and the other non-severed people at Lumon and have it go nowhere, sure whatever. Or do this whole re-integration thing and have it really not make much of a tangible impact whatsoever, you can even let that slide. But to have all this stuff and more just kind of floating around untethered after the season ends doesn't seem like it's done with a ton of purpose. Don't need it all wrapped up with a pretty bow, but shit tie some of it off better than that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it. Just wouldn't put it up with the upper echelon of TV shows based on what I've seen so far. Great concept and intriguing enough to keep you watching. The characters and the actors playing them are dynamic and engaging. Thought the finale was good enough, had some scenes I liked especially the camcorder back and forth with Mark. Still think there's a baby fitting in here somewhere.
 
I dunno man, guess I'm just not as taken with it as it seems a lot of people on the internet are. Think the cast's legitimately fantastic performances are carrying a show that is overpromising and underdelivering on several things, mainly a coherent and sensical plot. Maybe that's what they're going for in some faux we're too smart for the meta sense but the amount of half baked plot lines that don't go anywhere seems messy to me.

Like if you're going to have Irving be secretly investigating Lumon and then just put him on a train to assumably deal with later fine. Or have Ricken's book be a hit for the innies and have him write a new one just for them and then just never mention it again fine. Or build a bunch of tension with Milchick and the other non-severed people at Lumon and have it go nowhere, sure whatever. Or do this whole re-integration thing and have it really not make much of a tangible impact whatsoever, you can even let that slide. But to have all this stuff and more just kind of floating around untethered after the season ends doesn't seem like it's done with a ton of purpose. Don't need it all wrapped up with a pretty bow, but shit tie some of it off better than that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it. Just wouldn't put it up with the upper echelon of TV shows based on what I've seen so far. Great concept and intriguing enough to keep you watching. The characters and the actors playing them are dynamic and engaging. Thought the finale was good enough, had some scenes I liked especially the camcorder back and forth with Mark. Still think there's a baby fitting in here somewhere.
Yeah this is how I feel about the show. I enjoy it and it's fun, but I don't consider it comparable with the wire's of the world. That could change, but I think it's doubtful for me personally. For me to rank a show that high I really need it to move me on a different level and to really get me thinking about stuff and to challenge my perspective. This show is doing a good job and leaning more into the ethics of an innie, should they be treated like normal people etc etc. But the thing is, this topic has already been done several times in black mirror so this concept is not new to me.

I think they did a great job with the finale. Was probably my favourite episode of the season. Think I rank season 1 a step above season 2 though personally.
 
I dunno man, guess I'm just not as taken with it as it seems a lot of people on the internet are. Think the cast's legitimately fantastic performances are carrying a show that is overpromising and underdelivering on several things, mainly a coherent and sensical plot. Maybe that's what they're going for in some faux we're too smart for the meta sense but the amount of half baked plot lines that don't go anywhere seems messy to me.

Like if you're going to have Irving be secretly investigating Lumon and then just put him on a train to assumably deal with later fine. Or have Ricken's book be a hit for the innies and have him write a new one just for them and then just never mention it again fine. Or build a bunch of tension with Milchick and the other non-severed people at Lumon and have it go nowhere, sure whatever. Or do this whole re-integration thing and have it really not make much of a tangible impact whatsoever, you can even let that slide. But to have all this stuff and more just kind of floating around untethered after the season ends doesn't seem like it's done with a ton of purpose. Don't need it all wrapped up with a pretty bow, but shit tie some of it off better than that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it. Just wouldn't put it up with the upper echelon of TV shows based on what I've seen so far. Great concept and intriguing enough to keep you watching. The characters and the actors playing them are dynamic and engaging. Thought the finale was good enough, had some scenes I liked especially the camcorder back and forth with Mark. Still think there's a baby fitting in here somewhere.


Thank you for saying it much better than I ever could have.
 
I dunno man, guess I'm just not as taken with it as it seems a lot of people on the internet are. Think the cast's legitimately fantastic performances are carrying a show that is overpromising and underdelivering on several things, mainly a coherent and sensical plot. Maybe that's what they're going for in some faux we're too smart for the meta sense but the amount of half baked plot lines that don't go anywhere seems messy to me.

Like if you're going to have Irving be secretly investigating Lumon and then just put him on a train to assumably deal with later fine. Or have Ricken's book be a hit for the innies and have him write a new one just for them and then just never mention it again fine. Or build a bunch of tension with Milchick and the other non-severed people at Lumon and have it go nowhere, sure whatever. Or do this whole re-integration thing and have it really not make much of a tangible impact whatsoever, you can even let that slide. But to have all this stuff and more just kind of floating around untethered after the season ends doesn't seem like it's done with a ton of purpose. Don't need it all wrapped up with a pretty bow, but shit tie some of it off better than that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it. Just wouldn't put it up with the upper echelon of TV shows based on what I've seen so far. Great concept and intriguing enough to keep you watching. The characters and the actors playing them are dynamic and engaging. Thought the finale was good enough, had some scenes I liked especially the camcorder back and forth with Mark. Still think there's a baby fitting in here somewhere.
Very well said and I feel pretty much the same way. Good show, I enjoy it and will continue watching. Interesting premise and really good acting, but the storyline just seems to be all over the place. If someone asked me, "what is Severance about?" I'm not sure I could give them a good answer.
 
Any sci-fi is going to have some logical inconsistencies just due to the nature of the genre, since sci-fi is almost, by definition, inherently illogical to a degree (as it does not exist in our current world). I think Severance by-and-large has been very faithful to the rules they've established / are establishing, so no real complaints there.

I have no problem with ideas being introduced that aren't immediately paid off. Several plot points from S2 can be addressed in S3. That's just natural world-building. I mean heck, we already had
A goat appear is S1 with absolutely no further explanation, and people seemed cool with that, as most figured it would be further explained as the show went along, which it was.
So, you know, patience. :nod:

And while the world can be interesting, I agree that really, the true gold of the show is the innie/outtie relationship stuff, with all the external plot mostly serving as a catalyst for that to be further explored in new and different ways.
 
It is pretty cool that in the last 6 months my experience with this show has changed from annoyingly pleading with every person I meet to watch this show that I love that they've never heard of, into conversations about the show being "it's good, but I'm not so sure I'd put it up there with The Wire"
 
It is pretty cool that in the last 6 months my experience with this show has changed from annoyingly pleading with every person I meet to watch this show that I love that they've never heard of, into conversations about the show being "it's good, but I'm not so sure I'd put it up there with The Wire"
I am still absolutely annoyingly pleading with every person I meet to watch this show that I love... 90% of them say "I don't have Apple TV" lol.

I still think it's top tier. I'm fine with having a lot of loose ends, I trust them to tie it all together as the series moves on.
 
I don't share the same complaints on the things that haven't been explained yet, or the things that were introduced this season that were left ignored in the last few episodes -- other than Mark's reintegration.

Many things aren't going to be explained in one season but will in later seasons. Season 1 was no different there.
 

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