TV: Severance - Apple TV

finished season 2

8/10 ... felt a bit disjointed from S1 to S2 in terms of real broad view .. discovering what Lumon actually does .. why are we here? Like they changed writers after S1 but Stiller and Dan Erickson were active throughout S2 as well.

Without going into spoiler territory ... its great TV

S1 was a quest plot .. essentially an "escape room" storyline. what do we actually do here? Follow maps and clues to find the hidden treasure which answers your question.

S2 was a love story
Well we know part of what they do. Still some compelling plot questions to deal with next season.
 
Well we know part of what they do. Still some compelling plot questions to deal with next season.
S1 seemed like it was a corporate take over the world plot by having the chips implanted in everyone and Mark and his team were I guess guinea pigs to test how controllable the innies are ...

S2 seemed like it was not evil corporate plot but evil religious cult

Lumon def wants to bring their leader Keir back ... and Lumon def wants chips in as many people in the outer world as possible ....

Im guessing they want Ms. Casey to be a complete blank slate (zero memories or ghost of memories) so they can program Keir into her and thus Keir is re-born .. in a womans body?

Or they want to code everyone into Keir
 
S1 seemed like it was a corporate take over the world plot by having the chips implanted in everyone and Mark and his team were I guess guinea pigs to test how controllable the innies are ...

S2 seemed like it was not evil corporate plot but evil religious cult

Lumon def wants to bring their leader Keir back ... and Lumon def wants chips in as many people in the outer world as possible ....

Im guessing they want Ms. Casey to be a complete blank slate (zero memories or ghost of memories) so they can program Keir into her and thus Keir is re-born .. in a womans body?

Or they want to code everyone into Keir
See, none of that is immediately clear and still represents meat for the plot.

You could be right but I've never really liked the reviving Kier theory. The concept of the Four Tempers is tied to the building blocks of consciousness, sure. But Kier lived in the late 1800s and died in 1939. They likely didn't have the technology to map and preserve his consciousness. They have all his writings to draw from, sure, but from that you're basically creating a crude copy at best.

One thing I did find interesting on a rewatch on the finale and parts of season 1, the Kier animatronic seemed to be communicating in real time with Milchick and it seemed they both went off script. The easy answer is someone at Lumon is remotely communicating through the animatronic as "Kier". But the responses from the Kier animatronic had the same rough static you can hear on every call with the Board in season 1. I don't know if that means the Board is artificial intelligence copies of past Lumon CEOs as some have theorized or if someone from the board was communicating for the Kier puppet but it seemed like a notable audio cue to me.

In any case, it seems like the Gemma experiments were targeted more towards "Kier's war on pain" e.g., multiple innies created to sever people from traumatic or uncomfortable experiences. I don't think that represents the totality of what Lumon is up to per se, but it was considered the most important innovation in human history at least by them.

Still curious now how they handle two witnesses who could potentially ruin Lumon (Gemma and Cobel) out on the run, an emerging innie uprising, and having the 2 year Gemma experiment fail at the finish line. Gonna be a lot of complex storylines to stabilize.
 
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Well we know part of what they do. Still some compelling plot questions to deal with next season.
Do we know how they stay in business? Do they actually have a product or service that they sell? Maybe they're a gov't contractor, I could see certain government agencies being interested in this kind of technology. (I'm only partly joking).
 
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Do we know how they stay in business? Do they actually have a product or service that they sell? Maybe they're a gov't contractor, I could see certain government agencies being interested in this kind of technology. (I'm only partly joking).
They've mentioned before that they sell all kinds of products, including medical equipment. The stuff we see regarding Severance is all R&D.
 
See, none of that is immediately clear and still represents meat for the plot.
Man ... you and my wife should watch shows together. She can absorb, draw proper inferences, knows historical references, foreshadowing ... is really good at breaking down things logically

I feel so bad for her ... that she has me as her couch side kick

We can be 2 season into a show

me: "who is that guy in the red shirt?"
her: "Thats Mark, hes the main character honey .."

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IM just happy i caught up so smart people this shit to me
 
Man ... you and my wife should watch shows together. She can absorb, draw proper inferences, knows historical references, foreshadowing ... is really good at breaking down things logically

I feel so bad for her ... that she has me as her couch side kick

We can be 2 season into a show

me: "who is that guy in the red shirt?"
her: "Thats Mark, hes the main character honey .."

------------------------

IM just happy i caught up so smart people this shit to me
This show just tickled my brain. I don't know that I'd call myself wrong. I've had my own theories that ended up wrong. Plenty.
 
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