TV: Severance - Apple TV

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There wasd a big hint that Helena is the one downstairs in the first ep of S2 when she reached to turn on her computer and fumbled looking for the power button
I was reading a review and the reviewer also pointed out that an innie would never describe an apartment as boring, that they would be super fascinated by it
Right, I figure the evidence is stronger than not that it's Helena but I'm wondering if that's the point if they're making us think she's going in as the mole or if there's something else to it. I don't know why the show would make a point to continue to be ambiguous about it after all this set up unless they think they can still salvage a surprising twist for those that aren't cueing into context clues. Though, on the same hand the big twist with Ms. Casey/Gemma being alive was revealed before Mark's cliffhanger yell "She's Alive!" and the point wasn't the twist itself but how innie Mark reacted to it. So I suppose the same thing can apply here. At some point the other MDR gents will snuff out the difference between Helena and Helly and it will create a big dramatic wrinkle.
 
Right, I figure the evidence is stronger than not that it's Helena but I'm wondering if that's the point if they're making us think she's going in as the mole or if there's something else to it. I don't know why the show would make a point to continue to be ambiguous about it after all this set up unless they think they can still salvage a surprising twist for those that aren't cueing into context clues. Though, on the same hand the big twist with Ms. Casey/Gemma being alive was revealed before Mark's cliffhanger yell "She's Alive!" and the point wasn't the twist itself but how innie Mark reacted to it. So I suppose the same thing can apply here. At some point the other MDR gents will snuff out the difference between Helena and Helly and it will create a big dramatic wrinkle.
Yes!

I also think that "Helena" being down there will make her soft/humanize her. I think she was a little jealous/intrigued that Helly had a love interest. Note that she rewatched that footage

Like man rich or famous people, they really know if anyone like them for who they really are vs their money or fame. I'll have to rewatch season 2 Ep 1 but I kinda remember "Helena" flirting with Mark down on the Severed floor.
 
Yes!

I also think that "Helena" being down there will make her soft/humanize her. I think she was a little jealous/intrigued that Helly had a love interest. Note that she rewatched that footage

Like man rich or famous people, they really know if anyone like them for who they really are vs their money or fame. I'll have to rewatch season 2 Ep 1 but I kinda remember "Helena" flirting with Mark down on the Severed floor.
I rewatched the episode before episode 2 cause I was getting my brother to binge the whole series with me to get him caught up before I watched last night's episode. I thought it was more in the vein of Helena (if we conclude it is actually Helena) sort of assuming the budding romance between the two is stronger than it is and wanting to keep that leverage going strong. I mean yes we can interpret her rewatching the Helly/Mark kiss as her longing for a genuine human connection like that, but I think it's also possible that she felt that the relationship would be her key to manipulating and controlling Mark. So offering to help him find and free Gemma would be her adjusting to this new information on the fly. Helena probably already knew that Gemma was/is Mark's wife, but Mark finding out about it complicates her leverage.

Or the show might be intentionally throwing misdirection at us and it's just Helly R. back in there and she was legitimately concerned that her best and possibly only chance at a romantic relationship as an innie might disappear if innie Mark recaptures outie Mark's love and devotion to Gemma.

I'm probably out to lunch on the idea that it could be Helly but it feels a touch bizarre to me that they'd be this blunt/obvious about it.
 
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I rewatched the episode before episode 2 cause I was getting my brother to binge the whole series with me to get him caught up before I watched last night's episode. I thought it was more in the vein of Helena (if we conclude it is actually Helena) sort of assuming the budding romance between the two is stronger than it is and wanting to keep that leverage going strong. I mean yes we can interpret her rewatching the Helly/Mark kiss as her longing for a genuine human connection like that, but I think it's also possible that she felt that the relationship would be her key to manipulating and controlling Mark. So offering to help him find and free Gemma would be her adjusting to this new information on the fly. Helena probably already knew that Gemma was/is Mark's wife, but Mark finding out about it complicates her leverage.

Or the show might be intentionally throwing misdirection at us and it's just Helly R. back in there and she was legitimately concerned that her best and possibly only chance at a romantic relationship as an innie might disappear if innie Mark recaptures outie Mark's love and devotion to Gemma.

I'm probably out to lunch on the idea that it could be Helly but it feels a touch bizarre to me that they'd be this blunt/obvious about it.
well said
It'll be interesting to see which of our "theories" is closer to what unfolds.
This show is SOOOO well written than we also might both be totally off!!!

I can't wait!
 

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