Value of: Seth Jones to anywhere

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If the Hawks could retain $2.5m, I would love to have him on the Avalanche.

He’d slot in on the second pairing and with Makar as the #1 RHD, he wouldn’t need to be “the guy” and could just be a big, minute munching, two-way beast.

I also think Denver is one of the few places he would waive that NMC for. Born in Denver, his dad is Assistant GM for the Nuggets, and it’s a good team.

Avs would have interest. Without any clear Mittlestadt upgrade he should probably be the Avs #1 target.

Would need at least 2M retained, and send some money over (depending on retention amount), but there's probably a deal to be made there.

Avs will take a guy like Kurashev too as part of the package.
...who'd the Avs pair him with??...Girard??...not a lot of defensive acumen there, imo...
 
...who'd the Avs pair him with??...Girard??...not a lot of defensive acumen there, imo...
Yes Girard. And I think you're underrating both Jones' and Girard's defensive acumen. Jones is playing #1 minutes right now, players look a lot different in more sheltered roles. Definitely and upgrade on Manson, and ideally he shifts down to the 3rd pair.

There's a lot of interesting trading options with Chicago give your glut of talented young D. Avs have the pieces to get something done IMO
 
Yes Girard. And I think you're underrating both Jones' and Girard's defensive acumen. Jones is playing #1 minutes right now, players look a lot different in more sheltered roles. Definitely and upgrade on Manson, and ideally he shifts down to the 3rd pair.

There's a lot of interesting trading options with Chicago give your glut of talented young D. Avs have the pieces to get something done IMO
...eh, I agree he's probably an upgrade on Manson; that guy always looks like he just chases hits around the ice and then gets hurt when he hits someone...
 
Pens can take a shot at him. And Karlsson can be traded more easily by the hawks because of his contract.

Karlsson for Jones + 2nd (no retention either side)

Hawks can then retain 3 or 4M and trade Karlsson for a 1st+

So Hawks basically save 5M, get out of Jones contract, and move from a 2nd (albeit a high one) into the first round.

Pens get a 2nd instead of a 1st, but don’t have to retain and maybe Jones can be a great player for us
 
Chicago's GM watching multiple Avs games recently and having Scouts at like 6 straight Avs and Eagles (AHL) games suggests there's a deal here waiting to be made between Chicago and Colorado.

It also just makes too much sense for both teams:

Jones' NMC makes him hard for Chicago to move, but Denver is a place he'd likely waive for.

From the Avs perspective CMac likes to have 5 good Dmen for the playoffs, but right now he only has 4, and Manson is injured a lot and a year from UFA. They need a 2RHD both right now and also in the future.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones
xxxx - Manson

That's a cup contender D group.

Just need $2m-2.5m retained to make it feasible.
 
Chicago's GM watching multiple Avs games recently and having Scouts at like 6 straight Avs and Eagles (AHL) games suggests there's a deal here waiting to be made between Chicago and Colorado.

It also just makes too much sense for both teams:

Jones' NMC makes him hard for Chicago to move, but Denver is a place he'd likely waive for.

From the Avs perspective CMac likes to have 5 good Dmen for the playoffs, but right now he only has 4, and Manson is injured a lot and a year from UFA. They need a 2RHD both right now and also in the future.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones
xxxx - Manson

That's a cup contender D group.

Just need $2m-2.5m retained to make it feasible.
Something indeed seems to be brewing but Jones' NMC makes it more like the Hawks are moving Teravainen, Bertuzzi, Foligno, or any other player that doesn't have a NMC
 
Hawks are not retaining $4.75M for 5 years

$1.5-2M at most

What you propose is not realistic nor would Panthers do it

Also, the biggest issue with Jones is his full NMC
Chicago either needs to bite the bullet and keep Jones for the balance of his contract or bite the bullet and retain 50% to move him off the roster for a modest, at best, return.
 
Call me crazy.... but with the cap going crazy... I think the Blackhaws could find a taker for Jones at full hit.

Now, it probably woudn't be a team that he'd waive to go to... which of course brings in the challenge.
 
Something indeed seems to be brewing but Jones' NMC makes it more like the Hawks are moving Teravainen, Bertuzzi, Foligno, or any other player that doesn't have a NMC

That's not relevant. Seth Jones would sprint across the prairies if he could get traded to Colorado. He's dying to get out Chicago, he's made it abundantly clear. He's even from Colorado. Stop bringing up his NMC.
 

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