Value of: Seth Jones to anywhere

[IceManCat]

To Chicago:

-Spencer Knight
-Mackie Samoskevich
-the rights to Matvei Shuravin

To Florida:

-Seth Jones (@50% retention)
-Arvid Soderblom
-Blackhawks 2025 2nd round pick
-Dallas 2025 2nd round pick

We give up our number one prospect with top line potential and future starting goalie for an overpaid, overrated middle six defender who can't defend. Astonishing trade.

Seth Jones for Huberdeau + 2026 1st

This is actually a good trade for both teams. Bedard gets his playmaker and the Flames are off the hook in just four years.

 

[TheNumber4]

We give up our number one prospect with top line potential and future starting goalie for an overpaid, overrated middle six defender who can't defend. Astonishing trade.



This is actually a good trade for both teams. Bedard gets his playmaker and the Flames are off the hook in just four years.

The overpaid portion of your critique is taken care of with the 50% retention. Knight could be that or could be nothing.

 

[WarriorofTime]

We give up our number one prospect with top line potential and future starting goalie for an overpaid, overrated middle six defender who can't defend. Astonishing trade.



This is actually a good trade for both teams. Bedard gets his playmaker and the Flames are off the hook in just four years.

Why would Huberdeau waive to come to the Blackhawks? Or even Jones to Calgary come to think of it? Fresh media starts?

Anyways, that trade would just be gambling that the CGY pick is top 10 (if top 10 protected, forget it). Huberdeau has one more year and costs $1 million more. With Jones positional scarcity compared to an abundance of semi-productive wingers, I would not do it.

 

[Kevin Musto]

This is actually a good trade for both teams. Bedard gets his playmaker and the Flames are off the hook in just four years.

It's bad for Chicago.

Huberdeau makes more than Jones and has an extra year.

Chicago isn't trading a bad contract for a worse one.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It's bad for Chicago.

Huberdeau makes more than Jones and has an extra year.

Chicago isn't trading a bad contract for a worse one.

lol yeah, Huberdeau is shooting double his career average, just to get to a 60 point pace with first line ice time.. turns 32 in the offseason and has 6 years left on a cap hit that's currently 13th highest of all players in the entire NHL

We live in a world where a 35 year old Chris Tanev gets a 6 year contract with a full NMC just so a playoff team can chase one year of a top 4 Righthanded Defenseman at a reasonable cap hit. Heck, Matt Dumba still secured an NHL contract this offseason. There's a reasonable chance Jones could get traded for nothing without retention, or for something decent with retention.

 

[Jets]

Logan Stanley
Alex Iafallo
Colby Barlow
2025 3rd
2026 2nd

for Seth Jones at 2M retained

 

[Kevin Musto]

Logan Stanley
Alex Iafallo
Colby Barlow
2025 3rd
2026 2nd

for Seth Jones at 2M retained

easy yes for Chicago

 

[stewy04]

Hawks are not retaining $4.75M for 5 years

$1.5-2M at most

What you propose is not realistic nor would Panthers do it

Also, the biggest issue with Jones is his full NMC

If you don't retain you keep. So.....

 

[Muffinalt]

Dallas is the way imo.

Jones has that annoying NMC so even if there is a trade to be made, he likely vetos any non contenders... Dallas was another team he was angling for at the time of the CBJ trade.

Seth Jones (9.5M)

for

Mason Marchment (4.5M)
Matt Dumba (3.75M)

The difference of 1.25M cap hit could be a Chicago retention for a 3rd/4th, or Nils Lundkvist.

Or just straight up Jones for Seguin? I'd prefer to the first option.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

It's bad for Chicago.

Huberdeau makes more than Jones and has an extra year.

Chicago isn't trading a bad contract for a worse one.

Hawks lack wingers with talent now and within coming years

We have plenty of D coming in pipeline so It's easier to deal with overpaid F with kids coming along than an overpaid D with kids coming along

Not having to retain for 5 years also would be benefit to Hawks

If you don't retain you keep. So.....

Rataining $1-2M is reasonable

Retaining $4.75M over 5 years is not

 

[North Cole]

I bet Jones kills it on a contender. I always liked his game.

At that caphit, he probably just kills the contender

 

[razor ray]

Dallas is the way imo.

Jones has that annoying NMC so even if there is a trade to be made, he likely vetos any non contenders... Dallas was another team he was angling for at the time of the CBJ trade.

Seth Jones (9.5M)

for

Mason Marchment (4.5M)
Matt Dumba (3.75M)

The difference of 1.25M cap hit could be a Chicago retention for a 3rd/4th, or Nils Lundkvist.

Or just straight up Jones for Seguin? I'd prefer to the first option.

I'm sure Chicago would trade Jones for Seguin.

Taylor Hall (50% retained) and Jones for Seguin and Dumba. Who adds?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I'm sure Chicago would trade Jones for Seguin.

Taylor Hall (50% retained) and Jones for Seguin and Dumba. Who adds?

Hawks can get a pick or prospect (Maybe both) for Hall at 50%

So adding him here makes no sense

 

[razor ray]

Hawks can get a pick or prospect (Maybe both) for Hall at 50%

So adding him here makes no sense

Dallas adds a 3rd does that work? RD and winger for a RD and winger & 3rd. Salaries all work.

 

[freelancer799]

I'm sure Chicago would trade Jones for Seguin.

Taylor Hall (50% retained) and Jones for Seguin and Dumba. Who adds?

Stars aren't trading Seguin and Seguin isn't waiving his NMC, what a ridiculous take

 

[TGWL]

Dallas is the way imo.

Jones has that annoying NMC so even if there is a trade to be made, he likely vetos any non contenders... Dallas was another team he was angling for at the time of the CBJ trade.

Seth Jones (9.5M)

for

Mason Marchment (4.5M)
Matt Dumba (3.75M)

The difference of 1.25M cap hit could be a Chicago retention for a 3rd/4th, or Nils Lundkvist.

Or just straight up Jones for Seguin? I'd prefer to the first option.

And what's the difference between 5 more years at 9.5 and 1 more year of both players included in the deal, not to mention Marchment having 27 points in 33 games..

 

[HighLifeMan]

Seth Jones for Huberdeau + 2026 1st

Absolutely no reason for Calgary to do that. We are not giving up the better player, and a potential lottery pick to bring in a player who would be the third best RD on this roster. I don't care if Huberdeau has an extra year on his deal.

Huberdeau is still a legitimately good hockey player despite what the hockeydb experts will tell you.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Huberdeau is still a legitimately good hockey player despite what the hockeydb experts will tell you.

No he is not

 

[John Mandalorian]

The question here is how much is the acquisition cost with retention. I think there would be teams interested if there is retention of between 2-3M, but obviously the cost goes up too.

So what is the ballpark cost with 2M retained and 3M retained?

If Jones isn’t really worth his AAV, it should be on Chicago to retain and it shouldn’t cost the acquiring team anything to retain. It should not be a default to pay for retention when the acquiring team didn’t make the mistake on the contract.

 

[HighLifeMan]

No he is not

You are free to believe what ever you want.

Huberdeau's most common linemate on the season has 2 goals and a career high of 24 points, yet people expect him to be a 90 point guy on this roster. He has played with 4 centermen this year, 3 of which have never played the position full time at the NHL level. With Kadri he has produced over a point a game. He leads the team in both point and goals, and has committed himself to playing and competing at both ends of the rink. Sure, he is overpaid, but the GM and fanbase are both very happy with his play this season.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

If nothing else, Oilers trading a good human being and a close friend of McDavid for a chud that's not known to get along with team mates is going to be a massive loss and face a ton of backlash.

What’s the background on this?

 

[WarriorofTime]

You are free to believe what ever you want.

Huberdeau's most common linemate on the season has 2 goals and a career high of 24 points, yet people expect him to be a 90 point guy on this roster. He has played with 4 centermen this year, 3 of which have never played the position full time at the NHL level. With Kadri he has produced over a point a game. He leads the team in both point and goals, and has committed himself to playing and competing at both ends of the rink. Sure, he is overpaid, but the GM and fanbase are both very happy with his play this season.

Them being happy because they resigned themselves to a player with second line production from first line opportunity until the age continues to creep up to the point of being barely playable doesn’t make make him good. He’d get half the aav and half the term of his remaining six years (so three years at $5.25 million) if he hit the market.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Unfortunately for Jones, HE forced his way out of Columbus and agreed to sign this contract.
Let him rot and enjoy the money. Golf starts in April, every year…

“Forced his way out” is the most mis-used phrase on this board. Just a completely false statement unless a guy is under contract but refusing to play until they’re traded.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

What’s the background on this?

If you look at his social media like twitter he follows a shit ton of reactionary people and constantly reposts their shit.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

If nothing else, Oilers trading a good human being and a close friend of McDavid for a chud that's not known to get along with team mates is going to be a massive loss and face a ton of backlash.

"Chud"
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