Claimed off Waivers: Seth Griffith to Toronto

[Mpasta]

Chances of Boston not reclaiming him?

No, we have no room for him. I would have liked for Sweeney to try to deal him last year for a 3rd or 4th or something but he was just going to stay in the AHL this season with the players coming up in the system who are doing better than he was.

 

[wintersej]

Damn, 1.35 PPG in the AHL last year and he can play centre? Very intriguing pickup. I like it.

He is a winger, really. Hasn't played C full time in years.

He is very slight of frame with mediocre skating. Great IQ. Might be a offensive 3rd liner that is a defensive liability, but most likely is a tweener. Nothing to get excited about, honestly.

 

[Estlin]

Griffith's sole highlight while playing for Boston:

 

[613Leafer]

Because nothing he did in Providence translated in the NHL. He has already been passed by other prospects. He's a career AHLer in my opinion. Not much of a loss for Boston.

He has 34 NHL games under his belt... that's like the definition of giving up on a guy too early.

I'm not saying he will become something, just that the sample size is way too small to write him off.

 

[zaYG]

Good luck Seth. He has lots of offensive talent but it is highly unlikely he can ever be an NHL player. He is just too slow.

 

[Mpasta]

He has 34 NHL games under his belt... that's like the definition of giving up on a guy too early.

I'm not saying he will become something, just that the sample size is way too small to write him off.

He's played in the last few preseasons with us and has been beaten by younger or newer guys every time. It's not like we didn't play him in Boston because we were too stacked. We brought up or claimed a decent amount of players because we thought they were better than Griffith.

However, we did something similar with Reilly Smith so maybe I'll be wrong again.

 

[zaYG]

He's played in the last few preseasons with us and has been beaten by younger or newer guys every time. It's not like we didn't play him in Boston because we were too stacked. We brought up or claimed a decent amount of players because we thought they were better than Griffith.

However, we did something similar with Reilly Smith so maybe I'll be wrong again.

Smith was a "low hockey IQ" guy (in reality his hockey IQ was okay, but his confidence was clearly lost which didn't help) with lots of tools. Griffith is pretty much the complete opposite. He has great hockey IQ but he seems to lack the ability to take advantage of his skills when he can't skate or muscle his way to open positions around the net against NHL talent.

 

[Mpasta]

Smith was a "low hockey IQ" guy (in reality his hockey IQ was okay, but his confidence was clearly lost which didn't help) with lots of tools. Griffith is pretty much the complete opposite. He has great hockey IQ but he seems to lack the ability to take advantage of his skills when he can't skate or muscle his way to open positions around the net against NHL talent.

I agree. The comparison I was making is that both started off hot with the team then fell off then left the team. I don't see Griffith's skills being able to make it in today's NHL.

However, I think he can be a decent fit for Toronto while their other prospects mature.

 

[member 157595]

I agree. The comparison I was making is that both started off hot with the team then fell off then left the team. I don't see Griffith's skills being able to make it in today's NHL.

However, I think he can be a decent fit for Toronto while their other prospects mature.

My issue from a TO standpoint is that I'm not sure where he fits right now. I'm not disappointed by the claim, just confused.

 

[613Leafer]

My issue from a TO standpoint is that I'm not sure where he fits right now. I'm not disappointed by the claim, just confused.

They claimed Corrado early last year, and pretty much didn't let him play for ~3-4 months.

Maybe they'll do the same with Griffith, just hold onto him until an injury creates an opening.

 

[BruinsBtn]

I've been told for the past 5 years that the Leafs always had 20 prospects better than him. Guess not.

Sticking with him on the line with Lucic and Krejci for far too long was an experiment that cost them the playoffs.

Anyway, good luck to him, he'll get an NHL paycheque for awhile now. For a guy who isn't big or fast, he's made the most of it. No one had him pencilled in anywhere in the Bruins lineup.

 

[SprDaVE]

I've been told for the past 5 years that the Leafs always had 20 prospects better than him. Guess not.

Who told you that? I'm sure you made that up.

The Leafs will all ready ice 6 rookies in the lineup tomorrow. They obviously like Griffith enough to be a decent depth player and someone to take a chance on. I don't think it means much more than that.

 

[BruinDust]

Chances of Boston not reclaiming him?

Or a team in between TO and Boston on the waiver priority order. How do we know no other team put in a claim considering TO had first dibs on the waiver wire having finished 30th.

Glad for Griffith. He's a good kid. Very good vision, great, great hands. Hands are soft as butter.

His skating gets knocked but its not terrible. Bit of a choppy stride but he can get around.

The biggest knock on him IMO is he's a pretty perimeter player. Not great along the wall, doesn't go to the dirty areas consistently, at least at the NHL level.

 

[toasterjam]

I got to see Griffith in Providence a whole bunch over the years and have always liked him as a player.

Last season his line was just amazing, on fire. He has lots of skills, good puck handling, good vision, passing. He played pretty good in his time in Boston (2014-15), especially scoring that one highlight reel goal.

I think the big issue is yea he needs to play in the top 9 and have other talented guys to play with. I don't think he can do it with grinders.

He isnt a very big guy at all, not very strong on the puck..needs to work on that. His offensive awareness is good enough to become a solid top 9 player I think.

There is just no room on boston and he wouldnt make it on our 4th line. On top of that he did not have a very impressive preseason so I think that really hurt him, you get passed over by a few guys and so despite tearing up the AHL last year, he doesn't get another shot. He didn't look great in his games with boston last season but the season before he got some ice time on the Bergeron line and I saw some flashes there.


Overall I loved watching him in his time in Providence, he is undersized but super talented and hope he overcomes that. Seems like a lot of teams have these kind of prospects, good luck in Toronto Seth!

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

I've been told for the past 5 years that the Leafs always had 20 prospects better than him. Guess not.

Sticking with him on the line with Lucic and Krejci for far too long was an experiment that cost them the playoffs.

Anyway, good luck to him, he'll get an NHL paycheque for awhile now. For a guy who isn't big or fast, he's made the most of it. No one had him pencilled in anywhere in the Bruins lineup.

If im not mistaken Griffith was taken in 2012 and its 2016.

 

[Schenn]

Loved Griffith when he was on the Knight's. He's smart, hopefully he can just get his feet up to speed.

 

[Jani8]

If im not mistaken Griffith was taken in 2012 and its 2016.

2012
2013
2014
2015
2016

I think it has been mentioned before but I think your friends were making fun at you when they called you "Hockey guru"

 

[Stealth JD]

Intriguing guy for at 13th/14th forward roster-spot...but if he's in the lineup regularly for Toronto, they're either tanking for another top-pick or they've been ravaged by injuries.

 

[Razz]

I've been told for the past 5 years that the Leafs always had 20 prospects better than him. Guess not.

Sticking with him on the line with Lucic and Krejci for far too long was an experiment that cost them the playoffs.

Anyway, good luck to him, he'll get an NHL paycheque for awhile now. For a guy who isn't big or fast, he's made the most of it. No one had him pencilled in anywhere in the Bruins lineup.

Sorry, I'm not following. What does picking up a free asset on the waiver wire have to do with the prospect rankings exactly?

 

[JayKing]

Another London Knight. He's good though. I think Leaf fans will like him more than Connor Brown

 

[izzy]

Koko, Griffith and Vatrano all dominated the AHL last year

See how Griffith does with a different system

 

[uncleben]

They claimed Corrado early last year, and pretty much didn't let him play for ~3-4 months.

Maybe they'll do the same with Griffith, just hold onto him until an injury creates an opening.

To be fair, Corrado was tending an undisclosed injury from the off-season when we first claimed him. He had been cleared to play with Vancouver, but both Corrado and TOR MGMT agreed not to rush him in to the lineup, and let him feel it out.

He rested, rehabbed, and trained, and then got the conditioning stint in the AHL. Games missed after that were healthy scratches.

 

[nmbr_24]

He has 34 NHL games under his belt... that's like the definition of giving up on a guy too early.

I'm not saying he will become something, just that the sample size is way too small to write him off.

He didn't make the team, they didn't give up on him too early, they just had better players who played better this preseason and passed him. I believe it was a hard decision for them to make but when he got beat out by four or five other players for the spots on the team what else are they going to do? According to rumors they tried to make a trade at the end of last season to get him somewhere that he would be able to have a better chance at making an impact but there was no deal to be had. That is not giving up on someone.

 

[Mpasta]

Sorry, I'm not following. What does picking up a free asset on the waiver wire have to do with the prospect rankings exactly?

I'm not saying I agree with the other guy but one could argue that if the Leafs have 20 prospects better than Griffith then they should be playing one of those players over him. But I understand that they probably think it's better to have a guy with some NHL games under his belt on the 3rd line instead of even more rookies.

 

[Curufinwe]

He must be better than Jordan Weal since Weal wasn't claimed.