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So they were eye-test guys?

I don't know what kind "tests" those two were conducting but they were definitely both old-school guys who thought they knew what they were doing because they "were good hockey men".

So probably some kind of eye test. They were, as already pointed out, just idiots though.
 
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I don't know what kind "tests" those two were conducting but they were definitely both old-school guys who thought they knew what they were doing because they "were good hockey men".

So probably some kind of eye test. They were, as already pointed out, just idiots though.
So "Idiot Eye-Test Guys"! :)

The D is without a doubt improved with Kleven and Jenson rather than Chychrun and Brannstrom
I am not convinced that the D is improved without a doubt.
 

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I don't think they're going to like him. Especially if he continues his play from last season with his one armed defending, playing not to get hurt, giving up on plays, etc.
I think the Washington fans will like his assists on Ovechkin goals! I think they will also like not having Jensen on D. :)
 

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I don't think they're going to like him. Especially if he continues his play from last season with his one armed defending, playing not to get hurt, giving up on plays, etc.
If his role is to be an offensive Dman with PP1 time, he should be fine as long as his pairing partner takes care of the D stuff. Also a new contract year so he'll be motivated.
 

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If his role is to be an offensive Dman with PP1 time, he should be fine as long as his pairing partner takes care of the D stuff. Also a new contract year so he'll be motivated.
There is no chance he's getting the top PP spot over John Carlson.

Still - I expect he'll be a lot better for Washington than he was in Ottawa. He's going to play his natural side with a partner that can complement him [probably Matt Roy?], those are two things he never really got in Ottawa. Plus, as you said, contract season for him.

There is an argument that Chychrun was the worst defensive defender in the league last season. Certainly many of that statistical models suggest that to be the case. There's almost nowhere to go but up.
 
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If his role is to be an offensive Dman with PP1 time, he should be fine as long as his pairing partner takes care of the D stuff. Also a new contract year so he'll be motivated.

As Ouro said, he might be paired with Matt Roy so that could be really beneficial for him. I think the table below highlights his strengths and weaknesses well. That was from the end of February

He creates a lot of offense with his elite shot (5th best goal scoring D-man in the NHL since 2019-20 when he was 21 y/o). Only Makar, Josi, Hamilton and Werenski have a better GPG during the last 5 years. He's not a really good playmaker though. He struggles against heavy forecheck as his decision making is a bit like Ceci and takes a microsecond too much time. He retrieves the puck well but you have to give him a quick exit option or he might struggle and turn it over (which is frankly the case for most D-men except those who excel at transition like Chabot or Karlsson)

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I think he'll have a 45+ pts season with more stable defensive play. This trade is most likely going to look like a huge loss for us, unfortunately.
 

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As Ouro said, he might be paired with Matt Roy so that could be really beneficial for him. I think the table below highlights his strengths and weaknesses well. That was from the end of February

He creates a lot of offense with his elite shot (5th best goal scoring D-man in the NHL since 2019-20 when he was 21 y/o). Only Makar, Josi, Hamilton and Werenski have a better GPG during the last 5 years. He's not a really good playmaker though. He struggles against heavy forecheck as his decision making is a bit like Ceci and takes a microsecond too much time. He retrieves the puck well but you have to give him a quick exit option or he might struggle and turn it over (which is frankly the case for most D-men except those who excel at transition like Chabot or Karlsson)

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I think he'll have a 45+ pts season with more stable defensive play. This trade is most likely going to look like a huge loss for us, unfortunately.
Just getting a stable guy like Jensen is a big win. We saw Chychrun in Ottawa so it’s irrelevant what he does in Washington.
 

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If his role is to be an offensive Dman with PP1 time, he should be fine as long as his pairing partner takes care of the D stuff. Also a new contract year so he'll be motivated.
He's not playing the pp over Carlson. So unless they plan on going two D men he won't have that role. That's the thing with Chychrun he's a good offensive d man but he's not a pp 1 guy on most nhl teams.
 

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As Ouro said, he might be paired with Matt Roy so that could be really beneficial for him. I think the table below highlights his strengths and weaknesses well. That was from the end of February

He creates a lot of offense with his elite shot (5th best goal scoring D-man in the NHL since 2019-20 when he was 21 y/o). Only Makar, Josi, Hamilton and Werenski have a better GPG during the last 5 years. He's not a really good playmaker though. He struggles against heavy forecheck as his decision making is a bit like Ceci and takes a microsecond too much time. He retrieves the puck well but you have to give him a quick exit option or he might struggle and turn it over (which is frankly the case for most D-men except those who excel at transition like Chabot or Karlsson)

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I think he'll have a 45+ pts season with more stable defensive play. This trade is most likely going to look like a huge loss for us, unfortunately.
Ottawa doesn't have a Matt Roy to play with him. So who was going to cover up for him? RHD are scarce. You know what Ottawa does have now a RHD to play with Chabot. Who they got for..... Chychrun. Crazy concept eh. Maybe that perspective can be applied here in Ottawas evaluation.

Supply and demand lhd men are easy to get. Especially ones who suck defenisvely. Chychrun is on an expiring deal and was playing a role he was not suited for here so no him not competing and pouting won't be seen 'as a huge loss'.
 

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As Ouro said, he might be paired with Matt Roy so that could be really beneficial for him. I think the table below highlights his strengths and weaknesses well. That was from the end of February

He creates a lot of offense with his elite shot (5th best goal scoring D-man in the NHL since 2019-20 when he was 21 y/o). Only Makar, Josi, Hamilton and Werenski have a better GPG during the last 5 years. He's not a really good playmaker though. He struggles against heavy forecheck as his decision making is a bit like Ceci and takes a microsecond too much time. He retrieves the puck well but you have to give him a quick exit option or he might struggle and turn it over (which is frankly the case for most D-men except those who excel at transition like Chabot or Karlsson)

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I think he'll have a 45+ pts season with more stable defensive play. This trade is most likely going to look like a huge loss for us, unfortunately.
Chychrun is a defensive liability. I can count on one hand the number of d-men who have gone through this organization who looked as lost or uninterested in playing defense as he did. The worst part is he's in his prime; he's not changing his game significantly at this point.

From an asset value perspective, we were always going to lose a trade. From a positional standpoint (RD), I believe we won, even if Jensen is a borderline #4/5 d-man.
 

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Ottawa doesn't have a Matt Roy to play with him. So who was going to cover up for him? RHD are scarce. You know what Ottawa does have now a RHD to play with Chabot. Who they got for..... Chychrun. Crazy concept eh. Maybe that perspective can be applied here in Ottawas evaluation.

Supply and demand lhd men are easy to get. Especially ones who suck defenisvely. Chychrun is on an expiring deal and was playing a role he was not suited for here so no him not competing and pouting won't be seen 'as a huge loss'.
Lets see if Jensen has a bounce back year
 

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Lets see if Jensen has a bounce back year
His skating looks fine which is what everyone was complaining about that apparently was dialed into a stay at home d man who plays on Washington. Did you watch him alot last year?

I think the same should be said about Chychrun. His last 40 games were an absolute embarrassment last year. Guy was afraid of his own shadow. Never seen anything like a person in the prime of their life a physical specimen avoid contact like he did. That game against Florida towards the end of the season was wild to watch.
 

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His skating looks fine which is what everyone was complaining about that apparently was dialed into a stay at home d man who plays on Washington. Did you watch him alot last year?

I think the same should be said about Chychrun. His last 40 games were an absolute embarrassment last year. Guy was afraid of his own shadow. Never seen anything like a person in the prime of their life a physical specimen avoid contact like he did. That game against Florida towards the end of the season was wild to watch.
Jensen def looks decent so far but its only pre-season. Lets see in-season games. Def curious to see if he can carry mins on the right side.

I think Chychrun has more potential to bounce back and to improve given his age aswell as with his skating and skills.

Last season sens were a mess
 

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Jensen def looks decent so far but its only pre-season. Lets see in-season games. Def curious to see if he can carry mins on the right side.

I think Chychrun has more potential to bounce back and to improve given his age aswell as with his skating and skills.

Last season sens were a mess
Chychruns talent has never been an issue he'd be a norris winner if he wanted to be. There was a reason Arizona moved on. We witnessed it first hand. I don't think a guy's attitude is gonna change at age 27. Not one that was flown from Florida to Detroit every weekend to play hockey growing up. But maybe I will be wrong.
 

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Chychruns talent has never been an issue he'd be a norris winner if he wanted to be. There was a reason Arizona moved on. We witnessed it first hand. I don't think a guy's attitude is gonna change at age 27. Not one that was flown from Florida to Detroit every weekend to play hockey growing up. But maybe I will be wrong.
Chychrun asked to be traded. I would be more concerned about a player who wanted to stay in Arizona long term...absolute joke of a franchise. What attitude issues? Seems made up just cause he left here
 

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Is Addison still in camp? He looks like an addition by subtraction candidate to me. Downy soft.
 

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Chychrun asked to be traded. I would be more concerned about a player who wanted to stay in Arizona long term...absolute joke of a franchise. What attitude issues? Seems made up just cause he left here
I have a friend in the organization of Arizona. Called the chychrun situation to a tee. How he would come in hot, play well. There would be some sort of injury situation then when things wouldn't go his way he would check out...

You dont think a player not trying for the better part of half the season isn't an attitude issue?... he wouldn't go into the corner or engage in contact.
 
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I have a friend in the organization of Arizona. Called the chychrun situation to a tee. How he would come in hot, play well. There would be some sort of injury situation then when things wouldn't go his way he would check out...

You dont think a player not trying for the better part of half the season isn't an attitude issue?... he wouldn't go into the corner or engage in contact.
I am not sure I agree with this. His play tailed off but so did most of the team. I would say there is more at play here than an individual player. I wouldn't be surprised to see him excel on a more stable team/franchise like the Caps. Chychrun also didnt have an injury last year he played all games.

Your description can easily fit towards other guys like Chabot and Zub aswell all whose play really tailed off
 

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