OT: Sens Lounge: "Pleeease won't you be.....my neighboµr"

[L'Aveuglette]

Get down off your soapbox, and stop pretending you think you know everything about anyone…. There are consequences for the decisions people make.

Dude you literally live on top of a soapbox.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Pot meet kettle

Except all I posted was pictures/video nothing more…. You however pontificated about them, assuming you knew what my motive was behind the posting…. So NOT pot or kettle…

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Dude you literally live on top of a soapbox.

Please quote my comments that accompanied the pictures/video I posted on sugar content in food and drinks….

I’ll wait…….

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Please quote my comments that accompanied the pictures/video I posted on sugar content in food and drinks….

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New account, same old fuhr

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

New account, same old fuhr

Not sure what you’re talking about…. Only have this account…and it’s been a while

 

[Beech]

Do you really think that people don't know this shit isn't good for you?

Ever consider the possibility that groceries are expensive as f*** for a lot of people, and they cant afford to feed their family organic tomatos, free range chicken and Italian olive oil?

They buy rice, pasta and ground beef when they have time to cook and giant tiger lasagna or kraft dinner and hot dogs when they don't.

Easy to say eat healthy nutritious food when you have a job you love that doesnt leave you exhausted and burnt at the end of the day and you have the money to afford it. You can buy a massive processed lasagna for 12 bucks on sale, it costs at least 40 to make it from scratch and takes am hour or 2 to prepare before you throw it in the oven.

Nutrition is more and more a luxury for those who can afford it. If you've got 5 bucks cause rent is due, youre not buying a f***ing avacodo or two amd apreading it on freshly baked rye, youre buying a bag of ruffles to pack in as many calories as you can. Actually you're probably grabbing dollarama brand sour cream and onion, cause you can get a giant bag for a twonie.

Pretentious bullshit right here. Get off the golf course and go talk to a homeless person, or someone on disability living in a bed bug infested rooming house that costs all but 100 bucks of their cheque so they have no choice but to eat at drop ins and shelters. Get their 2 cents on the matter.

Sugar in ketchup... f*** off with that shit.

Well put, but the argument is not about the socio-economic impact., but more about the basic science and basic information.

The reality is, Way more people are unaware of what is good for them or not.

Joe average person, will look at Ketchup, see tomato and say; healthy. He will look at a Big Mac, see; bread, beef, vegetables, sauce that is mayonnaise (derived from egg and milk) and say healthy. He will look at fries and see potatoes and say healthy.

And so issue 1 is; education on quality of food. To make sure people understand potato chips are not healthy.

My wife died of ovarian cancer. Lived on a steady diet of white bread. Toasted to bring out acrylamides. Lathered condiments, added cold cuts.. a side of potato chips and washed it down with a coke/Pepsi/7-up.

She and I did not know. Certainly pre Internet and pre 2000 or so, when much info began to circulate.

we saw white bread and did not understand refined carbs. Processed meat and did not understand the 100 issues. Condiments and their issues. Potato chips, Acrylamids!!!! soda and sugar and acid.

Plain and simply, she ate her way to ovarian cancer.

If I was to spit out every big mac I have eaten, I would fill a warehouse... Cancer at $5:99 for a combo.


Now as for socio-economic issues. Yes, mouths to feed and avocados do not cross. A $1.49 no-name bag of all dressed chips and a $1.49 compliments C-up, 2 L bottle, feeds.

But tragically, ill health, does not see paychecks, it sees carcinogens and other things, going into you.

And so all people, regardless of their position on life's economic rung, must make every effort to live healthy. Must learn to watch themselves as best as they can. be educated, be smart.

Otherwise, if you like, I can send you pictures of her on her death bed and you will never sleep properly again.

 

[Beech]

CHAPTER 13

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Document 36

James Madison, Virginia Ratifying Convention

20 June 1788

Papers 11:163
I have observed, that gentlemen suppose, that the general legislature will do every mischief they possibly can, and that they will omit to do every thing good which they are authorised to do. If this were a reasonable supposition, their objections would be good. I consider it reasonable to conclude, that they will as readily do their duty, as deviate from it: Nor do I go on the grounds mentioned by gentlemen on the other side--that we are to place unlimited confidence in them, and expect nothing but the most exalted integrity and sublime virtue. But I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks--no form of government can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea. If there be sufficient virtue and intelligence in the community, it will be exercised in the selection of these men. So that we do not depend on their virtue, or put confidence in our rulers, but in the people who are to choose them.

The Founders' Constitution
Volume 1, Chapter 13, Document 36

Representation: James Madison, Virginia Ratifying Convention

The University of Chicago Press

The Papers of James Madison. Edited by William T. Hutchinson et al. Chicago and London: University of Chicago Press, 1962--77 (vols. 1--10); Charlottesville: University Press of Virginia, 1977--(vols. 11--).

fascinating place the USA.. Incredible wisdom from a man who was a slave owner and brought slaves with him to the Whitehouse. Unreal!!!

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Not sure what you’re talking about…. Only have this account…and it’s been a while

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There are those of us who have been around longer then that my friend. You should remember some of us if you rack your brain

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

There are those of us who have been around longer then that my friend. You should remember some of us if you rack your brain

Than that my friend.

Whatever turns your crank…. Still am not Who you think I am, and only have ever had one account

 

[Beech]

Than that my friend.

Whatever turns your crank…. Still am not Who you think I am, and only have ever had one account

Tnuoc,

You haven't figured it out???? There are only two of us on here, You and me with about 200 different accounts that I control.

I just cannot figure out, why as a MOD, I delete my own posts.

 

[Beech]

November 5th

nationaltoday.com

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

November 5th

nationaltoday.com

Ha, the irony of bonfire night and the reason for it on the same night as you know what. Seems appropriate.

 

[jbeck5]

I don't know if you are trying to feed a family of 4 or were just looking to argue about something bigger but I just showed you how you could make lasagna at half the price you think it is to make.

I grew up less fortunate so I know the value of a deflated dollar more than most. I don't need anecdotal arguments on reality. Like I said it's up to you if you want to eat healthier. That doesn't mean %100 organic it means less synthetic. It's a learning process that you only get better at if you really try. If not, stick with your Kraft dinner & hotdogs.

Golf course or not he was not wrong. You chose to infer a whole lot of other meanings into it to justify a position way more complex than the ideas being presented.

I just wanted to second your statement that you can eat a well balanced meal for much cheaper than people make it seem.

Me and my gf spend $700 a month on food.

That's 3 meals times 30 days times 2 people...plus snacking.

3x30x2= 180 meal servings

$700/180= $3.88 per meal...but it's actually less because we snack too.

So whoever said McDonald's is cheaper is wrong.

 

[jbeck5]

$700 is a lot. I probably spend around $300 for 3 people a month. If I could afford organic meat direct from the farmer I would be buying from them exclusively, but unfortunately I don't have that kind of money. I look at flyers every week and base everything around what meats are for sale. I try to stay away from No Frills, Fresh Co, and Food Basics when it comes to buying meat because they sell very low grades of meat in general but will buy dry goods from there. I know people think Farmboy is too expensive but if you watch the prices you can get thing for great prices there too. Their reduced rack for vegetables is a perfectly fine option if you plan on making things sooner than later. In general I try to buy meat when it's around $1-1.50 a portion per meal seeing as we are 3 adults. 1 pork tenderloin at around $3.75 comes in around $1.25 per person. 2 weeks ago I bought a 15 pack of drumstick from Farmboy for $7.80 each. I bought 3 packs. 2-3 drumsticks per person at ￠.52 each. These are the times you buy more, portion them out and have back ups in the freezer when the sales suck or nothing is on sale. When ground beef goes on sale for around $4/lbs I buy 4-6 depending on how it's packaged. (usually 2-3 pound packs). Only buying things when they are on sale leaves you with extra money for the higher priced things that go on sale like Fish, Chicken breasts, Stewing beef, Ribs, etc.

I also have a garden where I grow things so throughout the summer and fall that cuts down on what I have to buy, not a lot but it helps.

McDonalds is never the cheaper option, its the convenient option.


Cause that's what men do.

How is under $4 a meal a lot? This includes meals like chicken and veggie stir fries from scratch or the occasional steak or whatever. It's very good and healthy and home made.

$300 for 3 people? That's 270 meals a month...that's $1.11 per meal.

Not even Kraft dinner is that cheap.

If you have snacks, thats under a dollar per meal.


I'm very curious to know what you're buying for under $1 per serving and how healthy is it?

We do almost all our shopping at Costco/Wal Mart for packaged goods and then farm boy for as much produce as possible.

 

[BankStreetParade]

$700 is a lot. I probably spend around $300 for 3 people a month. If I could afford organic meat direct from the farmer I would be buying from them exclusively, but unfortunately I don't have that kind of money. I look at flyers every week and base everything around what meats are for sale. I try to stay away from No Frills, Fresh Co, and Food Basics when it comes to buying meat because they sell very low grades of meat in general but will buy dry goods from there. I know people think Farmboy is too expensive but if you watch the prices you can get thing for great prices there too. Their reduced rack for vegetables is a perfectly fine option if you plan on making things sooner than later. In general I try to buy meat when it's around $1-1.50 a portion per meal seeing as we are 3 adults. 1 pork tenderloin at around $3.75 comes in around $1.25 per person. 2 weeks ago I bought a 15 pack of drumstick from Farmboy for $7.80 each. I bought 3 packs. 2-3 drumsticks per person at ￠.52 each. These are the times you buy more, portion them out and have back ups in the freezer when the sales suck or nothing is on sale. When ground beef goes on sale for around $4/lbs I buy 4-6 depending on how it's packaged. (usually 2-3 pound packs). Only buying things when they are on sale leaves you with extra money for the higher priced things that go on sale like Fish, Chicken breasts, Stewing beef, Ribs, etc.

I also have a garden where I grow things so throughout the summer and fall that cuts down on what I have to buy, not a lot but it helps.

McDonalds is never the cheaper option, its the convenient option.


Cause that's what men do.

I'm calling bullshit. There's no way you're feeding 3 people a month for $100 per person. You're doing breakfast, lunch and dinner for 3 people, for an entire month, for $100 per person? That's just about $1.xx per meal per person.

You're either eating the most unbalanced meals imaginable or you're spending way more than $300.

If you eat drumsticks at $.52 per portion, you need to be coming in at less than $.65 for the rest of that meal. A 100g portion of rice (average serving size for an adult) is about $0.25. That leaves you about $.40 to get fresh produce into your diet. A portion of frozen vegetables comes in around $.80 per portion. This doesn't account for any seasoning on your food. It also doesn't account for any variety in what you eat, any snacks or any extras. Even if you ate this meal, exactly as is, 3 times a day, it would equal out to $432 per month. Assuming you don't eat or drink literally anything else.

 

[maclean]

I mean, you're not eating meat and vegetables for breakfast. Like breakfast is cereal/toast and that brings the average down. Lunch is usually leftovers or eggs.

I definitely spend less than $700 a month for myself and two teenaged boys that eat more than me, but that's because I don't have that much to spend on it. They also have subsidised cafeterias when at school. But I'd have a hard time quantifying how much I actually do spend, as the situation is always in flux and it depends a lot on how much I have.

 

[jbeck5]

I mean, you're not eating meat and vegetables for breakfast. Like breakfast is cereal/toast and that brings the average down. Lunch is usually leftovers or eggs.

I definitely spend less than $700 a month for myself and two teenaged boys that eat more than me, but that's because I don't have that much to spend on it. They also have subsidised cafeterias when at school. But I'd have a hard time quantifying how much I actually do spend, as the situation is always in flux and it depends a lot on how much I have.

I only know because we budget to the penny. Some months are less at like $550 but that's probably because we still had food left from the previous months purchases...

Your school pays for your kids lunches? That wasn't a thing when we were young. You either had a cafeteria charging you like $5 a meal(15-25 years ago...so like $10-15 now) or you brought your own lunch.

Why aren't you eating balanced breakfasts? We made breakfast burritos with scrambled eggs, onions, peppers, cheese , salsa.

My lunch is a home made muffin. A home made smoothie. A home made coffee. Veggies and hummus. Pineapple. Tuna sandwich. Yogurt. Almonds.

If you're going to eat healthy-ish, it's going to cost more than a dollar per meal on average... especially if dinner is like a chicken breast and veggies and a carb...that's gonna be $3-4 per serving for dinner minimum.


Toast with peanut butter isn't very nutritious .

I will give you cereal though. I like cranberry almond crunch...with milk. Decent nutrients and cost under a buck for a bowl. But you're not going to be eating that for lunch and dinner too.

Plus, add snacks.


If you're eating a balanced meal it's going to be more than a buck per meal...but the point is it's not super expensive...it's about $10 per person per day for 3 meals and snacks...so people complaining about how McDonald's is cheaper or how it's cheaper to buy processed food...is wrong. Buy good food in bulk. That's always best.

 

[maclean]

I only know because we budget to the penny. Some months are less at like $550 but that's probably because we still had food left from the previous months purchases...

Your school pays for your kids lunches? That wasn't a thing when we were young. You either had a cafeteria charging you like $5 a meal(15-25 years ago...so like $10-15 now) or you brought your own lunch.

Why aren't you eating balanced breakfasts? We made breakfast burritos with scrambled eggs, onions, peppers, cheese , salsa.

My lunch is a home made muffin. A home made smoothie. A home made coffee. Veggies and hummus. Pineapple. Tuna sandwich. Yogurt. Almonds.

If you're going to eat healthy-ish, it's going to cost more than a dollar per meal on average... especially if dinner is like a chicken breast and veggies and a carb...that's gonna be $3-4 per serving for dinner minimum.


Toast with peanut butter isn't very nutritious .

I will give you cereal though. I like cranberry almond crunch...with milk. Decent nutrients and cost under a buck for a bowl. But you're not going to be eating that for lunch and dinner too.

Plus, add snacks.


If you're eating a balanced meal it's going to be more than a buck per meal...but the point is it's not super expensive...it's about $10 per person per day for 3 meals and snacks...so people complaining about how McDonald's is cheaper or how it's cheaper to buy processed food...is wrong. Buy good food in bulk. That's always best.

I live in Europe, hence the subsidised lunches. They cost like 2.50 and are fairly strictly regulated to provide a healthy variety.

Cereal and toast with peanut butter is nutritious enough for me, who has time to cook a whole meal in the morning? On the weekend sure. Lunch is also something that needs to be done quickly so I can get back to work. Hard enough to get things done as it is...

Glad you've got a good rhythm going with healthy meals. Having to do the shopping, plan meals, it gets exhausting doing it all myself, being responsible for three people's eating, but I mostly manage to stay away from the processed stuff nonetheless.

 

[Stylizer1]

How is under $4 a meal a lot? This includes meals like chicken and veggie stir fries from scratch or the occasional steak or whatever. It's very good and healthy and home made.

$300 for 3 people? That's 270 meals a month...that's $1.11 per meal.

Not even Kraft dinner is that cheap.

If you have snacks, thats under a dollar per meal.


I'm very curious to know what you're buying for under $1 per serving and how healthy is it?

We do almost all our shopping at Costco/Wal Mart for packaged goods and then farm boy for as much produce as possible.

We generally don't eat breakfast in the morning Monday to Friday and if we do it doesn't cost $3.88. We eat a lot of eggs in our family. When our family was younger, yes, 3 meals a day and some snacks. Now as adults we have found the right amount of fuel it takes to keep the engine humming along. I don't snack a lot but we usually have cut up veg with homemade dip, Humus, Fruits, nuts, sometimes chips, Cheese & crackers. It always depends. Everyone is different and buy what they want. $300 is what I usually spend to feed my family, extras are on them but its not like they are spending $100 a month, maybe $25.

Kraft dinner is that cheap if you buy it on sale. lol

 

[jbeck5]

We generally don't eat breakfast in the morning Monday to Friday and if we do it doesn't cost $3.88. We eat a lot of eggs in our family. When our family was younger, yes, 3 meals a day and some snacks. Now as adults we have found the right amount of fuel it takes to keep the engine humming along. I don't snack a lot but we usually have cut up veg with homemade dip, Humus, Fruits, nuts, sometimes chips, Cheese & crackers. It always depends. Everyone is different and buy what they want. $300 is what I usually spend to feed my family, extras are on them but its not like they are spending $100 a month, maybe $25.

Kraft dinner is that cheap if you buy it on sale. lol

$3.88 adds snacks...so remove snack and it's probably $3-3.50 per meal.

That can mean $2 on breakfast...$3 on lunch, and $4 on dinner.

I still kind of don't believe you on $300 for a family of 3 lol

That's like 75 cents a meal per person when you count snacks... especially the healthy snacks you mentioned.

But I think we're on the same side. It makes much more sense to spend a couple bucks a meal on healthy food than it is to buy junk food or fast food.

 

[SoupNazi]

NO MORE POLITICS

 

[jbeck5]

I live in Europe, hence the subsidised lunches. They cost like 2.50 and are fairly strictly regulated to provide a healthy variety.

Cereal and toast with peanut butter is nutritious enough for me, who has time to cook a whole meal in the morning? On the weekend sure. Lunch is also something that needs to be done quickly so I can get back to work. Hard enough to get things done as it is...

Glad you've got a good rhythm going with healthy meals. Having to do the shopping, plan meals, it gets exhausting doing it all myself, being responsible for three people's eating, but I mostly manage to stay away from the processed stuff nonetheless.

Ah, me and my gf do that together...so we go to Costco or Wal Mart together and get excited about what new items there might be...or limited time additions(editions but both technically work )...we go through every isle and it's fun...then it's fun packing the kitchen full of all your new foods and stuff. Then you can go back to fun little jobs around the house or video games or Netflix or mental peace from cleaning your house.

I find that all fun.

Pouring a glass of wine, starting a fire in the fireplace, putting music on, and then prepping a fun and delicious meal with the love of your life? Light candles. Dim the lights. Give the odd kiss and bum tap with smiles and laughter and have a blast.

Enjoy the little things in life like cooking a meal with your partner. One day they may be gone and you would want nothing more than to spend an hour in the kitchen cooking a home made gourmet meal with them.

 

[Stylizer1]

I'm calling bullshit. There's no way you're feeding 3 people a month for $100 per person. You're doing breakfast, lunch and dinner for 3 people, for an entire month, for $100 per person? That's just about $1.xx per meal per person.

You're either eating the most unbalanced meals imaginable or you're spending way more than $300.

If you eat drumsticks at $.52 per portion, you need to be coming in at less than $.65 for the rest of that meal. A 100g portion of rice (average serving size for an adult) is about $0.25. That leaves you about $.40 to get fresh produce into your diet. A portion of frozen vegetables comes in around $.80 per portion. This doesn't account for any seasoning on your food. It also doesn't account for any variety in what you eat, any snacks or any extras. Even if you ate this meal, exactly as is, 3 times a day, it would equal out to $432 per month. Assuming you don't eat or drink literally anything else.

All I can say is before inflation this is how I would manage our dietary needs. Now it is no different except there is less leeway on over spending. We eat even less processed food now than ever before.