TSN: Senators lose 1st round pick in '24, '25 or '26 as penalty for Dadonov fiasco

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the NHL really shat the bed here ... there must be more behind this they aren't sharing otherwise this whole situation baffles me....

- accp only if the NHL has in possesion clear evidence that shows /proves Dorion intentionally made the decision not to disclose details regarding the players "no trade" clause/list otherwise Vegas is just as guilty in this; by failing to perform their due deligance in regards to the dea ... very hard to believe that such details aren't cleary listend in the players contract
- if it was indeed intentional, then I am dissapointed by PD and approve of his dismial..
- unless the NHL invented a new lighting quick ivestigative form/technique, the NHL shoud reward the Sens with 10 extra first round picks for deliberatly choosing not to inform the new owner about the ongoing investigations (Pinto and this) at the time of sale ...
- even if the Sens were to lose 10 first rounds picks it would not in the slightest change how incopemnt the NHL looks in this situation...teams are trading million dollar assest and something like this gets overlooked ? 2 years after the trade ? correct me if I am wrong but doesnt' the NHL revise every trade ?? require NHLs approval to finalize ??? or are we to believe the "no movement clause" of the contract was hand written on a yelllow stickit note and PD chose not to FAX it over ????
 
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Damn. I was hoping it would be a 2nd.

That's one hell of a punishment. But, ole Gary love his Vegas club (and his Cali teams). Got to make sure they're always happy.
 
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I rarely. Very rarely get pissed off to my core about how teams I don't support get mistreated by the league. Almost never. But I've been pissed off all day over today's news.

Especially in light of the Chicago situation and if Andlauer is telling the truth and the league withheld material information regarding the potential outcome of the ongoing investigation of the situation...its beyond hypocrisy. It's hypocrisy in light of the league's own fraud and you all fully deserve to be pissed off.

I'm right there with you.
 

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I rarely. Very rarely get pissed off to my core about how teams I don't support get mistreated by the league. Almost never. But I've been pissed off all day over today's news.

Especially in light of the Chicago situation and if Andlauer is telling the truth and the league withheld material information regarding the potential outcome of the ongoing investigation of the situation...its beyond hypocrisy. It's hypocrisy in light of the league's own fraud and you all fully deserve to be pissed off.

I'm right there with you.

 

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He said it on Overdrive and doubled down hard tonight.
Well who knows? I've always qualified it with "if true" but I doubt Andlauer is keen to publicly make false accusations against the league when they just smacked his organization.
 

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Well who knows? I've always qualified it with "if true" but I doubt Andlauer is keen to publicly make false accusations against the league when they just smacked his organization.
Dreger is a league mouthpiece. I don’t see what Andlauer could gain by lying.
 
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Dreger is a league mouthpiece. I don’t see what Andlauer could gain by lying.
Such a weird mess, Dreger said that the investigation would have been known by Andlauer and any prospective buyer. But did the NHL say that a potential outcome (if the Senators were found at fault) could be the forfeiture of a first rounder? Because no one seemed to be anticipating it...

The NHL is horribly inconsistent and unpredictable.
 

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Such a weird mess, Dreger said that the investigation would have been known by Andlauer and any prospective buyer. But did the NHL say that a potential outcome if the Senators were found at fault could be the forfeiture of a first rounder? Because no one seemed to be anticipating it, the NHL horribly inconsistent and unpredictable.
Simmer spoke with another bidder who confirmed they had zero indication of either investigation, although thePinto one didn’t start until July.
 

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Simmer spoke with another bidder who confirmed they had zero indication of either investigation, although thePinto one didn’t start until July.

Andlauer said that he knew there was but was told(?) it wasn’t significant or something like that.
Damn I wonder if Andlauer can sue the NHL for withholding information in regards to the significance of the investigation? Seems like fraud. Maybe a couple mil and first rounders? ;)
 

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the NHL really shat the bed here ... there must be more behind this they aren't sharing otherwise this whole situation baffles me....

- accp only if the NHL has in possesion clear evidence that shows /proves Dorion intentionally made the decision not to disclose details regarding the players "no trade" clause/list otherwise Vegas is just as guilty in this; by failing to perform their due deligance in regards to the dea ... very hard to believe that such details aren't cleary listend in the players contract
- if it was indeed intentional, then I am dissapointed by PD and approve of his dismial..
- unless the NHL invented a new lighting quick ivestigative form/technique, the NHL shoud reward the Sens with 10 extra first round picks for deliberatly choosing not to inform the new owner about the ongoing investigations (Pinto and this) at the time of sale ...
- even if the Sens were to lose 10 first rounds picks it would not in the slightest change how incopemnt the NHL looks in this situation...teams are trading million dollar assest and something like this gets overlooked ? 2 years after the trade ? correct me if I am wrong but doesnt' the NHL revise every trade ?? require NHLs approval to finalize ??? or are we to believe the "no movement clause" of the contract was hand written on a yelllow stickit note and PD chose not to FAX it over ????

The NHL was on the trade call! It's insane to me that they didn't know the ntx W's sin effect.
 

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The NHL was on the trade call! It's insane to me that they didn't know the ntx W's sin effect.
are you serious ? hahaha why would the NHL bring this to light ? makes the league look clueless and PD as the one with the brain power that fooled them both
 

boxbox

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Yes, this.

The NHL decides to "punish" the Senators for the Dadanov issue, claiming that they failed to give or even hide Dadanov's 10 team no-trade list from Las Vegas.

However, previously the NHL decided to hide information about this issue and its potential negative fall-out from prospective buyers of the Senators (including Andlauer) to keep the price higher for the sellers. So, essentially, the NHL was guilty of something similar to the Senators. Of course, there is no penalty for the NHL. Bettman should be fired.
How do you hide something like that ?, is it not part of the original contract ....had to be in writing for it to be official/validated ?
 

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are you serious ? hahaha why would the NHL bring this to light ? makes the league look clueless and PD as the one with the brain power that fooled them both
As reported, and to paraphrase Andlauer... Vegas and Anaheim wanted their pound of flesh and pushed the league to do this. Vegas because they apparently now regret the rightful reputation they have for treating their players like bookkeeping assets instead of people, and Anaheim? Probably because they were pissed the trade didn't happen in the first place.

Greater than zero chance part of the league coming down on this is because of how f***ing embarrassing it is that this happened in the first place. Afaik, conditions surrounding the trade are vetted through the leagues Mtl central registry office. All parties and a league representative convene a call to confirm the trade, etc...

Yes, it is bad for the game that a GM even tried this in the first place.

It's worse for the league because the GM got away with it.
 
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