Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

[HoweHullOrr]

He is highly respected? What has he done to earn that respect? I look at his actual body of work and its terrible. That's why I don't think he's any good. I assume most people are doing that as well. But considering so many sens online personalities are clamoring to get him i am trying to wrap my head around why. The results and decisions he made don't add up to me. They have underachieved and he failed to address any of the teams deficiencies while having multiple super stars. They won one series in his tenure. He has 1 player on the team he drafted and developed. He has walked Matthews to UFA status well before he should have. He overpaid Marner, he chose Tavares at an inflated 11 million dollar contract over Kadri who was making half and is a better playoff style player. Signed Mrazek over Andersen then paid a 1st to get rid of him. He traded for Matt Murray..... After all the drama in Ottawa. I've heard from multiple players that played with him that said he is a bad teammate. So I guess I am just looking for reasons why anyone would want this guy.

I've wondered about the same thing while trying to keep an open mind. Its hard to ignore his red flag success (or lack of) record though.

 

[bert]

What people on HF think and what teams actually do often doesn't align, the Pens slammed the breaks on their search for a new GM when Dubas became available because they respect his body of work, so while you're looking for reasons, their actions show they either know something you don't, or just came to different conclusions based on the same info.

Do you have a source or is that speculation? I have a hard time imagining they stopped looking at all options there's literally no upside to doing that. I'm going to side with tangible results in a results oriented business.

 

[ATdaisuki]

I would love to have Dubas on board.I think the additions he made to support the core were mostly great. I think his drafting is good. He looks to me like he's going to be a "finisher" gm people seek to complete builds and keep a competitive team competitive. We're right at that stage where we could use someone like that. I know what you're saying: "he couldn't be that guy with the Leafs!" Fair, but my counter is he was given too much power too early with the Leafs and negotiated himself into too tight a spot with a core that just doesn't seem to be able to get it done. He doesn't have to build or retain (much of) the core here and we should be able to sidestep those problems. I respect his supporting moves a lot.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Elliotte Friedman on 32 Thoughts:

"I heard that the weekend was phones down. Everyone kind of took the weekend off. Apparently, it's been pretty crazy, the last few days. And I don't know if the weekend extends into Monday, because there are parties in this that are in the states, including the bank, and there are parties that are not, which includes the hockey team and the family. Someone just said to me - this, is a book. The Senators sale is a book. And it'll be a good one. He said it'll be a book that gets turned into a movie based on the book, and whoever writes the book is going to make millions."

"It was a tough weekend for Sparks. Everyone here that is supposed to be in control of the process, has lost control of it. I don't know if there's been another sale like this that I can remember. Initially, the NHL liked some of the Ryan Reynolds and celebrity attention, but now it's completely gone off the rails. I think there's a lot of nastiness behind the scenes, and the Sparks group was accused of chasing money at the last minute. There were some reports that it was falling apart and his bid was a joke, and there were other reports that this is not anything unusual."

"There are people that are starting to accuse others of being unprofessional and unreasonable."

"Whoever doesn't get this, it could get really ugly."

Par for the course in Sens land!

Do you have a source or is that speculation? I have a hard time imagining they stopped looking at all options there's literally no upside to doing that. I'm going to side with tangible results in a results oriented business.

Elliotte Friedman has said that Fenway Sports made him priority #1 as soon as he became available, have already offered him the job, and are waiting for his answer. He met with Sidney Crosby in Pittsburgh late last week and got that endorsement.

There was even a tidbit put out (I think Seravalli said it) that Fenway sees him as an executive who could eventually work beyond just hockey for them, and lead things across their portfolio (Red Sox, Penguins and Liverpool).

His hockey moves can be analyzed to death, but it's safe to say that from a business perspective, he's viewed as an incredibly talented executive.

Reports are that he's weighing the option. Friedman said today on 32 Thoughts that Pittsburgh is confident he'll accept, but there are some who think he's still waiting to see what happens in Ottawa.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I would love to have Dubas on board.I think the additions he made to support the core were mostly great.

Haha funny.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

I would love to have Dubas on board.I think the additions he made to support the core were mostly great. I think his drafting is good. He looks to me like he's going to be a "finisher" gm people seek to complete builds and keep a competitive team competitive. We're right at that stage where we could use someone like that. I know what you're saying: "he couldn't be that guy with the Leafs!" Fair, but my counter is he was given too much power too early with the Leafs and negotiated himself into too tight a spot with a core that just doesn't seem to be able to get it done. He doesn't have to build or retain (much of) the core here and we should be able to sidestep those problems. I respect his supporting moves a lot.

Unless the cap goes up quite a bit in 2+ years which everyone anticipates it will. That would open up the opportunity for mistakes. Would hope he would not repeat what he did in Toronto (add the wrong guy to a very expensive contract) if that were the case.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Should have had this GSP handle the sale.

 

[SensHulk]

Elliotte Friedman on 32 Thoughts:

"I heard that the weekend was phones down. Everyone kind of took the weekend off. Apparently, it's been pretty crazy, the last few days. And I don't know if the weekend extends into Monday, because there are parties in this that are in the states, including the bank, and there are parties that are not, which includes the hockey team and the family. Someone just said to me - this, is a book. The Senators sale is a book. And it'll be a good one. He said it'll be a book that gets turned into a movie based on the book, and whoever writes the book is going to make millions."

"It was a tough weekend for Sparks. Everyone here that is supposed to be in control of the process, has lost control of it. I don't know if there's been another sale like this that I can remember. Initially, the NHL liked some of the Ryan Reynolds and celebrity attention, but now it's completely gone off the rails. I think there's a lot of nastiness behind the scenes, and the Sparks group was accused of chasing money at the last minute. There were some reports that it was falling apart and his bid was a joke, and there were other reports that this is not anything unusual."

"There are people that are starting to accuse others of being unprofessional and unreasonable."

"Whoever doesn't get this, it could get really ugly."

Par for the course in Sens land!



Elliotte Friedman has said that Fenway Sports made him priority #1 as soon as he became available, have already offered him the job, and are waiting for his answer. He met with Sidney Crosby in Pittsburgh late last week and got that endorsement.

There was even a tidbit put out (I think Seravalli said it) that Fenway sees him as an executive who could eventually work beyond just hockey for them, and lead things across their portfolio (Red Sox, Penguins and Liverpool).

His hockey moves can be analyzed to death, but it's safe to say that from a business perspective, he's viewed as an incredibly talented executive.

Reports are that he's weighing the option. Friedman said today on 32 Thoughts that Pittsburgh is confident he'll accept, but there are some who think he's still waiting to see what happens in Ottawa.

What a shit show. Gotta think this is on the bank…now I seriously question if Remington group was onto something with the process…

 

[Gil Gunderson]

GSP has fulfilled their wish of making Melnyk proud with this absolute circus.

 

[DaveMatthew]

GSP has fulfilled their wish of making Melnyk proud with this absolute circus.

I guess it's not that surprising. The "board" is comprised of Melnyk's old buddies, the person leading the sale for GSP is Melnyk's old buddy, and you have two 20-year-old daughters who, at the end of the day, have to make the decision. One lives in Cali the other is in Australia.

Maybe Remington's ask wasn't all that unfair... perhaps they saw what a gong show this was turning into and didn't want to be run around in circles.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

GSP has fulfilled their wish of making Melnyk proud with this absolute circus.

The tradition continues. At least Melnyk himself isn't involved. Would probably walk away from the table and announce the next day that it was the fans' fault the deal fell apart.

 

[Silencio]

The sale is done:

Lukas Mattsson as the Sens new owner

Tom Wambsgans as POHO

Cousin Greg as GM

 

[DaveMatthew]

The sale is done:

Lukas Mattsson as the Sens new owner

Tom Wambsgans as POHO

Cousin Greg as GM

Tom Wambsgans as POHO/Pain Sponge.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

What a shit show. Gotta think this is on the bank…now I seriously question if Remington group was onto something with the process…

Would it not be possible for the Remington group to hang in there if they were confident with their bid?

Things happen for a reason as they say, so they must have had a reason for pulling out. Could it have been the importance (motivation) of the real estate component that triggered their pulling out?

Not saying the process hasn't dragged on. Just focusing on what happened with Remington bid which could be independent of anything to do with the bidding process.

 

[Senscore]

Dorion is absolutely our own Tom.

The human puppet who found himself on top. For now.


If only he had a Ratf***er Sam.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

The sale is done:

Lukas Mattsson as the Sens new owner

Tom Wambsgans as POHO

Cousin Greg as GM

The Disgusting Brothers!!

 

[Sun God Nika]

I am hearing the Sparks bid has joined Eugene Melnyk

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

We can't even the sell the team properly.

 

[bert]

I would love to have Dubas on board.I think the additions he made to support the core were mostly great. I think his drafting is good. He looks to me like he's going to be a "finisher" gm people seek to complete builds and keep a competitive team competitive. We're right at that stage where we could use someone like that. I know what you're saying: "he couldn't be that guy with the Leafs!" Fair, but my counter is he was given too much power too early with the Leafs and negotiated himself into too tight a spot with a core that just doesn't seem to be able to get it done. He doesn't have to build or retain (much of) the core here and we should be able to sidestep those problems. I respect his supporting moves a lot.

He identified the teams weaknesses way too late. Then went overboard with too much turnover. It's OK to add but making 6+ trades in a 2 week span is too much roster turnover mid season. There are way better options. His results speak for themselves. To me this screams a person that doesn't understand Locker room chemistry or how quickly a team can adapt to turnover and new systems.

 

[R2010]

Would it not be possible for the Remington group to hang in there if they were confident with their bid?

Things happen for a reason as they say, so they must have had a reason for pulling out. Could it have been the importance (motivation) of the real estate component that triggered their pulling out?

Not saying the process hasn't dragged on. Just focusing on what happened with Remington bid which could be independent of anything to do with the bidding process.

I mean them deciding to do what they did - I think speaks to them thinking it was gonna be a shitshow.

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

We can't even the sell the team properly.

Front of the house: pure vibes

back of the house: tire fire

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Eugene's spirit will never fade.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

I mean them deciding to do what they did - I think speaks to them thinking it was gonna be a shitshow.

I got that part. I was just asking the question about their (Remington) motivation or reason for pulling out? Could there have been something else at play or another reason? Could it be that the deep pockets involved didn't like how the real estate component was shaping up?

Even if its a shit show (agree that its dragged on), then they could just submit their bid and wait until the dust settles and it all plays out if they were confident they had a strong bid.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Also, was this really hard to see coming after GSP let people make final bids, but still tweak them after the deadline and, in some cases, not even have the proper funding? I get they want a bidding war but it's been 2 weeks since the final deadline, if someone doesn't have the funding for it by this point get them out.

What are we doing here?

 

[DaveMatthew]

A new Neko Sparks led business has been uncovered: Aleeci (@aleeciofficial) • Instagram photos and videos

Aleeci was apparently an "international luxury-clothing brand" that Neko brought to market, but later morphed into "NFT art".

Looks legit!

This one is my favorite:

You can own it. Bidding starts at $100M and Neko will throw in 10% of the Ottawa Senators.