Waived: Semin (unconditional waivers for purpose of his release)

[SirClintonPortis]

What was our roster slot situation with Semin? We were at the full 23 or something? Did letting him go give us more flexibility in that department?

 

[Habs4ev*]

Coach is a strange man. Tinkers with **** and gets a result but then abandons it?
I've come to the conclusion that he hates when things work outside of the scope of HIS understanding.
Which begs to question why does he tinker in the first place.
The continual dismantling of lines, trios, duos, and pairings that were either working fine or starting to show chemistry is mind boggling. Be thankful he is not your auto mechanic because your car would never be tuned properly for very long.

if he couldn't win with pittsburghs lineup, what makes us think he will win with our lineup?

 

[Kriss E]

Here's the thing though. The 3 guys who have played on our RW are Carr, Byron and Andrighetto. They all have the most goals in december for this team.

The replacement players did their job just fine. The problem isn't so much the replacement players, it's the actual star players we have ! In december, Pacioretty, Subban, Markov and Plekanec have combined for less goals than either one of Ghetto, Carr or Byron !!!! That is the real problem here.

It doesn't change the fact we need another top 6 player, we needed one before the season even started.

 

[Kriss E]

You can't immediately go out and get a top 6 forward right now, without overpaying by a lot. Which is why ideally we pick up someone during the offseason.

Semin's legs and wrist are done.

And during the off season people told me he can trade for a top 6 during the season.
We have needed a top 6 forward for years.

 

[rockjngo]

Semin is done. He's no longer an NHL player like Gomez.

 

[FireBurningBin]

And during the off season people told me he can trade for a top 6 during the season.
We have needed a top 6 forward for years.

He can during the deadline. But it was a major letdown it didn't happen around the draft to have a guy gel with the team early during training camp and help us in regular season slumps.

 

[Pyrophorus]

if he couldn't win with pittsburghs lineup, what makes us think he will win with our lineup?

He didn't hoist the Cup, but many would say, that it was his groundwork, and Bylsma just continued the system.

They never won with a full season of Bylsma, and Buffalo isn't doing great either.

 

[Scriptor]

Teams skipping on players happens alll the time for your information, doesn't mean that's the right decision. Kassian was offered for free to all teams and nobody wanted him and I think there's a possibility that he's gonna be able to help us in a couple of weeks. I guess we are going to be dumb enough to play a player who 29 other GMs didnt want for free.

Kassian is a completely different story. If a team had picked him up, they would've had to place him on their 23 man NHL roster. Otherwise, Montreal could've asked for him back and sent him down to their AHL affiliate.

Kassian is out of game shape and needed to play --plenty -- to see if he can help our/a team.

 

[Burke the Legend]

29 other GMs passed on Fleishmann, 30 GMs passed on Martin St. Louis when he was on waivers, etc...

He was also just bought out by the Canes, a small market team spent a crapload of money just to get rid of him he was so bad. Open your eyes man.

 

[FerrisRox]

Semin was bad defensively

Completely false.

 

[FerrisRox]

Semin is done. He's no longer an NHL player like Gomez.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Completely false.

I guess it depends what you mean by being good defensively.

Semin was hanging back behind the play because he was slow as ****, it was easier to backcheck since he was already behind the play, so I guess for some that could pass as being mindful defensively.

But I remember what lead to his first healthy scratch... and it sure as hell wasn't a smart defensive play.

 

[Scriptor]

I guess it depends what you mean by being good defensively.

Semin was hanging back behind the play because he was slow as ****, it was easier to backcheck since he was already behind the play, so I guess for some that could pass as being mindful defensively.

But I remember what lead to his first healthy scratch... and it sure as hell wasn't a smart defensive play.

The mantra that Semin was a bad defensive player was utterly false. However, he was a good defensive player ONLY when he decided to apply himself. That just didn't make him a consistently good defensive player...

 

[Cole Caulifield]

The mantra that Semin was a bad defensive player was utterly false. However, he was a good defensive player ONLY when he decided to apply himself. That just didn't make him a consistently good defensive player...

Mantra? It's an opinion, using the word mantra is an interesting word choice.. not sure what thought you're trying to convey here.

So he could be good defensively, but he just didn't care enough to be all the time ? Okay... I would have thought that consistency would have been a prime criteria for someone to be considered sound defensively....

I did see him backcheck with conviction and purpose a few times. And he did seem to know where to be to block passing lanes. That doesn't make him a good defensive player.

Not to mention he was also prone to making ridiculous no look passes to no one in the middle of the ice that would get picked off.. precisely the type of play that led to his healthy scratch.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

semin was a liability and was directly responsible for several goals against and terrible penalties. I saw this coming even before we signed him when some of you guys were clamoring for him in the summer. He does not fit with this team like it or not.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Here's the thing though. The 3 guys who have played on our RW are Carr, Byron and Andrighetto. They all have the most goals in december for this team.

The replacement players did their job just fine. The problem isn't so much the replacement players, it's the actual star players we have ! In december, Pacioretty, Subban, Markov and Plekanec have combined for less goals than either one of Ghetto, Carr or Byron !!!! That is the real problem here.

this right here is the problem, great post. time for our leaders to step up.

 

[Gomez91]

Habs thought Semin was a COMPLETE waste of a roster spot. Apparently, 29 other teams agreed and did not pick him up for free on waivers.

But apparently you, and a few other people here, think you know better.

Newsflash : You don't.

Semin was too slow, bad defensively and heartless to continue being a NHLer given the detoriation of his actual skills.

Carr, Ghetto, Hudon, McCarron, Byron, Thomas, just about anyone was better than him.

Getting rid of him was the most obvious move we will see this season. That said, at the start of the season the kids could use the playing time in SJ, and Semin as a warm body bought us a little time.

How is that working out for you? Last I checked its called a losing streak with a lack of effort even the stead fast core is lacking effort weather Semin could of helped or not I am not sure but the combination of those young guys and core players is definitely not the answer

 

[Nynja*]

I said it when I brought it up before, but the Habs were scoring close to 4 goals per game with Semin in the lineup, 3.2 goals per game with Semin scratched but on the team, and dropped to 1.6 goals per game since he had his contract terminated.

On the score sheet, Semin's departure shouldnt have had that kind of effect on the team, but perhaps there are intangible factors at play here. It is a statistical fact that the scoring dropped when Semin's contract was terminated. You could say that it was Gallagher's injury, but the Habs scored 4 goals against the Islanders in 1 1/2 periods without Gallagher then lit up the Rangers for 5 goals without Gallagher.

I still firmly believe terminating his contract at that time was a bad decision.

 

[vokiel]

Signing Semin was a mistake too.

 

[OnTheRun]

It's not really a mistake to get rid of a player you benched/scratched every time he turned over the puck.

Doing squat after terminating his contract was the mistake.

 

[76]

I said it when I brought it up before, but the Habs were scoring close to 4 goals per game with Semin in the lineup, 3.2 goals per game with Semin scratched but on the team, and dropped to 1.6 goals per game since he had his contract terminated.

On the score sheet, Semin's departure shouldnt have had that kind of effect on the team, but perhaps there are intangible factors at play here. It is a statistical fact that the scoring dropped when Semin's contract was terminated. You could say that it was Gallagher's injury, but the Habs scored 4 goals against the Islanders in 1 1/2 periods without Gallagher then lit up the Rangers for 5 goals without Gallagher.

I still firmly believe terminating his contract at that time was a bad decision.

No needs to look at stats here. I have hoped so much that it would work. But Semin's play was absolutely awfull. He was weak, he was losing every battles and he wasnt even able to follow the speed of the play. The only positive of his presence was to give time to some prospects to get better prepared in the AHL.

 

[stubbadub]

Not approaching Chris Stewart in the off-season was a mistake. Has a similar frame to Kassian, and can shoot really well, and signed for less to play in Anaheim.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Not approaching Chris Stewart in the off-season was a mistake. Has a similar frame to Kassian, and can shoot really well, and signed for less to play in Anaheim.

You know Anaheim has the crappiest offense in the league? And Stewart's a part of the problem?
While potting 6 goals playing 10 mins a night is okay, he has not been deployed in a bigger role. Perhaps there is a reason.

 

[FerrisRox]

semin was a liability and was directly responsible for several goals against and terrible penalties. I saw this coming even before we signed him when some of you guys were clamoring for him in the summer. He does not fit with this team like it or not.

Semin was directly responsible for several goals against?

This is complete nonsense. You can't just come in here and make things up, this is a room *filled* with people that watch all the games. When you completely fabricate something about the games, you're obviously going to be exposed.