Post-Game Talk: Seattle Seahawks beat Montréal Alouettes 8-2

Habby4Life

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Jose Theodore won the hart and vezina playing behind a defense as worse as that. Not blaming the goalies just saying they have been terrible this year like everyone else.
This is the worst defensive habs team I have seen in a very long time.

Yes, goalies need to be better but the team is leaving them out to dry too many nights.
 

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I actually did not mind Marty's conference. He didn't like that some of the players said:"we have to throw this game into the trash and start over". He was like "we cannot just throw it" meaning we have to be accountable of the crap we did. And looking at it. I also agree with him that it's not the same as when they faced the Rangers when they were dominated. Here a lot of things sort of happened (really Monty blew chunks). Just a weird turn of events all around.

Bottom line though was that they sucked.
 

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The NHL is starting to know the book on Mounty, that's the unfortunate realization of the last 2 blowout games.

Long range precise wrist shots on the irons = Mounty is not the best puck tracking G.
 
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The NHL is starting to know the book on Mounty, that's the unfortunate realization of the last 2 blowout games.

Long range precise wrist shots on the irons = Mounty is not the best puck tracking G.
I remember a few seasons ago when it was "leaked" that Vasilevsky s weakness was screened wrist shots from the blue line... those shots are nightmare for goalies and Monty was bad no question but your D needs to take care of not letting that happen : the forward coming towards the Dman needs to block shots, you need at least one Dman in front of your own net and have a shot at blocking the shot so that the goalie can focus on a smaller area.
 

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I remember a few seasons ago when it was "leaked" that Vasilevsky s weakness was screened wrist shots from the blue line... those shots are nightmare for goalies and Monty was bad no question but your D needs to take care of not letting that happen : the forward coming towards the Dman needs to block shots, you need at least one Dman in front of your own net and have a shot at blocking the shot so that the goalie can focus on a smaller area.

For sure but blocking shots is an experience thing, something we wont gain for a while.
 

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For sure but blocking shots is an experience thing, something we wont gain for a while.
Suzuki D+8, Dach CC Newhook D+6, Dvorak Anderson Gallagher Evans Armia are seasoned veterans, there is no excuse to not blocking shots for them (even assuming I'd give a pass to Kapanen, Heineman, Slaf due to inexperience)
 
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For sure but blocking shots is an experience thing, something we wont gain for a while.
Players need 10+ years of NHL experience to know how to block shots, cover the points, and clear the slot. Expecting them to know the basic mechanics of hockey until then is simply too much.
 

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MSL this first half of the game:

- Slaf you are on the 2nd line
- Now you are on the 1st line
- You are out of the PP1
- Now you are on the 2nd line
- Back to 1st line
- Now you are on the 2nd line again
- Now you are back to PP1
- Back to 1st line

Meanwhile his team is losing 1:5 :D
 

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Goaltending & defensive positioning was shit - again. Montembeault killed us in 1st period. The game wasn't a blow-out type game in the 1st half.

Dvorak is not an NHL player. He sucks. Dach can't play center he sucks. Kapanen played well tonight & deserves a good look at the center position. Stop with the 4th line wing for him to play f***ing Dach & Dvorak who are killing this team with their dog shit play at center. Dach was -3 again. Like come on Marty, the guy can't play center.

I would go with Suzuki, Evans & Kapanen as the 3 centers. Just f***ing waive Dvorak.

Once Guhle comes back, which hopefully is next game. I can see the defense pairings be: Hutson-Guhle, Matheson-Savard, Struble-Mailloux; in which case I would seriously suggest converting Xhekaj to LW. This was actually one of Mailloux's better games.

Good to see Slafkovsky back.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Dach - Kapanen - Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Gallagher
Xhekaj - XXXXX - Heineman
Armia & Dvorak can sit with Pezzetta.
I Never watched the game. Watched World Series game instead, glad I did. If team is bad as most say in here maybe time to consider coaching change.

Marty was the first step in rebuild. Need more veteran, structure sound coach. Team needs to get tougher, no push back. Big physical teams are harder to play against.
 

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The NHL is starting to know the book on Mounty, that's the unfortunate realization of the last 2 blowout games.

Long range precise wrist shots on the irons = Mounty is not the best puck tracking G.
I don’t disagree that Monty isn’t the greatest at tracking, but he’s seeing a lot of redirections from all over the ice. When goalies get beat with those long range wristers, it’s usually because they’re over committing in anticipation of either a deflection on net or the puck redirecting to a wide open player. Even Price struggled with this when our team was god awful. Montembault doesn’t look confident but the defence isn’t doing him any favours.
 

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the bright side is this didn't cost us more than 2pts. They definitely need to bring a forward in to round out the second line. The D is a tough question but IMO I'd move a LD not waiver eligible to the AHL and bring in a solid RD.

Matheson
Hutson
Guhle
Struble
Xhekaj

That's just too many LD, and you're not going to bench the first four (sorry X, Struble is better)
 

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Players need 10+ years of NHL experience to know how to block shots, cover the points, and clear the slot. Expecting them to know the basic mechanics of hockey until then is simply too much.

Not what I said, our average D doesn't have a lot of experience yet.
Our forwards have less excuses.

Hutson
Mailloux
Xhekaj
Struble

This group needs to mature.
 
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Very simple,listen to Carbonneau,Brunet,Nilan ,Gervais & Lapierre for the truth about their play,you want bullshit nonsensical fluff ,listen to Engels.Hell even Cowen has jumped off the MSL glee club wagon.
 

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Not what I said, our average D doesn't have a lot of experience yet.
Our forwards have less excuses.

Hutson
Mailloux
Xhekaj
Struble

This group needs to mature.
Maturing = learning the little things that give you an edge

Maturing is not a process by which professional athletes learn the basic fundamentals of their position. Maybe though, I'll concede they need to get up to speed and think faster. But if they make the wrong decision so often... what does that imply? Either they're 1) panicking (not ready for primetime, and putting themselves in danger) or 2) simply not up to speed.

Coaching should help mitigate their shortcomings not magnify them.
 

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The NHL is starting to know the book on Mounty, that's the unfortunate realization of the last 2 blowout games.

Long range precise wrist shots on the irons = Mounty is not the best puck tracking G.

100 percent. That's the issue with Monty.....his puck tracking skills are just not great.

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I get that the defense sucks, but the goalies have sucked too besides the first 2 games of the season.
 

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Not sure how much longer he's got. The press and the networks are starting to lose patience I venture.

Management has given him the mandate of developing the youngest defense in the NHL, have foisted this situation on him and unlike raving lunatics here, they understand what it entails and their expectations are based on the long term. I doubt they fire him until next year.
 

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But seriously what a buzzkill of a game 10 minutes into the 1st this thing was over , you hate to see it. Good thing we have help on the way in the next few years , just need some patience.

You kinda want MSL to start losing his s*** on the boys soon though, not sure he has it in him
Sam 4 Spot, and Marty too little too late had another rough 1st period.
I stopped watching when he waited to call a timeout when it was 4-0 LOL.
The team needs to be tuned up after a performance like that...................the ol Bergevin needs to go down and tell them!! LOL

Awful, worse than the Rangers game, just last week...............Massacre att Da Bell Centre.
 

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I Never watched the game. Watched World Series game instead, glad I did. If team is bad as most say in here maybe time to consider coaching change.

Marty was the first step in rebuild. Need more veteran, structure sound coach. Team needs to get tougher, no push back. Big physical teams are harder to play against.

Premature. These are the pains of a rebuild and the hardest part is the transition after most of the rebuild is done. How many transition years? Look no further than the Sens, Sabres, Wings who we are in the race with.

I would steer clear of saying this is a coaching problem. This is a too much youth problem. And then you see fans talking about getting rid of dead weight thinking a 95% roster age 24 and under will turn the needle. :facepalm:

The best news we can get from this is if we slip to bottom 5-10 vs 10-15. Yeah, we want to move up the standings but another good pick can changes things even more. It appears we have lots of work left and our transition years will be prolonged.
 

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Sam 4 Spot, and Marty too little too late had another rough 1st period.
I stopped watching when he waited to call a timeout when it was 4-0 LOL.
The team needs to be tuned up after a performance like that...................the ol Bergevin needs to go down and tell them!! LOL

Awful, worse than the Rangers game, just last week...............Massacre att Da Bell Centre.
They will start losing fan base support is people refuse to attend games.
If I lived in the area I wouldn't pay to see them play.
Laval is becoming the team that is becoming more popular. Fans deserve a winner.
 
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Not what I said, our average D doesn't have a lot of experience yet.
Our forwards have less excuses.

Hutson
Mailloux
Xhekaj
Struble

This group needs to mature.

I like the word context more than excuses.

I said it as well.... our D is too young and our overall team is young. Center depth needs work and when you got a young D, that has ripple effects.

Our vets are not good enough to carry this team.

They will start losing fan base support is people refuse to attend games.
If I lived in the area I wouldn't pay to see them play.
Laval is becoming the team that is becoming more popular. Fans deserve a winner.

It's a rebuild and fans have to realize this is what they asked for. Expecting us to rise up fast after a rebuild is not on the team, it's on the fans.

This is exactly the problem with rebuilds in Canada... we get a few pieces in place and then pressure to move up starts before it should. Fans/Media are going to create pressure that US teams don't. Their managers are able to do their jobs in piece.
 

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