Seattle Mammoths Concept Design

[lou4gehrig]

Have to admit the name Seattle Thunderbirds and potential logo for that are freakin' awesome. (Sorry if this thread wasn't supposed to mention that).

 

[Crede777]

 

[Eisen]

I'd love to see a team in the NHL wear brown in some form. The more unique colour combinations in the league the better as long as they don't look ridiculous. I could get behind that design.

I always loved these.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The logo doesn't do it for me at all.

 

[Superpest]

Have to admit the name Seattle Thunderbirds and potential logo for that are freakin' awesome. (Sorry if this thread wasn't supposed to mention that).

... Uhmm...

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Does it say anywhere that a potential new owner can't purchase the rights or the junior team and adopt it as well? Because I think they can.

Mammoth is a bad name. It doesn't flow at all for a hockey team name.

Thunderbirds does.

And you need to learn to take criticism better, you aren't going to make everyone happy.

 

[Superpest]

Does it say anywhere that a potential new owner can't purchase the rights or the junior team and adopt it as well? Because I think they can.

Mammoth is a bad name. It doesn't flow at all for a hockey team name.

Thunderbirds does.

And you need to learn to take criticism better, you aren't going to make everyone happy.

I was just saying that that team already exists, that's all.

I said nothing about it being a better name than my suggestion. Thunderbirds is a terrific name for a team and their jerseys and logos are absolutely terrific.

That being said, this is all a matter of opinion, and I don't think I have badly taken criticism in this thread, in fact I have fulfilled almost every request or committed to fulfilling said requests.

I absolutely understand I won't make everyone happy, it is part of my every day job and I have been able to work through it since college.

You don't like my concept, which is fair, but please don't derail the thread any further than you already have.

 

[Walkingthroughforest]

I'm not sure if you've missed my feedback, or you're ignoring it. I took on simplifying your colour palette and I think it's a stronger design for it. I still offer you feedback on the actual shape of the design being too contemporary, but that's your choice whether you wish to take that on.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

No what he is missing big time is shading. It looks flat. It's not well executed at all, the outline is the same color as the body of the head, what's the tertiary color here? The weird off white in the dark brown and light brown? I don't know if that remotely works for the Seattle demographic in any way shape or form. He needs to study Seattle, there are better ideas than "Seattle Mammoths."

It's boring, the colors don't pop out at you at all, it's the kind of color scheme the Army would love because it's bland and if you jump into a sand dune, you'd be camouflaged. It has to jump out you, it's missing a great deal of "finish."

Do more studying of Mammoth's. There is ample sources out there to use.

The "white out" is a cheap cop out from adding detail. The ears look more alien than Mammoth. It needs work, but not a complete over haul, just re-working details.

Now, you can either get mad at this, or take it as an opportunity to show us up.

Really hope it's the latter.

I always loved these.

Amazing in an era where you know...Hi-Def tv's didn't exist. Look at it, it looks boring. It looks like an instagram filter was applied to it.

 

[Walkingthroughforest]

No what he is missing big time is shading. It looks flat.

It's boring, the colors don't pop out at you at all, it's the kind of color scheme the Army would love because it's bland and if you jump into a sand dune, you'd be camouflaged. It has to jump out you, it's missing a great deal of "finish."

Do more studying of Mammoth's. There is ample sources out there to use.

The "white out" is a cheap cop out from adding detail. The ears look more alien than Mammoth. It needs work, but not a complete over haul, just re-working details.

As a designer, I disagree with you.
The best logos are "flat". It's a large part of what make a design relevant for 40 years as opposed to 5. Look at Paul Rand. Greatest designer of the 20th century and simplicity is the key.

When you start adding detail to design to add detail, 9/10 times you've designed something poorly.

As a fellow artist, I think it's a terrific design that's different from the rest of the NHL and yet can fit into the league. My feedback is to make it less stylized and more simple.

 

[Superpest]

I'm not sure if you've missed my feedback, or you're ignoring it. I took on simplifying your colour palette and I think it's a stronger design for it. I still offer you feedback on the actual shape of the design being too contemporary, but that's your choice whether you wish to take that on.

Sorry I swear I wasn't purposely ignoring you, but I closed my Illustrator for the night as I spend all day on it and need a break at night.

You're right about simplifying the color palette. The shape is a little tricky and I am kind of stuck on it. I've had to settle with what I had.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

As a designer, I disagree with you.
The best logos are "flat". It's a large part of what make a design relevant for 40 years as opposed to 5. Look at Paul Rand. Greatest designer of the 20th century and simplicity is the key.

When you start adding detail to design to add detail, 9/10 times you've designed something poorly.

As a fellow artist, I think it's a terrific design that's different from the rest of the NHL and yet can fit into the league. My feedback is to make it less stylized and more simple.

You miss the point entirely. And Rand, while good and a legend, was a modernist. That's like comparing H&M Clothing to Zegna.

Show me a Paul Rand sports logo and I will give your rant some validity. Anyone can be a graphic designer, but being good at it is different. All of, if not 90% of it, Rand's Identity work is Corporate branding (UPS, IBM, etc). Iconic work in the Corporate industry.

Sports Identity Branding is a different beast.

 

[Gardiner Expressway]

These are awesome.

Thanks for some really cool OC

 

[Eisen]

Does it say anywhere that a potential new owner can't purchase the rights or the junior team and adopt it as well? Because I think they can.

Mammoth is a bad name. It doesn't flow at all for a hockey team name.

Thunderbirds does.

And you need to learn to take criticism better, you aren't going to make everyone happy.

I don't see how it is worse than any other name.

 

[rumrokh]

Now, you can either get mad at this, or take it as an opportunity to show us up.

Most people with art and design skill and experience don't get remotely mad at criticism. That doesn't leave showing you up as the only other option, as he could simply disagree with your feedback or he could fully agree and still not care to churn out more drafts if he hasn't been hired for it. Sometimes for-fun projects only go so far.

 

[Eisen]

No what he is missing big time is shading. It looks flat. It's not well executed at all, the outline is the same color as the body of the head, what's the tertiary color here? The weird off white in the dark brown and light brown? I don't know if that remotely works for the Seattle demographic in any way shape or form. He needs to study Seattle, there are better ideas than "Seattle Mammoths."

It's boring, the colors don't pop out at you at all, it's the kind of color scheme the Army would love because it's bland and if you jump into a sand dune, you'd be camouflaged. It has to jump out you, it's missing a great deal of "finish."

Do more studying of Mammoth's. There is ample sources out there to use.

The "white out" is a cheap cop out from adding detail. The ears look more alien than Mammoth. It needs work, but not a complete over haul, just re-working details.

Now, you can either get mad at this, or take it as an opportunity to show us up.

Really hope it's the latter.



Amazing in an era where you know...Hi-Def tv's didn't exist. Look at it, it looks boring. It looks like an instagram filter was applied to it.

Just talking about the color combination.

 

[Superpest]

No what he is missing big time is shading. It looks flat. It's not well executed at all, the outline is the same color as the body of the head, what's the tertiary color here? The weird off white in the dark brown and light brown? I don't know if that remotely works for the Seattle demographic in any way shape or form. He needs to study Seattle, there are better ideas than "Seattle Mammoths."

It's boring, the colors don't pop out at you at all, it's the kind of color scheme the Army would love because it's bland and if you jump into a sand dune, you'd be camouflaged. It has to jump out you, it's missing a great deal of "finish."

Do more studying of Mammoth's. There is ample sources out there to use.

The "white out" is a cheap cop out from adding detail. The ears look more alien than Mammoth. It needs work, but not a complete over haul, just re-working details.

Now, you can either get mad at this, or take it as an opportunity to show us up.

Really hope it's the latter.

Can you please stop calling me out like that? Not only is it unnecessary but it is also not helping on the topic.

Like I said above, I am done working on it for the night as I've spent far too many hours the past few days on it. I also feel unnecessarily rushed by you. It's very odd.

I am however taking your critique and suggestions into consideration and will revise them tomorrow when I work further on it.

Now please, change your attitude or I will start ignoring you altogether, on purpose this time. I apologize if you felt in any shape or form that I have attacked you somehow, because I haven't nor was it in my intentions. So, sorry.

 

[Walkingthroughforest]

You miss the point entirely. And Rand, while good and a legend, was a modernist. That's like comparing H&M Clothing to Zegna.

I don't think you know what the point is.

As it's being pointed out in this thread, Xamboni is not being paid or commissioned by you for this work. In no way was he being argumentative or shutting down your feedback. I think you need to back off from this conversation.

 

[Superpest]

Also, please note that the original logo was not made by me, as specified in the original post.

I have modified it with permission, and am giving full credit to the original creator.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Can you please stop calling me out like that? Not only is it unnecessary but it is also not helping on the topic.

Like I said above, I am done working on it for the night as I've spent far too many hours the past few days on it. I also feel unnecessarily rushed by you. It's very odd.

I am however taking your critique and suggestions into consideration and will revise them tomorrow when I work further on it.

Now please, change your attitude or I will start ignoring you altogether, on purpose this time. I apologize if you felt in any shape or form that I have attacked you somehow, because I haven't nor was it in my intentions. So, sorry.

That wasn't attacking you, just so you know. Not even a little.

Unless you wanted me to be dishonest and say "Omg, awesome!"

 

[Superpest]

That wasn't attacking you, just so you know. Not even a little.

Unless you wanted me to be dishonest and say "Omg, awesome!"

Sure felt like it. You're being condescending and defensive since the second you posted in this thread.

Honesty is appreciated, as is constructive criticism as well as respect.

 

[Superpest]

Also congratulations, this thread has been derailed and fallen off a cliff.

 

[Halpysback*]

I want the Seamammoths to be a thing so bad. If they were a thing I would buy season tickets. I live in Virginia.

 

[Halpysback*]

also have the Seamammoths sprout tentacles from the back so it merges with a krakenish design

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The logo is fantastic.

There, my goodness.