News: Seattle Kraken Expansion Draft Thread

[darrylsittler27]

If they want to, they can probably put together a playoff team.

They are already better than the Leafs and haven't even picked yet.

 

[Kranix]

Did it.
Bailey-Gourde-Tanev
Namestnikov-Jarnkrok-Compher
Byron-Gambrell-Blais
Shore-Geekie-Hathaway
Ghostisbehere-Butcher
DeMelo-Maatta
Soucy-Brown
Driedger
Hutchinson
60.5M

BLEECCCHHHHHH

 

[jiggy35]

Not a comment on yours in particular, but there is such a thing as too much of a veteran presence. A player like Bean won't develop sitting up in the pressbox all the time. The next Nate Schmidt/William Karlsson/Shea Theodore needs opportunity to become that. Some guys need to be flipped immediately.

I agree… it’s a curious position having 30 players to choose and only 23 roster spots. And there are always too many roster guys for spots available.

I do think however it would be unwise to not pick a higher value player just because they block a young guy. Or to pick mediocre players just to save cap.

Part of the process is to remove value from other franchises in a position of weakness, then redistribute it from a position of power.

 

[Number 57]

Niederreiter - Gourde - Voracek
Zucker - McCann - Bailey
Jarnkrok - Gaudette - Appleton
Ritchie - Gambrell - Blackwell

Giordano - Larsson (sign)
Dunn (sign)- Jensen
Bowey - Fleury

Price
Kahkonen
Driedger

Extra:
F:Fischer. Lizotte, Greer
D: Harrington, MacDonald, Borgen, Cholowski
G: D'Accord

Which better value players would you get? Imo this is a competitive lineup, although it locks you out of UFA and there's a lot of guys that will need to be resigned fast...

Probably not worth it to go with Zucker, Giordano and Price. Zucker is overrated and the other 2 are too old. Of course that's just my opinion. You could save 10M by replacing those 3, leaving you with a lot of space for free agency

 

[HoseEmDown]

Landeskog (8x8 or 8.5 if needed) - Johansen- Tarasenko
Van Reimsdyk - Domi - Bailey
Tanev - McCann - Byron
Grundstrom - Gambrell - Gauthier
Turris, Merkley, Gadjovich

Soucy - DeMelo
Lauzon - Foote
Bean - Borgen
Fluery, Gross

Driedger (3x3.5)
Subban
Daccord

Deal 1- draft Giordano from Calgary, retain 50%, trade to Montreal for 2021 1st + Brook, make Byron Montréal pick.

Deal 2- draft Vanacek from Washington, draft Namestnikov from Detroit, draft Kero from Dallas, trade all 3 to Edmonton for 2021 1st + Samorukov, make Turris Edmonton pick.

 

[abo9]

Probably not worth it to go with Zucker, Giordano and Price. Zucker is overrated and the other 2 are too old. Of course that's just my opinion. You could save 10M by replacing those 3, leaving you with a lot of space for free agency

It's tough to "build a team" without knowing what are the talks for UFA I picked Giordano because the D is thin, but they *could* solve that with free agents for sure.

 

[lilmaxo]

Anaheim – Josh Mahura (RFA)
Arizona – Tyler Pitlick ($1,750,000)
Boston - Connor Clifton ($1,000,000)
Buffalo - Zemgus Girgensons ($2,200,000)
Calgary - Mark Giordano ($6,750,000)
Carolina - Dougie Hamilton (UFA)
Chicago - Nikita Zadorov (RFA)
Colorado - Gabriel Landeskog (UFA)
Columbus – Max Domi ($5,300,000)
Dallas - Adam Mascherin (RFA)
Detroit - Troy Stecher ($1,700,000)
Edmonton - Tyler Benson (RFA)
Florida - Chris Driedger (UFA)
Los Angeles - Carl Grundstrom ($725,000)
Minnesota - Kaapo Kähkönen ($725,000)
Montreal - Cale Fleury (RFA)
Nashville - Calle Jarnkrok ($2,000,000)
New Jersey - Nathan Bastian ($825,000)
New York Islanders – Josh Bailey ($5,000,000)
New York Rangers - Julien Gauthier ($775,000)
Ottawa – Ryan Dzingel (UFA)
Philadelphia - Robert Hagg ($1,600,000)
Pittsburgh – Jason Zucker ($5,500,000)
San Jose – Nicolas Meloche ($750,000)
St. Louis – Vladimir Tarasenko ($7,500,000)
Tampa Bay - Yanni Gourde ($5,166,666)
Toronto – Jared McCann ($2,940,000)
Vancouver - Matthew Highmore ($725,000)
Washington - Vitek Vanecek ($716,667)
Winnipeg – Dylan DeMelo ($3,000,000)

Cap Hit: $56,648,333
Cap Space: $24,851,667

Forwards
Landeskog - Gourde - Tarasenko
Domi – McCann – Bailey
Zucker - Jarnkrok - Dzingel
Grundstrom – Benson - Pitlick
Depth – Girgensons, Bastian, Gauthier, Mascherin, Highmore
Defense
Giordano – Hamilton
Zadorov – DeMelo
Mahura – Stecher
Depth – Clifton, Hagg, Meloche
Goalies
Vanecek
Driedger
Depth - Kähkönen


Opted against Price, he's a solid playoff performer and all but he's 35. Team is weak at center, I think Seattle trades Gio, Zucker and Domi come trade deadline. Also, I was tempted to take Johansen from Nashville just because I think he would do really well besides Tarasenko and Landeskog, Jarnkrok was probably the safer pick.

price is 33 not 35

 

[webersshot]

price is 33 not 35

34 in a few weeks

 

[lilmaxo]

34 in a few weeks

still not 35, his contract ends at 38 years old. There’s a lot of elite G that are making it to 38. Seattle should def pick the best available player.

they could flip him at 40% retention for great assets. Pretty sure he would waive is NMC to a contender

 

[Curufinwe]

still not 35, his contract ends at 38 years old. There’s a lot of elite G that are making it to 38. Seattle should def pick the best available player.

they could flip him at 40% retention for great assets

Luongo and Lundqvist were done being effective by then, and they were more consistent in the early 30s than Price has been

 

[Thallis]

I'm not sure why so many people are convinced Seattle takes Price. I wouldn't.

Biggest name available, puts butts in the seats, huge jersey sales. Being able to construct the team as they want allows them to not really care about that contract, and if he wants to win a Stanley Cup you can probably convince him to waive his NMC again and retain half of his contract for a big package.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Biggest name available, puts butts in the seats, huge jersey sales. Being able to construct the team as they want allows them to not really care about that contract, and if he wants to win a Stanley Cup you can probably convince him to waive his NMC again and retain half of his contract for a big package.

Seattle is not going to have a problem putting butts in the seats. With or without Price.

 

[Soundgarden]

Biggest name available, puts butts in the seats, huge jersey sales. Being able to construct the team as they want allows them to not really care about that contract, and if he wants to win a Stanley Cup you can probably convince him to waive his NMC again and retain half of his contract for a big package.

Butts are going to be in the seats regardless and jerseys are going to be sold regardless. Heck, if you want jersey sales Quick's contract is half of what Price's is.

While Price could give them Fleury-esque stability, he's also coming in at 10M for five more years. I think they should gamble on young guys instead.

 

[lilmaxo]

If you are Francis, do you

Pick price and try to flip him at the deadline with a 3.5-4m retention for solid assets

or

you pick Byron at 3.8

Or

Kulak or fleury which are useless chips

or

pick drouin which is not even sure to ever play hockey in the nhl because of his mental health situation?

in my opinion, the choice is kinda easy

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

If you are Francis, do you

Pick price and try to flip him at the deadline with a 3.5-4m retention for solid assets

or

you pick Byron at 3.8

Or

Kulak or fleury which are useless chips

or

pick drouin which is not even sure to ever play hockey in the nhl because of his mental health situation?

in my opinion, the choice is kinda easy

I have us picking Fleury. Though Kulak is also an option. Our need at the G position is not going to be that big given Driedger, Vanecek and Kahkonen are all legit options for a 1A/1B setup.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Biggest name available, puts butts in the seats, huge jersey sales. Being able to construct the team as they want allows them to not really care about that contract, and if he wants to win a Stanley Cup you can probably convince him to waive his NMC again and retain half of his contract for a big package.

Doesn’t Price have a Native Canadian background as well? For a Pacific NW team that is openly marketing diversity, it’s a narrative that will play well.

 

[lilmaxo]

I have us picking Fleury. Though Kulak is also an option. Our need at the G position is not going to be that big given Driedger, Vanecek and Kahkonen are all legit options for a 1A/1B setup.

fleury isnt gonna give you guys anything compared to flipping a price imo

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

fleury isnt gonna give you guys anything compared to flipping a price imo

Flipping Price? He has an NMC and a prohibitive contract.

 

[cwede]

If you are Francis, do you

Pick price and try to flip him at the deadline with a 3.5-4m retention for solid assets

or

you pick Byron at 3.8

Or

Kulak or fleury which are useless chips

or

pick drouin which is not even sure to ever play hockey in the nhl because of his mental health situation?

in my opinion, the choice is kinda easy

Flipping Price not so easy, his No-Move resumes after ED

 

[lilmaxo]

I know, but i think he would waive it if it’s to a contender.

Im pretty sure he wants a cup too

 

[Garo]

I wish they'd pick Fleury, I like the guy and I'd rather they'd pick Drouin obviously but it's a pick that does absolutely nothing for you - and isn't even that great for the AHL team given his struggles there - while not harming us at all.

 

[HostileCapSpace]

What's the point for the Blues to expose Tarasenko? Don't tell me there isn't at least one team that would've given them at least a 7th rd pick.

Even if it's at 50% salary retained, the contract expires in 2 years.

They want the contract gone, and if you trade him elsewhere then Seattle picks another player so now you have two players gone instead of just one. It's all fine and good to trade a player away to not lose him for nothing, but then Seattle just picks the next "best/valuable" one.

 

[Thallis]

Flipping Price? He has an NMC and a prohibitive contract.

Contract can be retained and if he waived his NMC once, I don't see why he wouldn't again. For some reason people are really pushing this "he cannot be traded because of his NMC" narrative when we really have no idea what he's willing to do. Nobody imagined Price could be available until he was.

 

[HostileCapSpace]

Seattle is not going to have a problem putting butts in the seats. With or without Price.

And jerseys sell themselves easy with a new franchise.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Seattle is going to have issues with the centers available. Pretty poor group and UFAs aren't much better.

My picks would be:

Anahiem	Josh Mahura	LD
Arizona	Lane Pederson	C
Boston	Connor Clifton	RD
Buffalo	Collin Miller	RD
Calgary	Mark Giordano	LD
Carolina	Nino Niederreter	RW
Chicago	Adam Gaudette	C
Colorado	Joonas Donskoi	RW
Columbus	Max Domi	LW
Dallas	Ben Gleason	LD
Detroit	Kaden Fulcher	G
Edmonton	Tyler Benson	LW
Florida	Chris Dreiger	G
LA	Carl Grundstrom	RW
Minnesota	Carson Soucy	LD
Montreal	Lukas Vejdemo	C
Nashville	Colton Sissons	C
New Jersey	Nathan Bastian	RW
NYI	Josh Bailey	RW
NYR	Colin Blackwell	C
Ottawa	Josh Brown	RD
Philadelphia	Jakub Voracek	RW/LW
Pittsburgh	Brandon Tanev	LW
San Jose	Dylan Gambrell	C
St Louis	Vince Dunn	LD
Tampa	Cal Foote	RD
Toronto	Jared McCann	C
Vancouver	Brayden Holtby	G
Washington	Axel Jonsson-Fjallby	LW
Winnipeg	Mason Appleton	C

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