Seattle Expansion Draft
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If our roster remains the same, i.e. all UFAs are resigned (which they won't but they won't be protected or picked so it doesn't matter), my understanding of the 1st or 2nd year professional rules means the following players will be eligible:
Forwards:
Kopitar
Kempe
Iaffalo
Amadio
Wagner
Moore
Frk
Brown
Carter
Lewis
AHL:
Grundstrom
Schaller
Rempal
Eyssimont
Morrison
Rymsha
Imama
Luff
D:
Doughty
Walker
Roy
MacDermid
Hutton
Ryan
AHL:
Ladue
Clague
Strand
Reddekop
Brickley
G:
Quick
Petersen
Kehler
Poulin
The following players will be exempt:
Lizotte
Vilardi
Prokhorkin
Anderson
Kupari
Fagemo
Thomas
Dudas
Phillips
Sodergan
JAD
Durzi
Bjornfot
Moverare
Villalta
All currently unsigned prospects (Turcotte, Kaliyev)
Bolded are the ones I think are guaranteed to be protected if they're still on the roster. So you can either protect 1 more Dman or 3 more forwards. Or you can swap Grundstrom if he disappoints next season while Wagner/Amadio break out or something. For me, it really comes down to whether or not Clague can show that he's worth protecting over 3 more forwards.
If I have erroneously exempted or non-exempted a player, feel free to correct me.
Forwards:
Kopitar
Kempe
Iaffalo
Amadio
Wagner
Moore
Frk
Brown
Carter
Lewis
AHL:
Grundstrom
Schaller
Rempal
Eyssimont
Morrison
Rymsha
Imama
Luff
D:
Doughty
Walker
Roy
MacDermid
Hutton
Ryan
AHL:
Ladue
Clague
Strand
Reddekop
Brickley
G:
Quick
Petersen
Kehler
Poulin
The following players will be exempt:
Lizotte
Vilardi
Prokhorkin
Anderson
Kupari
Fagemo
Thomas
Dudas
Phillips
Sodergan
JAD
Durzi
Bjornfot
Moverare
Villalta
All currently unsigned prospects (Turcotte, Kaliyev)
Bolded are the ones I think are guaranteed to be protected if they're still on the roster. So you can either protect 1 more Dman or 3 more forwards. Or you can swap Grundstrom if he disappoints next season while Wagner/Amadio break out or something. For me, it really comes down to whether or not Clague can show that he's worth protecting over 3 more forwards.
If I have erroneously exempted or non-exempted a player, feel free to correct me.
King'sPawn
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Welcome to the board!
Not sure if you knew, but CapFriendly has a simulator where you can simulate the draft.
Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
So, that being said, here are the players I'd choose if the draft happened today.
Kopitar
Brown
Iafallo
Kempe
Grundstrom
Lizotte
Frk
Doughty
Walker
Roy
Petersen
Not sure who all the other teams would expose, but that would leave a wide spectrum of choices, such as Quick, Carter, Amadio, Clague, MacDermid, etc.
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I believe Lizotte is exempt. CapFriendly doesn't factor in that he only played 1 professional game last year and therefore it didn't count against him the first/second year pro category.
The nice things about having such a poor team is not having to worry about the expansions draft. In fact we might even benefit from it because other teams' asset management
KopitarFAN
Reno Sucks!
Operating on this happening tomorrow, obviously things will change. This is the main reason they will sign a veteran defenseman, to fill that requirement. The only reason they might want keep Carter or Brown is the salary floor, the last one is Iafallo, unless they are prepared to pay $4M+ to a 3rd line player, and yes he is a 3rd line player in what they envision their long-term roster being, it might be in their best interest to part ways this summer.
This is all we know for now:
Kopitar
Doughty
Walker
Roy
Petersen
Maybe add Clague depending on what happens next season.
This is all we know for now:
Kopitar
Doughty
Walker
Roy
Petersen
Maybe add Clague depending on what happens next season.
Not sure you need to worry about Frk, he's a barely above league minimum filler guy. Don't get me wrong, I like him but I don't think I'd worry about protecting him. Then again, who else is there?
kovacro
Uvijek Vjerni
The Kings are in a great position for the expansion draft...
Kopitar
Doughty
Petersen
are the only locks..
We might trade one of
Kempe
Iafallo
to entice Seattle to take a Carter, Quick or Brown.. they only have what 1 season left, Quick would have 2-3 so he might not be movable... I expect Blake to expose those big money guys to help Seattle reach the floor and we might overpay for some players as well...
Kopitar
Doughty
Petersen
are the only locks..
We might trade one of
Kempe
Iafallo
to entice Seattle to take a Carter, Quick or Brown.. they only have what 1 season left, Quick would have 2-3 so he might not be movable... I expect Blake to expose those big money guys to help Seattle reach the floor and we might overpay for some players as well...
If they trade Kempe or Iafallo to entice Seattle to take, Carter, Quick or Brown, that's just plain idiotic.
A. they aren't holding anyone back
B. We have the cap room
C. That's HORRIBLE asset management.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
I didn't see anything on cap friendly.
It looks like Doughty and Kopitar has NMC and Brown has a modified NTC and that's all folks
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You're assuming about as much as I am. There would obviously be many factors involved and it could be a legitimate trade involving other pieces. With that said, no one knows what can happen over the course of a year, does Turcotte sign and have a dominant AHL debut? does Grundstrom provide much needed middle 6 production? Does Prokhorkin return? Do we win the Lafreniere sweepstakes? Do Fagemo, Kupari, Dudas or Kaliyev pro to be ready? these are all the factors you should consider.
As for our cap space, well we dont know what the plan is? if we keep playing well the rest of this season do Blake, TMac and Co feel like the team should be rewarded by signing some veteran guys to help push the team forward? I fully expect Blake to overpay for some UFA production ala DL to help this team push forward while the kids continue to develop
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It's just poor asset management, no matter how you spin it. You would not move key younger pieces of the team going forward to entice them to take Carter or Brown with one NHL season left. You might throw in a draft pick for Quick with 2 seasons left (since that quantity is unknown, but not an NHL player). I could see that 2nd round pick from STL being in play for instance or the 3rd round pick from TOR.
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Not to compare him to Kovalchuk, but a sniper who is starting to put up good numbers while making near league-minimum can be decent value, especially if the cost to acquire is free.
As you said, there's not really anyone else who really needs protection that is a high danger of loss. Clague could be, but we'll have a better idea next season.
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It's still early as players in the organization may change, but I see them going 8 F/D instead of 7/3 F/D as of now.
Protected
Kopitar
Iafallo
Kempe
Grundstrom
Doughty (required)
Roy
Walker
Clague
Petersen
This may change if they sign a UFA LHD that they feel is part of the building block, and Clague and Grundstrom's status may have to do with their progress. Grundstrom is not wavier-exempt next season, so hopefully he's playing full-time.
Protected
Kopitar
Iafallo
Kempe
Grundstrom
Doughty (required)
Roy
Walker
Clague
Petersen
This may change if they sign a UFA LHD that they feel is part of the building block, and Clague and Grundstrom's status may have to do with their progress. Grundstrom is not wavier-exempt next season, so hopefully he's playing full-time.
At the rate players are getting paid and with his uptick in production, Iafallo could become a $4-$5 mill per player. Not sure i'd pay that, so why not get involved in trades with Seattle and maybe a 3rd team and get some value. Just because I suggested moving a Iafallo or Kempe to facilitate the moving of a J.Quick, doesnt mean that it would be a one sided trade. Just look at what Vegas did, maybe they like the idea of taking a Quick and we throw in a Iafallo/Kempe and get a player we normally wont have been able to attract? I'm just keeping all possibilities on the table
Bringing up Vegas doesn't help your argument, they played it great, but not a single team they dealt with, did good with those deals.....
Regardless if you think Iafallo is going to get 4-5 million, trading him to entice someone to take Carter who only has 2 years left, is mind blowingly bad, yea, let's trade Iafallo who is 24 (has what, 6-7 years left at a solid place) to get a rid of a guy who is gone in 2 years.
I see entice was the wrong word to use since I think Seattle will seriously consider taking Quick anyways.
Iafallo is 26YO and will be 27Yo by years end so i'd seriously consider cashing in..
I was going to pivot to Kempe but kept with Iafallo lol.....I think they will take Quick as well, not sure anyone else on the roster would be worth anything to them, as it stands now....
But go back and look at the trades teams made to Vegas, they all benefited Vegas, teams didn't get anything from those deals, at all.
Yeah, I think it was more to do with so many GMs not having much familiarity with an expansion draft and the desire to shed salary.. I'd love to add a William Karlsson type via a 3 team trade or something of the sort.. I think heading into the expansion draft, we're in a great place to make some big moves.. Maybe we become the team a TBL talks to about moving one of their players instead of losing him for nothing?
Legionnaire
Help On The Way
I would. He's earned the right to decide his destiny after all he has done for this franchise.
We have a William Karlsson type player in Kempe, everyone thought CBS made a mistake because they couldn't tell that his 27% shooting percentage the 1st year in Vegas was an anomaly that can't be maintained....
I think we are in a great spot REGARDLESS of the expansion draft, the three "anchors" Quick, Carter, Brown, are still valuable, play may have deteriorated but what they have to teach off the ice, you want to keep that in your locker room, none of the three have shown themselves to be malcontents etc....
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We don't need to though, Brown will be 36 with 1 year left on his deal. There's no reason for Seattle to pick him over the younger pieces that we'll have exposed. If they want veteran presence or leadership they'll have opportunities to pick that up July 1st. Amadio, Wagner, MacDermid etc. would be much more valuable to the franchise because the expansion draft's the best way for them to pick up 23-27 year old players.
