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Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

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The defense played admirably all things considered. I’d fire Dorsey tomorrow and see if Brady has the juice to turn the season around, even if Dorsey isn’t the problem. Need something.

That said, the issues with the defense (old and injured) are structural in nature. We don’t get to chalk them up to bad luck. It’s the oldest defense in the nfl. Injuries and declining play are to be expected. They need to blow it up and start over in the off-season. If you’re going to be mediocre, at least be young, cheap, and mediocre.
 
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Husko said:
The defense played admirably all things considered. I’d fire Dorsey tomorrow and see if Brady has the juice to turn the season around, even if Dorsey isn’t the problem. Need something.
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I have never wanted Dorsey fired until now. Just for the sake of changing things up and the fact the offense has been stagnant and plagued with r he same issues since he took over


Husko said:
That said, the issues with the defense (old and injured) are structural in nature. We don’t get to chalk them up to bad luck. It’s the oldest defense in the nfl. Injuries and declining play are to be expected. They need to blow it up and start over in the off-season. If you’re going to be mediocre, at least be young, cheap, and mediocre.
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I agree with this too. I like how they re-tooled the offense this past offseason. I’d do the same with the defense. Goodbye Hyde, poyer, white, Lawson, Phillips, settle, Dodson, ford, rapp
 
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enthusiast said:
The qb isn’t going to last forever. Move on from this staff and clap for them if they find success elsewhere.
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Pegula will not fire the boy scouts until the wheels are off or they quit first.

Production from your #2 receiver tonight, 0-0-0
 
ValJamesDuex said:
The coach tried to change his teams success and dna because of overthinking and ego. This is where we are in the end without the excuses.
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Mike Ehrmantraut’s one speech to Walt in Breaking Bad—specifically, the “it all ran like clockwork…it was perfect. But no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man”—comes to mind with regards to McD’s vision for the offense. Putting sugar in the gas tank of a Ferrari.

That being said, it also seems like Josh is just mentally off a bit in terms of how often he’s failed to see open guys and/or seen them and just not thrown the ball. Not sure what the fix is there for the first part of the issue, or if it’s as simple as the guys who are getting open are his later reads and he’s not having enough time to find them
 
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ValJamesDuex said:
We're not making the playoffs man with these injuries, our conference record, and the schedule
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My point is more that sean turned around the organization culturally. Got us to the playoffs but he’s not the guy to win us a championship.

It took me too this year to figure that out but we need to go all in on offense and that demands a head coach with offensive background. I’d love someone from the Shanahan tree. Imagine have McDaniels with Josh right now.
 
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Josh at the podium: "We have to play complimentary football"
we are doomed

SabresFan26 said:
My point is more that sean turned around the organization culturally. Got us to the playoffs but he’s not the guy to win us a championship.

It took me too this year to figure that out but we need to go all in on offense and that demands a head coach with offensive background. I’d love someone from the Shanahan tree. Imagine have McDaniels with Josh right now.
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very well articulated
 
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Dirty Dog said:
I have never wanted Dorsey fired until now. Just for the sake of changing things up and the fact the offense has been stagnant and plagued with r he same issues since he took over




I agree with this too. I like how they re-tooled the offense this past offseason. I’d do the same with the defense. Goodbye Hyde, poyer, white, Lawson, Phillips, settle, Dodson, ford, rapp
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Yup that’s my list as well. Have to get younger, even if it hurts in the short term
 
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I’m generally annoyed at this game. For all the issues, it was (amazing) punch out on Kincaid that was the difference. -2 in turnovers against a good team will almost always be a L.

To say next week is a must win is an understatement. And for the love of god I hope none of these injuries are long term.
 
It probably wouldn’t have made a difference on the last play, but if Josh Dobbs can have to learn his new team’s cadences on the bench during a game and put up 31 points, you can do better than bringing in Josh Norman’s corpse as the 3rd outside CB because “he knows the system”
 
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stokes84 said:
This is what bothers me. They’ve cut his balls off. He used to have that fire, and they’ve taken it out of him. He’s a McDermott clone now.
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It seems like Diggs is the only guy with any juice on the sideline any more. The whole “don’t get too high or too low” thing sounds good in theory, but taking it as far as McD wants seems to have produced lethargy
 
Well, they kept it closer than I thought they would. Bengals looked unstoppable after their first 2 drives. Good to see the D somewhat lock it down the rest of the way.

Not sure this is a playoff team. The offense is just wildly too inconsistent.
 
ValJamesDuex said:
We're not making the playoffs man with these injuries, our conference record, and the schedule
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You win the next 2 that is 7-4.

That means you go 3-3 vs Philadelphia, KC, Dallas, New England, Miami, and LAC and that is 10-7. The afc north are going to knock each other around a bit. 10 wins should get you in.

But you gotta start stringing wins and get some bodies back on D.
 
Ken Dorsey has had 27 games at O Coordinator, how many of those have felt good to you other than the Miami game this season ?

kirby11 said:
It seems like Diggs is the only guy with any juice on the sideline any more. The whole “don’t get too high or too low” thing sounds good in theory, but taking it as far as McD wants seems to have produced lethargy
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they look like there on quaaludes
 
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