DaPhazz
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Beniers is 22 and putting up 40+ pt seasons on a team with literally no offensive talent in the top 9.
And that's exactly why I wouldnt trade Guhle for him.
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In the meantime, feel free to join our Discord ServerBeniers is 22 and putting up 40+ pt seasons on a team with literally no offensive talent in the top 9.
I agree with you except for Laine. Im not so sure he survives trade deadline day next yearNo interest from this Habs fan. We are not interested in subtracting from our core to add to our core.
Up front our projected core is;
Suzuki
Slaf
Caufield
Laine
Demidov
On the back end;
Hutson
Reinbacher
Guhle
These 8 players are clearly who we are building around. No interest in trading any of them, unless it is for a clearly better player. Beniers is not that. That would be lateral. Which does nothing for us.
In terms of PPG this year Beniers is behind Stephensen,Schwartz, Wright, McCann, Bjorkstrand (gone), Kakko, Eberle, Montour (D), Dunn (D).
He technically wouldn’t be in your top 9 in terms of production despite being given PP1 and on average 20 minutes a night.
At what point do the player start to get some blame for his lack of production?
And that's exactly why I wouldnt trade Guhle for him.
Ritchie a top 10 prospect in the league ? Really ? No.Colorado just gave up a first and probably a top ten prospect in the league in Ritchie for UFA Brock Nelson. Teams don’t trade young Cs unless there is a legit premium asset coming back.
Laine shouldn't be there at all.No interest from this Habs fan. We are not interested in subtracting from our core to add to our core.
Up front our projected core is;
Suzuki
Slaf
Caufield
Laine
Demidov
On the back end;
Hutson
Reinbacher
Guhle
These 8 players are clearly who we are building around. No interest in trading any of them, unless it is for a clearly better player. Beniers is not that. That would be lateral. Which does nothing for us.
Nah... If that's your assessment, nuff said about your "knowledge" lol
Seattle says noTo Chicago:
-Matty Beniers
To Seattle:
-Kevin Korchinski
-2025 Toronto 1st round pick
- he's not playing right now, but yes, when he has been healthy, his game is firmly top pairing level. He is the Habs #1 dman at this stage, so it's not just "upside", it's actual level of play(although Hutson may soon change that).Your homerism is very strong here.
Guhle may have potential #1 upside. That’s a claim I take no issue with. But he’s in no way playing today at the level of a top 20 D in the entire league. He’s currently more akin to a good #3
You changed top 20D, to top 20 LD lol.- he's not playing right now, but yes, when he has been healthy, his game is firmly top pairing level. He is the Habs #1 dman at this stage, so it's not just "upside", it's actual level of play(although Hutson may soon change that).
- Top 20 LHD is not the same as top 20D. I would agree that he hasn't played at a top 20 overall D level with anywhere near the consistency to be considered in that group... But he certainly has had stretched of play that would put him there, and if he can string together a few healthy seasons, I won't be surprised at all if he reaches that level.
- Name 20 LHD that you consider to be performing at a higher level this season.
I would not trade Demidov too, but to call Beniers a 40pts center is a bit stupid, like those calling Slaf a 40pts players on the main board. Both have more in them, they are still young.For a 40 point centre ?
Yeah, the delusion is strong with this one
injury history? he cut his leg with his own skate...there is no physiological weakness involved...skate...sharp...cuts...heals.
Nope, just tried to further clarify.You changed top 20D, to top 20 LD lol.
Healthy, Guhle has played at the level of a top 20 #1dman.
- he's not playing right now, but yes, when he has been healthy, his game is firmly top pairing level. He is the Habs #1 dman at this stage, so it's not just "upside", it's actual level of play(although Hutson may soon change that).
- Top 20 LHD is not the same as top 20D. I would agree that he hasn't played at a top 20 overall D level with anywhere near the consistency to be considered in that group... But he certainly has had stretched of play that would put him there, and if he can string together a few healthy seasons, I won't be surprised at all if he reaches that level.
- Name 20 LHD that you consider to be performing at a higher level this season.
Habs fans are just saying we don’t want him at the expense of Guhle and no one said Beniers is terrible but it’s true that he hasn’t played at the level of a top 6 for the last two years. Those are just factsNever change Habs fans, never change.
Who does this make sense for? Montreal exclusively. And here are fifty reasons why the player we want is actually terrible and we're doing you a favor by taking him.
Slaf has 43 so far this year and put up 50 last year. Calling him a 40 point player would be like calling Beniers a 30 points centerI would not trade Demidov too, but to call Beniers a 40pts center is a bit stupid, like those calling Slaf a 40pts players on the main board. Both have more in them, they are still young.
Yep, that’s concerning regarding Guhle. Especially since it took ~ a full year after his cut for Landeskog to start seeing real issues with his knee. It’s something Habs management (and Guhle himself) are probably really worried about right nowHopefully it's not as serious for Guhle, but getting cut above the knee with a skate is what led to Landeskog missing the last 3 seasons.
To Chicago:
-Matty Beniers
To Seattle:
-Kevin Korchinski
-2025 Toronto 1st round pick
Does Guhle have the offensive production to be considered a #1D? Not trying to discredit him as I know he’s a stud, but I don’t know it if I see the offensive upside to be considered a #1D
Probably not to become an elite, surefire #1 as off the top of my head the only guy there without the offense is Slavin, maybe Forsling. I think a good comp for Guhle down the line will be Ekholm who I'd say is a more a low end #1 or top of the league #2Does Guhle have the offensive production to be considered a #1D? Not trying to discredit him as I know he’s a stud, but I don’t know it if I see the offensive upside to be considered a #1D
So he's about to score 20 points in 11 games?Beniers is what Suzuki was.
Absolutely ridiculous reaction from Habs fans regarding this trade, but not surprising.